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such as tuva groove -- voodoom 23:00, 7 April 2006 (UTC) reply

Kongar-ool or Kongar-ol

Why is this article titled "Kongar-ool Ondar" rather than "Kongar-ol Ondar"? Perhaps it's a more correct Tyvan transliteration, but following the link to the official page, we see that the subject himself uses "Kongar-ol". -- Theodore Kloba 15:56, 8 May 2006 (UTC) reply

I wondered the same thing. I created the original article at Kongar-ol Ondar. In November is was moved to Kongar-ool Ondar by Kintetsubuffalo. I did not see any discussion of the move beforehand. Econrad 16:48, 8 May 2006 (UTC) reply
Sorry about the lack of discussion. I know the guy, and two 'o's is how he spells it. Chris 00:43, 11 May 2006 (UTC) reply
Not according to his official homepage. Also, the single "o" spelling gets 4 times the Google hits. Exploding Boy ( talk) 15:59, 5 March 2010 (UTC) reply

The Americanized spelling is a reflection of American record producers. It's the same reason for Huun Huur Tu instead of Hün Hürtü. Americans would pronounce the name wrong if it was marketed with two o's. I corrected the actual Tyvan spelling and leave it to you fine editors to decide what to do with the Americanized name. -- Stacey Doljack Borsody ( talk) 04:47, 24 October 2010 (UTC) reply

~~ I think it should be -ool. According to this research article ( archived version), it is spelled -ool. Most other Tuvans use -ool (e.g., see Kaigal-ool Khovalyg). Kongar-ool's homepage may say -ol but that site hasn't been updated for a long time. The title on the photo in this article uses -ōl, perhaps that should be changed as well. 2604:2000:E88C:3900:B043:90A5:3B2B:2033 ( talk) 07:17, 17 September 2016 (UTC) reply

See discussion on this image, and help me save it before it is deleted. Chris 21:11, 23 October 2006 (UTC) reply

Page move

The name "Kongar-ol Ondar" may or may not be the correct transcription from the cyrillic alphabet, but that is the name used on his records, his homepage, and for his Allmusic entry. Hekerui ( talk) 11:51, 8 September 2010 (UTC) reply

I think it should be -ool. According to this research article ( archived version), it is spelled -ool. Most other Tuvans use -ool (e.g., see Kaigal-ool Khovalyg). Kongar-ool's homepage may say -ol but that site hasn't been updated for a long time. The records very likely Anglicized the spelling for marketing reasons. 2604:2000:E88C:3900:B043:90A5:3B2B:2033 ( talk) 07:30, 17 September 2016 (UTC) reply
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

songs

such as tuva groove -- voodoom 23:00, 7 April 2006 (UTC) reply

Kongar-ool or Kongar-ol

Why is this article titled "Kongar-ool Ondar" rather than "Kongar-ol Ondar"? Perhaps it's a more correct Tyvan transliteration, but following the link to the official page, we see that the subject himself uses "Kongar-ol". -- Theodore Kloba 15:56, 8 May 2006 (UTC) reply

I wondered the same thing. I created the original article at Kongar-ol Ondar. In November is was moved to Kongar-ool Ondar by Kintetsubuffalo. I did not see any discussion of the move beforehand. Econrad 16:48, 8 May 2006 (UTC) reply
Sorry about the lack of discussion. I know the guy, and two 'o's is how he spells it. Chris 00:43, 11 May 2006 (UTC) reply
Not according to his official homepage. Also, the single "o" spelling gets 4 times the Google hits. Exploding Boy ( talk) 15:59, 5 March 2010 (UTC) reply

The Americanized spelling is a reflection of American record producers. It's the same reason for Huun Huur Tu instead of Hün Hürtü. Americans would pronounce the name wrong if it was marketed with two o's. I corrected the actual Tyvan spelling and leave it to you fine editors to decide what to do with the Americanized name. -- Stacey Doljack Borsody ( talk) 04:47, 24 October 2010 (UTC) reply

~~ I think it should be -ool. According to this research article ( archived version), it is spelled -ool. Most other Tuvans use -ool (e.g., see Kaigal-ool Khovalyg). Kongar-ool's homepage may say -ol but that site hasn't been updated for a long time. The title on the photo in this article uses -ōl, perhaps that should be changed as well. 2604:2000:E88C:3900:B043:90A5:3B2B:2033 ( talk) 07:17, 17 September 2016 (UTC) reply

See discussion on this image, and help me save it before it is deleted. Chris 21:11, 23 October 2006 (UTC) reply

Page move

The name "Kongar-ol Ondar" may or may not be the correct transcription from the cyrillic alphabet, but that is the name used on his records, his homepage, and for his Allmusic entry. Hekerui ( talk) 11:51, 8 September 2010 (UTC) reply

I think it should be -ool. According to this research article ( archived version), it is spelled -ool. Most other Tuvans use -ool (e.g., see Kaigal-ool Khovalyg). Kongar-ool's homepage may say -ol but that site hasn't been updated for a long time. The records very likely Anglicized the spelling for marketing reasons. 2604:2000:E88C:3900:B043:90A5:3B2B:2033 ( talk) 07:30, 17 September 2016 (UTC) reply

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