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The result of the move request was: page moved. If we need to discuss the need for extra spaces, please start a second RM. Vegaswikian ( talk) 06:23, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Komm, Gib Mir Deine Hand / Sie Liebt Dich →
Komm, gib mir deine Hand / Sie liebt dich – Work titles in German aren't capitalised unless German grammar asks for it. --
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Did the single chart in Germany? Was it ever released in East Germany? - Ashley Pomeroy ( talk) 19:33, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
I have found a few sites that indicate Parlophone released "Komm, gib mir deine Hand" b/w "Sie liebt dich" in Australia on 25 June 1964, catalogued as A8117. This shows up on Joe Goddenn's Beatles Bible and on Discogs. I have not found this sourced in any print authorities however. Given that Discogs has pictures of the label, I'm sure it was released, but until we find something authoritative it will need to be left off the page.
Next, I've included a lengthy footnote regarding the date of release in West Germany. Nearly every source I've read — Walter Everett, [1] Barry Miles, [2] Kenneth Womack [3] and Margotin & Guesdon [4] (though Womack and M&G cite Everett) — say Odeon released it on 5 March 1964. This doesn't make much sense given that, according to Mark Lewisohn, the songs were not mixed in mono and stereo until 10 and 12 March, respectively. [5] John Winn simply says that after the songs were mixed they were "sent to West Germany for rush-release..." [6] The Beatles Bible gives an even more nonsensical release of 4 February, only six days after recording. On the official German charts, it indicates that both songs first entered on 1 April 1964, implying a release sometime in the second half of March. I can't narrow the range down any further than this (12 March – 1 April 1964).
I have been looking for better sources regarding both of these claims but have so far come up empty. I expect we may need to wait until Lewisohn comes out with volume 2 of The Beatles: All These Years (sometime around 2045). Tkbrett (✉) 17:35, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
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I can't help feeling this article relies way too much on direct quotations. It becomes something of a George Martin armchair recollection. (Yes, he was the Parlophone boss and their connection with EMI worldwide, but he's not the artist.) Also, the amount of text relegated to notes – creating 16 notes in total – is quite a surprise, given the article's not at all long. It's especially noticeable under Background, where three consecutive sentences carry notes/asides. JG66 ( talk) 15:18, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
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Odeon Records insisted that they record their hit songs in German to generate more sales there? |
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The result of the move request was: page moved. If we need to discuss the need for extra spaces, please start a second RM. Vegaswikian ( talk) 06:23, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Komm, Gib Mir Deine Hand / Sie Liebt Dich →
Komm, gib mir deine Hand / Sie liebt dich – Work titles in German aren't capitalised unless German grammar asks for it. --
The Evil IP address (
talk)
17:45, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
Did the single chart in Germany? Was it ever released in East Germany? - Ashley Pomeroy ( talk) 19:33, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
I have found a few sites that indicate Parlophone released "Komm, gib mir deine Hand" b/w "Sie liebt dich" in Australia on 25 June 1964, catalogued as A8117. This shows up on Joe Goddenn's Beatles Bible and on Discogs. I have not found this sourced in any print authorities however. Given that Discogs has pictures of the label, I'm sure it was released, but until we find something authoritative it will need to be left off the page.
Next, I've included a lengthy footnote regarding the date of release in West Germany. Nearly every source I've read — Walter Everett, [1] Barry Miles, [2] Kenneth Womack [3] and Margotin & Guesdon [4] (though Womack and M&G cite Everett) — say Odeon released it on 5 March 1964. This doesn't make much sense given that, according to Mark Lewisohn, the songs were not mixed in mono and stereo until 10 and 12 March, respectively. [5] John Winn simply says that after the songs were mixed they were "sent to West Germany for rush-release..." [6] The Beatles Bible gives an even more nonsensical release of 4 February, only six days after recording. On the official German charts, it indicates that both songs first entered on 1 April 1964, implying a release sometime in the second half of March. I can't narrow the range down any further than this (12 March – 1 April 1964).
I have been looking for better sources regarding both of these claims but have so far come up empty. I expect we may need to wait until Lewisohn comes out with volume 2 of The Beatles: All These Years (sometime around 2045). Tkbrett (✉) 17:35, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
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I can't help feeling this article relies way too much on direct quotations. It becomes something of a George Martin armchair recollection. (Yes, he was the Parlophone boss and their connection with EMI worldwide, but he's not the artist.) Also, the amount of text relegated to notes – creating 16 notes in total – is quite a surprise, given the article's not at all long. It's especially noticeable under Background, where three consecutive sentences carry notes/asides. JG66 ( talk) 15:18, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
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Oldest songs GAN that is eligible for review, so appropriate for me to take this on! -- K. Peake 06:54, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
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so there is the right space between credits and personnel