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Koreans in China population is very outdated. The year 2009??? Wikipedia still using outdated numbers and outdated 7-8 years ago facts and figures. Update the information ASAP.
6 Million Chinese travel to South Korea every year. Are you really sure 2009 Koreans in China population is correct. I would be surprised if actual population is about 30 Million or above. Can you provide correct population status??? The year 2009 ( 8 years ago). — Preceding
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HISTORY SECTION NEED MAJOR IMPROVEMENT ON FACTS!!!!: KOREAN WOMAN WERE SENT AS SLAVES DURING YUAN PERIOD??? KOREANS ALREADY HAD ESTABLISHED STATE KORGURYO AND BALHAE KINGDOM IN MANCHURIA/ NORTH EAST STATE. EXPRESSION " NORTHERNER"?????? KOREANS DO NOT USE THIS EXPRESSION. THE PERSON MUST BE TAIWAN CHINESE!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE CORRECT MISINFORMED HISTORY SECTION ON KOREANS IN CHINA. FIRST TWO PARAGRAPH IS ALL WRONG!!!!!!!! KOREANS HAVE BEEN LIVING IN MANCHURIA FOR CENTURIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!— Preceding
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We should probably change the title of this article. "Chaoxianzu" is the Chinese word for "
Korean people", i.e. ethnic Koreans living Korea, China, or elsewhere. Saying "Chaoxianzu Korean" is like saying "Etnia coreana Korean" to mean Latin Americans of Korean descent. Nevertheless, this is a nice little article (thanks, Yuje), so we don't need to merge it. Maybe we could move it to
Koreans in China or
Korean Chinese, along the lines of
Korean American? -
Nat Krause(
Talk!)
01:49, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
Choaxinzu ( means Koreans). Chinese describe all Koreans from Korean Peninsula ( Choaxinzu).
Here are the options I can think of
Any other ideas? - Nat Krause( Talk!) 22:08, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
Actually, I just realised there is a precedence for naming an article like this - Zainichi Korean. So maybe Chaoxianzu Korean? I'm not sure anymore. --- Hong Qi Gong 16:50, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm not so sure the Chinese XYZ example is a good example for this article. Firstly, the Chinese in the US, Canada, maybe Australia are the only ones that use Chinese XYZ. Almost everybody else use XYZ Chinese. Which means that if anything, XYZ Chinese would be a better example (so the article would be named Chinese Korean).
Secondly, this XYZ Chinese convention is also used by academia. There has been plenty of academic studies on the Overseas Chinese, and XYZ Chinese seems to be the commonly used term, as opposed to Chinese XYZ. To the best of my knowledge at least, there hasn't been as much academic studies done on Overseas Koreans, and I'm not aware of any naming convention for them. --- Hong Qi Gong 01:53, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
So can we get a concise idea of what everyone prefers to name this article? I like either "Ethnic Koreans in China" or "Chaoxianzu" (like how " Zainichi Korean" is named, with the Japanese term, whereas "Chaoxianzu" is a Chinese term used by the government). --- Hong Qi Gong 19:44, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
In Chinese Chaoxian means "Chosun" old Korean Kingdom or Dynasty. The word "Zu" means people. Choxianzu means " Chosun people". Chinese called Koreans Chaoxian.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Typeking ( talk • contribs) 2007-05-27 01:12:27
"Bei Han" and "Chao Xian" are both everyday Chinese words for North Korea. "Nan Han" and "Han Guo" are used for South Korea. But in some cases, "Chao Xian" can also be the whole Korea. Indeed, "ChaoXian Zu" is one of 56 ethnics in China. They are chinese and "maybe or not" from Korea. Liuxch ( talk) 01:14, 27 October 2011 (UTC)LiuXCH
Since one editor expressed his/her concern that some of the information in this article may be inaccurate, let's go over them then. Krnc, would you list which sections you have concerns with, the nature of the inaccuracy, and your sources justifying this? I don't mind correcting inaccurate information, but entire sections, such as the information on population statistics, simply just got blanked. -- Yuje 20:57, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Korean Chinese doesn't need to live in Yanbian to be recognized as one of the China's ethnic minority. Many other ethnic minorities in China don't have automonous regions. Manchu's Qing didn't rule Joseon Korea directly, not mention enslavement. The Japanese didn't migrate Koreans in the beging years of Manchukou. There were no identification system in China before 1958. It is quite absurd for you to say those Koreans were granted citizenship in 1957. There are only less than 2 million Korean Chinese, vast majority of who live in China. They don't need a world wide population distribution in the article. Illegal immigration is a matter of different nature.
