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http://www.284.dk/slaget%20ved%20gedser.htm (original Danish methinks) http://www.navalhistory.dk/English/History/1945_1989/SlagetVedGedser_1980.htm (translation in English)
The above info is a pair of blog-posts, but the blog-texts are republished (with permission! what is the internet coming to!) from the following publication:
The photos in the pieces clearly show Komet, one of the Kondor-class vessels.
There are also photos of three or four newspaper-clippings, from the aftermath of the collision-event with MHV 94. I could not see the mastheads/years, but then, I don't speak Danish.
Neat story, as a bonus. :-) — 74.192.84.101 ( talk) 03:35, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
There are three books listed as direct sources on projekt891.de, which is a fansite dedicated to the Kondor. One place gives a page-number, for the first book. The fourth book is the "owner's manual" for the vessel methinks.
HTH 74.192.84.101 ( talk) 03:35, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
Roland Arnold , http://archive.is/1XMQZ == http://www.projekt891.de , Geschichte eines Schifftyps, Modellbau , MSR-kurz Uwe Galepp , http://www.galepp.com , umfangreiche Seite über LTS /KTS der VM Klaus Gaeth , http://www.schnellboot.net , TS / RS und mehr Rainer Glatzel , http://www.beepworld.de/members33/seemann1978/ind ex.htm , Kondor II, Marinezeit, Peenemünde Olaf Liebeskind , http://home.arcor.de/olafliebeskind" , UAW - Parchim, Marinezeit,Modellbau Roberto Roth , http://www.kssberlin.de.vu www.robertoroth.de , KSS Berlin u.a. zur Marine Marinekameradschaft Bug 1992 e.V. , http://www.mkbug.de l , http://www.battleships- cruisers.co.uk/maltese_navy.htm Nauticteam Gozo (Heike Merz und Thomas Zurawski) , http://www.nauticteam.com , A2
Thanks for improving wikipedia, folks. 74.192.84.101 ( talk) 03:35, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
I haven't found any clear explanation in sources, if Kondor class name was original GDR name, or NATO code, but I am convinced this is NATO code only. Most books just treat it as German class name, which is suspicious, considering, that Warsaw Pact countries in general revealed as little names of military equipment as possible, even in own military press. Moreover, there are no other NATO code names for Kondor, Hai, Krake, Frosch, Libelle, Parchim etc classes. It doesn't seem likely, that GDR revealed these names right after commissioning, so that NATO could use them properly ;) And names like Kondor I, II, Frosch I, II are too similar to names like Kresta I, II... Pibwl ←« 14:19, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
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http://www.284.dk/slaget%20ved%20gedser.htm (original Danish methinks) http://www.navalhistory.dk/English/History/1945_1989/SlagetVedGedser_1980.htm (translation in English)
The above info is a pair of blog-posts, but the blog-texts are republished (with permission! what is the internet coming to!) from the following publication:
The photos in the pieces clearly show Komet, one of the Kondor-class vessels.
There are also photos of three or four newspaper-clippings, from the aftermath of the collision-event with MHV 94. I could not see the mastheads/years, but then, I don't speak Danish.
Neat story, as a bonus. :-) — 74.192.84.101 ( talk) 03:35, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
There are three books listed as direct sources on projekt891.de, which is a fansite dedicated to the Kondor. One place gives a page-number, for the first book. The fourth book is the "owner's manual" for the vessel methinks.
HTH 74.192.84.101 ( talk) 03:35, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
Roland Arnold , http://archive.is/1XMQZ == http://www.projekt891.de , Geschichte eines Schifftyps, Modellbau , MSR-kurz Uwe Galepp , http://www.galepp.com , umfangreiche Seite über LTS /KTS der VM Klaus Gaeth , http://www.schnellboot.net , TS / RS und mehr Rainer Glatzel , http://www.beepworld.de/members33/seemann1978/ind ex.htm , Kondor II, Marinezeit, Peenemünde Olaf Liebeskind , http://home.arcor.de/olafliebeskind" , UAW - Parchim, Marinezeit,Modellbau Roberto Roth , http://www.kssberlin.de.vu www.robertoroth.de , KSS Berlin u.a. zur Marine Marinekameradschaft Bug 1992 e.V. , http://www.mkbug.de l , http://www.battleships- cruisers.co.uk/maltese_navy.htm Nauticteam Gozo (Heike Merz und Thomas Zurawski) , http://www.nauticteam.com , A2
Thanks for improving wikipedia, folks. 74.192.84.101 ( talk) 03:35, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
I haven't found any clear explanation in sources, if Kondor class name was original GDR name, or NATO code, but I am convinced this is NATO code only. Most books just treat it as German class name, which is suspicious, considering, that Warsaw Pact countries in general revealed as little names of military equipment as possible, even in own military press. Moreover, there are no other NATO code names for Kondor, Hai, Krake, Frosch, Libelle, Parchim etc classes. It doesn't seem likely, that GDR revealed these names right after commissioning, so that NATO could use them properly ;) And names like Kondor I, II, Frosch I, II are too similar to names like Kresta I, II... Pibwl ←« 14:19, 26 January 2021 (UTC)