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Soghomon Gevorkevich Soghomonyan - Komitas Vartabed, by western Armenian transliteration also Gomidas, born on September 26 1869 in Kütahya, Turkey, died on October 22 1935 in Paris, France, was an Armenian priest, composer of choir music, musicologist.
Now I can see a temporary page. Copying my stub there....
Since the correct Eastern Armenian transliteration is "Komitas Vardapet" and the Western is "Gomidas Vartabed", the current article title is neither here nor there. I'll move it to "Komitas Vardapet" unless there are any objections within a week. -- Aramgutang 15:04, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I believe you. Actually the spelling used first appeared at Music of Armenia, I clicked the link and entered my text into it. You'll find similar confusion if you read all external links. So if you decide to move the page, please drop a note at the interwikied Slovenian article and correct all links at other articles that point here (click "What links here"). Of course you may add additional redirection (e.g. transliterations from western Armenian) titles. And thanks for the name in Armenian script. -- Fpga 09:28, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)
The biography #3 (Komitas's autobiographical section) mentions September 26 while EB mentions October 8. Don't know if at least one source is simply wrong or is it calendar confusion. Don't know what kind of calendar was used in Ottoman empire where he was born, does he use Julian as he spent much uf his life in Echmiadzin (then Russian controlled part of Armenia) or does Armenian church still use it ....? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fpga ( talk • contribs) 06:39, December 1, 2004 (UTC)
P.S. I've found a reliable source for September 26 – actually several, but all going back on the same scholar – so I've re-instated its mention, but added a note. -- Lambiam 13:28, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
Someone should write an informed/sourced section on the conflicts experienced by Komitas while working in Echmiadzin after his return from Europe. The article jumps from his collecting and arranging armenian music in armenia as an ordained priest to suddenly becoming in 1910 a civilian in Istanbul. Before relinquishing his role in Echmiadzin he had written an apology letter to the Catholicos explaining why he could not continue despite his deep love and devotion to the church. I do not know/remember more of this story but without it, the article is incomplete. Kotika98 ( talk) 20:00, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: Move. We have consensus that "vardapet" is unnecessary, and that this subject is the primary topic of the title "Komitas". Cúchullain t/ c 00:17, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
Komitas Vardapet →
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Including " vardapet" in the title is beyond my understanding. It's like saying "Archimandrite John". This man is, by far, more famous than Komitas (Catholicos), the only other person named Komitas. -- Երևանցի talk 04:17, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
Let me give you some authoritative sources.
The article states that the best-known version of Badarak is "his [Komitas'] favorite for four part male choir" (paraphrase). It is not clear whether this means the best-known arrangement of the Armenian Mass (Badarak) in general, or the best-known version of the Komitas arrangement or version of the Mass. If it's intended to mean in general it is certainly wrong because the arrangement of the Badarak by Magar Yegmalian is much more widely known than that of Gomidas, despite the Armenian music orthodoxy's veneration of Gomidas and his works over all other Armenian composers. The Gomidas (Komitas) Badarak would be the second most widely known. 68.41.181.40 ( talk) 06:38, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
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I'd like to withdraw this nomination. I haven't had the time to completely rewrite it and as of right now, it clearly does not meet the GA critera. -- Երևանցի talk 05:14, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
I'll happily review it, time has overtaken me. If you'd like to fail it yourself, that's fine too. The Rambling Man ( talk) 18:16, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
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If you are forced to remove the "original" text (no, I am not an "author" of it), you may replace it with the following stub, so that we'll be able to interwiki it with the artcle in Slovenian language which will be ready soon. Meanwhile I'll search for his name written in Armenian script. I'll also try to translate it into English but I am afraid I am not good at English music terms. If you obtain a permission to include the original text, you may add some extra information from the stub.
Soghomon Gevorkevich Soghomonyan - Komitas Vartabed, by western Armenian transliteration also Gomidas, born on September 26 1869 in Kütahya, Turkey, died on October 22 1935 in Paris, France, was an Armenian priest, composer of choir music, musicologist.
Now I can see a temporary page. Copying my stub there....
Since the correct Eastern Armenian transliteration is "Komitas Vardapet" and the Western is "Gomidas Vartabed", the current article title is neither here nor there. I'll move it to "Komitas Vardapet" unless there are any objections within a week. -- Aramgutang 15:04, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I believe you. Actually the spelling used first appeared at Music of Armenia, I clicked the link and entered my text into it. You'll find similar confusion if you read all external links. So if you decide to move the page, please drop a note at the interwikied Slovenian article and correct all links at other articles that point here (click "What links here"). Of course you may add additional redirection (e.g. transliterations from western Armenian) titles. And thanks for the name in Armenian script. -- Fpga 09:28, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)
The biography #3 (Komitas's autobiographical section) mentions September 26 while EB mentions October 8. Don't know if at least one source is simply wrong or is it calendar confusion. Don't know what kind of calendar was used in Ottoman empire where he was born, does he use Julian as he spent much uf his life in Echmiadzin (then Russian controlled part of Armenia) or does Armenian church still use it ....? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fpga ( talk • contribs) 06:39, December 1, 2004 (UTC)
P.S. I've found a reliable source for September 26 – actually several, but all going back on the same scholar – so I've re-instated its mention, but added a note. -- Lambiam 13:28, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
Someone should write an informed/sourced section on the conflicts experienced by Komitas while working in Echmiadzin after his return from Europe. The article jumps from his collecting and arranging armenian music in armenia as an ordained priest to suddenly becoming in 1910 a civilian in Istanbul. Before relinquishing his role in Echmiadzin he had written an apology letter to the Catholicos explaining why he could not continue despite his deep love and devotion to the church. I do not know/remember more of this story but without it, the article is incomplete. Kotika98 ( talk) 20:00, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: Move. We have consensus that "vardapet" is unnecessary, and that this subject is the primary topic of the title "Komitas". Cúchullain t/ c 00:17, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
Komitas Vardapet →
Komitas –
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC
Երևանցի
talk 04:17, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
Including " vardapet" in the title is beyond my understanding. It's like saying "Archimandrite John". This man is, by far, more famous than Komitas (Catholicos), the only other person named Komitas. -- Երևանցի talk 04:17, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
Let me give you some authoritative sources.
The article states that the best-known version of Badarak is "his [Komitas'] favorite for four part male choir" (paraphrase). It is not clear whether this means the best-known arrangement of the Armenian Mass (Badarak) in general, or the best-known version of the Komitas arrangement or version of the Mass. If it's intended to mean in general it is certainly wrong because the arrangement of the Badarak by Magar Yegmalian is much more widely known than that of Gomidas, despite the Armenian music orthodoxy's veneration of Gomidas and his works over all other Armenian composers. The Gomidas (Komitas) Badarak would be the second most widely known. 68.41.181.40 ( talk) 06:38, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
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I'd like to withdraw this nomination. I haven't had the time to completely rewrite it and as of right now, it clearly does not meet the GA critera. -- Երևանցի talk 05:14, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
I'll happily review it, time has overtaken me. If you'd like to fail it yourself, that's fine too. The Rambling Man ( talk) 18:16, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
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