The discrimation thing you want to add should be added to the South Korean people page. Since South Korea is a small country, it doesn't welcome foreigners and returned Koreans. Wiki is not a place for some South Korean ethnic extremests to attack possible potential immigrants.
Not necessarily "inaccurate" information, per se, but it strikes me that the information about "historical" Koreans in China should be assigned elsewhere. The currently recognized ethnic Koreans in China have no long historical roots: as the article itself notes, they are mostly 19th or 20th century arrivals. The historical Koreans, assuming they can be considered "Koreans" in the modern sense at all, have all disappeared into history. 76.171.166.184 ( talk) 20:02, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
"Korean Chinese are ethnic Koreans living in the People's Republic of China."
This phrase is inaccurate and has been modified. Korean Chinese are ethnic Koreans with PRC citizenship (Chinese citizenship), they consider themselves Chinese first (中国人), and the vast majority today were born in China. Western media would call them Chinese also. The ethnic Korean Cui Jian is a Chinese rocker, not a "Korean" rocker. Some Korean Chinese do not even live in the PRC, such as the tens of thousands of Korean Chinese living in South Korea, but they are still considered Korean Chinese. Whereas South Korean citizens living in the PRC do not consider themselves Korean Chinese. 128.135.96.213 19:26, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I've moved the article. --- Hong Qi Gong 19:07, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
I don't know how many ethnic Koreans in China actually speak Korean and/or Mandarin. But one thing for sure, Mandarin is taught in schools all across China, so at the very least, most of them do speak it. I say "most", and not "all" here because there is the matter of refugees/illegal immigrants from North Korea, who I assume would not speak Mandarin. But it is questionable whether or not they should be considered a part of Chaoxianzu.
I know that Korean is allowed to be used in government in autonomous regions like Yanbian, but is it taught in schools in these regions? Does anybody know? --- Hong Qi Gong 19:05, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
On the surface, at least to me personally, it seems kind of disingenuous to leave no mention in this article of North Korean defectors. But I don't really know how much interactions they have with the ethnic Korean minorities in China, so may be it's irrelevant to mention them. If I had to take a wild guess though, I would think that many of them have blended in with the ethnic Korean population in northeast China. Anybody have sources that discuss this? Hong Qi Gong ( Talk - Contribs) 20:16, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
I agree. With Han Chinese already outnumbering the "legal" Koreans even in Yanbian, and with a steady trickle of refugees crossing the rivers, the latter perhaps constitute an important group not only in the area's demographic makeup by their sheer numbers, but also in the local economy. I'd guess a number of businesses take advantage of their status as illegals; other refugees perhaps work as smugglers or escape agents. Those that cannot speak enough Chinese to pass as natives probably have no choice. Anything on social and economic relations between the three groups (Han, natives, refugees) would be nice to have in the article. Wikipeditor 02:27, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
This is a trivia subject. I've moved these information to trivia section. It is not what this article is meant for. They shouldn't be listed in the intro. Rrcn 03:09, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
cab 03:19, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
The intro definitely should define the topic, which refers to Koreans who are Chinese citizens. North Korean refugees are only relevant information. They should be in Trivia section. Rrcn 03:39, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
Korean Chinese is Chinese citizen and has no Korean nationality, if they acquire Korean nationality then they will lose Chinese citizenship.
There are many ethnic Chinese oversea, can all topics related to oversea Chinese groups are in WikiProject China?
Also, NK defectors should not be counted as this topic! They are temporarily refugee! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.77.64.117 ( talk • contribs) 14:46, 27 February 2007
Were Li Chengliang and his children actually ethnic Koreans? I remember reading before that Li Chengliang had fourth or fifth generation Korean ancestry, so it's possible that he might be of mixed Chinese and Korean descent instead of an ethnic Korean. -- Yuje 06:45, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Seems a bit silly to me to include historic persons with questions over their heritage (e.g. Gao Xianzhi and Li Chengliang) in this category. Their descendants in China, should there be any, have long become assimiliated. I propose that only those with relatively recent, definitely clearly identifiable heritage be kept under this category. H27kim 20:25, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
For dedicated editors of this page: The "Related Groups" info was removed from all {{ Infobox Ethnic group}} infoboxes. Comments may be left on the Ethnic groups talk page. Ling.Nut 16:40, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Added Kim Mi-ah, CCTV singing contest winner.--Korsentry 04:25, 27 May 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by KoreanSentry ( talk • contribs)
It is horribly written (in terms of language use), and there seems to be elements of original research, drawing illogical conclusions from citations by slippery slope. Please correct as soon as possible. 81.98.138.93 ( talk) 16:08, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
Like most ethnic group, Korean doesn't have a plural in English dictionary. In Merriam Webster, Korean, is defined as native of Korea. There's no entry of Koreans. Likewise, there's no plural of Indian(s), Chinese (Chineses) Japanese(Japaneses) etc. Therefore, to move Koreans in China to Korean in China, which is more grammatically safe and ethnically acceptable, shouldn't cost much or hurt anybody's feeling, I hope. Clari 2010 ( talk) 14:26, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
In China, it's Chosen. see http://mz.china.com.cn/?action-viewnews-itemid-4643 -- 刻意(Kèyì) 09:16, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
Many Korean women from China marry South Korean men.
Rajmaan ( talk) 23:10, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
In the Yuan dynasty, Koreans were included along with Northern Chinese, Khitan and Jurchen in the third class, as "Han ren".
http://www.academia.edu/7542628/The_Semu_ren_in_the_Yuan_Empire_-_who_were_they
http://books.google.com/books?id=sNpD5UKmkswC&pg=PA247#v=onepage&q&f=false
Semu men would marry Korean women.
Title Empire's Twilight: Northeast Asia Under the Mongols Volume 68 of Harvard-Yenching Institute monograph series, Harvard Yenching Institute (Cambridge, Mass.), ISSN 0073-084X Volume 68 of Monograph series: Harvard Yenching Institute Author David M. Robinson Edition illustrated Publisher Harvard University Press, 2009 ISBN 0674036085, 9780674036086 Length 439 pages
A rich merchant from the Ma'bar Sultanate, Abu Ali, was associated closely with the Ma'bar royal family. After falling out with them, he fled to Yuan dynasty China and was granted an official job and a Korean woman as his wife by the Mongol Emperor.
http://books.google.com/books?id=GSA_AaRdgioC&pg=PA138#v=onepage&q&f=false
Page 315
http://www2.ihp.sinica.edu.tw/file/1445ZBWAkRi.pdf
Korean servants
http://books.google.com/books?id=ZSNMGosP0cAC&pg=PA35#v=onepage&q&f=false
Page 63
Tang dynasty
http://books.google.com/books?id=emPuDu97qbkC&pg=PA39#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=9Z7cZ77SqEQC&pg=PA44#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=9Z7cZ77SqEQC&pg=PA57#v=onepage&q&f=false
04:41, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
Koreans in China emphasize that their being in China began in the 19th century when they migrated from Korea to China, and that they are not remnants of Goguryeo or Gojoseon.
http://web.stanford.edu/group/sjeaa/journal51/korea2.pdf
Rajmaan ( talk) 20:36, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
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Koreans in China population is very outdated. The year 2009??? Wikipedia still using outdated numbers and outdated 7-8 years ago facts and figures. Update the information ASAP.
6 Million Chinese travel to South Korea every year. Are you really sure 2009 Koreans in China population is correct. I would be surprised if actual population is about 30 Million or above. Can you provide correct population status??? The year 2009 ( 8 years ago). — Preceding
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In4o2Read (
talk •
contribs)
08:18, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
HISTORY SECTION NEED MAJOR IMPROVEMENT ON FACTS!!!!: KOREAN WOMAN WERE SENT AS SLAVES DURING YUAN PERIOD??? KOREANS ALREADY HAD ESTABLISHED STATE KORGURYO AND BALHAE KINGDOM IN MANCHURIA/ NORTH EAST STATE. EXPRESSION " NORTHERNER"?????? KOREANS DO NOT USE THIS EXPRESSION. THE PERSON MUST BE TAIWAN CHINESE!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE CORRECT MISINFORMED HISTORY SECTION ON KOREANS IN CHINA. FIRST TWO PARAGRAPH IS ALL WRONG!!!!!!!! KOREANS HAVE BEEN LIVING IN MANCHURIA FOR CENTURIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!— Preceding
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KoreanMSN (
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contribs) 20:07, 7 May 2016
We should probably change the title of this article. "Chaoxianzu" is the Chinese word for "
Korean people", i.e. ethnic Koreans living Korea, China, or elsewhere. Saying "Chaoxianzu Korean" is like saying "Etnia coreana Korean" to mean Latin Americans of Korean descent. Nevertheless, this is a nice little article (thanks, Yuje), so we don't need to merge it. Maybe we could move it to
Koreans in China or
Korean Chinese, along the lines of
Korean American? -
Nat Krause(
Talk!)
01:49, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
Choaxinzu ( means Koreans). Chinese describe all Koreans from Korean Peninsula ( Choaxinzu).
Here are the options I can think of
Any other ideas? - Nat Krause( Talk!) 22:08, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
Actually, I just realised there is a precedence for naming an article like this - Zainichi Korean. So maybe Chaoxianzu Korean? I'm not sure anymore. --- Hong Qi Gong 16:50, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm not so sure the Chinese XYZ example is a good example for this article. Firstly, the Chinese in the US, Canada, maybe Australia are the only ones that use Chinese XYZ. Almost everybody else use XYZ Chinese. Which means that if anything, XYZ Chinese would be a better example (so the article would be named Chinese Korean).
Secondly, this XYZ Chinese convention is also used by academia. There has been plenty of academic studies on the Overseas Chinese, and XYZ Chinese seems to be the commonly used term, as opposed to Chinese XYZ. To the best of my knowledge at least, there hasn't been as much academic studies done on Overseas Koreans, and I'm not aware of any naming convention for them. --- Hong Qi Gong 01:53, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
So can we get a concise idea of what everyone prefers to name this article? I like either "Ethnic Koreans in China" or "Chaoxianzu" (like how " Zainichi Korean" is named, with the Japanese term, whereas "Chaoxianzu" is a Chinese term used by the government). --- Hong Qi Gong 19:44, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
In Chinese Chaoxian means "Chosun" old Korean Kingdom or Dynasty. The word "Zu" means people. Choxianzu means " Chosun people". Chinese called Koreans Chaoxian.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Typeking ( talk • contribs) 2007-05-27 01:12:27
"Bei Han" and "Chao Xian" are both everyday Chinese words for North Korea. "Nan Han" and "Han Guo" are used for South Korea. But in some cases, "Chao Xian" can also be the whole Korea. Indeed, "ChaoXian Zu" is one of 56 ethnics in China. They are chinese and "maybe or not" from Korea. Liuxch ( talk) 01:14, 27 October 2011 (UTC)LiuXCH
Since one editor expressed his/her concern that some of the information in this article may be inaccurate, let's go over them then. Krnc, would you list which sections you have concerns with, the nature of the inaccuracy, and your sources justifying this? I don't mind correcting inaccurate information, but entire sections, such as the information on population statistics, simply just got blanked. -- Yuje 20:57, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Korean Chinese doesn't need to live in Yanbian to be recognized as one of the China's ethnic minority. Many other ethnic minorities in China don't have automonous regions. Manchu's Qing didn't rule Joseon Korea directly, not mention enslavement. The Japanese didn't migrate Koreans in the beging years of Manchukou. There were no identification system in China before 1958. It is quite absurd for you to say those Koreans were granted citizenship in 1957. There are only less than 2 million Korean Chinese, vast majority of who live in China. They don't need a world wide population distribution in the article. Illegal immigration is a matter of different nature.
The discrimation thing you want to add should be added to the South Korean people page. Since South Korea is a small country, it doesn't welcome foreigners and returned Koreans. Wiki is not a place for some South Korean ethnic extremests to attack possible potential immigrants.
Not necessarily "inaccurate" information, per se, but it strikes me that the information about "historical" Koreans in China should be assigned elsewhere. The currently recognized ethnic Koreans in China have no long historical roots: as the article itself notes, they are mostly 19th or 20th century arrivals. The historical Koreans, assuming they can be considered "Koreans" in the modern sense at all, have all disappeared into history. 76.171.166.184 ( talk) 20:02, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
"Korean Chinese are ethnic Koreans living in the People's Republic of China."
This phrase is inaccurate and has been modified. Korean Chinese are ethnic Koreans with PRC citizenship (Chinese citizenship), they consider themselves Chinese first (中国人), and the vast majority today were born in China. Western media would call them Chinese also. The ethnic Korean Cui Jian is a Chinese rocker, not a "Korean" rocker. Some Korean Chinese do not even live in the PRC, such as the tens of thousands of Korean Chinese living in South Korea, but they are still considered Korean Chinese. Whereas South Korean citizens living in the PRC do not consider themselves Korean Chinese. 128.135.96.213 19:26, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I've moved the article. --- Hong Qi Gong 19:07, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
I don't know how many ethnic Koreans in China actually speak Korean and/or Mandarin. But one thing for sure, Mandarin is taught in schools all across China, so at the very least, most of them do speak it. I say "most", and not "all" here because there is the matter of refugees/illegal immigrants from North Korea, who I assume would not speak Mandarin. But it is questionable whether or not they should be considered a part of Chaoxianzu.
I know that Korean is allowed to be used in government in autonomous regions like Yanbian, but is it taught in schools in these regions? Does anybody know? --- Hong Qi Gong 19:05, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
On the surface, at least to me personally, it seems kind of disingenuous to leave no mention in this article of North Korean defectors. But I don't really know how much interactions they have with the ethnic Korean minorities in China, so may be it's irrelevant to mention them. If I had to take a wild guess though, I would think that many of them have blended in with the ethnic Korean population in northeast China. Anybody have sources that discuss this? Hong Qi Gong ( Talk - Contribs) 20:16, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
I agree. With Han Chinese already outnumbering the "legal" Koreans even in Yanbian, and with a steady trickle of refugees crossing the rivers, the latter perhaps constitute an important group not only in the area's demographic makeup by their sheer numbers, but also in the local economy. I'd guess a number of businesses take advantage of their status as illegals; other refugees perhaps work as smugglers or escape agents. Those that cannot speak enough Chinese to pass as natives probably have no choice. Anything on social and economic relations between the three groups (Han, natives, refugees) would be nice to have in the article. Wikipeditor 02:27, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
This is a trivia subject. I've moved these information to trivia section. It is not what this article is meant for. They shouldn't be listed in the intro. Rrcn 03:09, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
cab 03:19, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
The intro definitely should define the topic, which refers to Koreans who are Chinese citizens. North Korean refugees are only relevant information. They should be in Trivia section. Rrcn 03:39, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
Korean Chinese is Chinese citizen and has no Korean nationality, if they acquire Korean nationality then they will lose Chinese citizenship.
There are many ethnic Chinese oversea, can all topics related to oversea Chinese groups are in WikiProject China?
Also, NK defectors should not be counted as this topic! They are temporarily refugee! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.77.64.117 ( talk • contribs) 14:46, 27 February 2007
Were Li Chengliang and his children actually ethnic Koreans? I remember reading before that Li Chengliang had fourth or fifth generation Korean ancestry, so it's possible that he might be of mixed Chinese and Korean descent instead of an ethnic Korean. -- Yuje 06:45, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Seems a bit silly to me to include historic persons with questions over their heritage (e.g. Gao Xianzhi and Li Chengliang) in this category. Their descendants in China, should there be any, have long become assimiliated. I propose that only those with relatively recent, definitely clearly identifiable heritage be kept under this category. H27kim 20:25, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
For dedicated editors of this page: The "Related Groups" info was removed from all {{ Infobox Ethnic group}} infoboxes. Comments may be left on the Ethnic groups talk page. Ling.Nut 16:40, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Added Kim Mi-ah, CCTV singing contest winner.--Korsentry 04:25, 27 May 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by KoreanSentry ( talk • contribs)
It is horribly written (in terms of language use), and there seems to be elements of original research, drawing illogical conclusions from citations by slippery slope. Please correct as soon as possible. 81.98.138.93 ( talk) 16:08, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
Like most ethnic group, Korean doesn't have a plural in English dictionary. In Merriam Webster, Korean, is defined as native of Korea. There's no entry of Koreans. Likewise, there's no plural of Indian(s), Chinese (Chineses) Japanese(Japaneses) etc. Therefore, to move Koreans in China to Korean in China, which is more grammatically safe and ethnically acceptable, shouldn't cost much or hurt anybody's feeling, I hope. Clari 2010 ( talk) 14:26, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
In China, it's Chosen. see http://mz.china.com.cn/?action-viewnews-itemid-4643 -- 刻意(Kèyì) 09:16, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
Many Korean women from China marry South Korean men.
Rajmaan ( talk) 23:10, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
In the Yuan dynasty, Koreans were included along with Northern Chinese, Khitan and Jurchen in the third class, as "Han ren".
http://www.academia.edu/7542628/The_Semu_ren_in_the_Yuan_Empire_-_who_were_they
http://books.google.com/books?id=sNpD5UKmkswC&pg=PA247#v=onepage&q&f=false
Semu men would marry Korean women.
Title Empire's Twilight: Northeast Asia Under the Mongols Volume 68 of Harvard-Yenching Institute monograph series, Harvard Yenching Institute (Cambridge, Mass.), ISSN 0073-084X Volume 68 of Monograph series: Harvard Yenching Institute Author David M. Robinson Edition illustrated Publisher Harvard University Press, 2009 ISBN 0674036085, 9780674036086 Length 439 pages
A rich merchant from the Ma'bar Sultanate, Abu Ali, was associated closely with the Ma'bar royal family. After falling out with them, he fled to Yuan dynasty China and was granted an official job and a Korean woman as his wife by the Mongol Emperor.
http://books.google.com/books?id=GSA_AaRdgioC&pg=PA138#v=onepage&q&f=false
Page 315
http://www2.ihp.sinica.edu.tw/file/1445ZBWAkRi.pdf
Korean servants
http://books.google.com/books?id=ZSNMGosP0cAC&pg=PA35#v=onepage&q&f=false
Page 63
Tang dynasty
http://books.google.com/books?id=emPuDu97qbkC&pg=PA39#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=9Z7cZ77SqEQC&pg=PA44#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=9Z7cZ77SqEQC&pg=PA57#v=onepage&q&f=false
04:41, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
Koreans in China emphasize that their being in China began in the 19th century when they migrated from Korea to China, and that they are not remnants of Goguryeo or Gojoseon.
http://web.stanford.edu/group/sjeaa/journal51/korea2.pdf
Rajmaan ( talk) 20:36, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
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