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Post nominals: "It is doubtful whether this enjoys official sanction"? So it's not official then... and this assertion should not be here. "Kt" is wrong. The reference is to the order of wear list which summarises which honours may or may not have post nominals. Knights bachelor are not entitled to do so.
The picture added by ESQ24 appears to be the same as the one on www.medals.org.uk. The copyright status needs to be determined or it will have to go... which would be a shame because it's a nice one. Wiki-Ed 13:07, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
Is it possible that a Knight Bachelor been awarded a KBE or vice versa ? Siyac 18:41, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
Can only Britians be Knights?
What is the most reliable source we have for a list of verified Knights Bachelor so we know who to include or exclude at Category:Knights Bachelor?
For example at Paul McCartney the only reference I can see next to "1997: Knighted by Queen Elizabeth II for services to music" is Harry 2002, pp. 226–227, referring to:
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cite book}}
: Invalid |ref=harv
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help)Actually I'll need to bring that up because I notice that page 38 says this was 1996.
Bill Harry is certainly a notable person but... is he a neutral source? He has a pretty close relationship with them. I'd rather here it from an uninvolved party. Surely there is an official website affiliated with the royal family which we can rely on to say who is or isn't a knight.
If merely footage of a knighting ceremony qualifies then Michael Coulthard should probably be listed as one according to http://www.wwe.com/videos/michael-cole-talks-about-being-knighted-by-the-queen-of-england-on-raw-raw-s-1-000th-episode-airs-on-july-23
I'm not good with faces... it looks like it could be the queen, not 100% sure though. Michael is a respected journalist and says it is her, so I would go with that interpretation unless we can find a more reliable source saying it wasn't the Queen who knighted him. Ranze ( talk) 06:30, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
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Jagger is a knight bachelor. I remember reading that, around the time he was elevated that (1) most knights, nowadays, are created within one of the orders of knights, like from the Order of the British Empire; (2) Jagger, however, was made a knight bachelor, because he was too controversial, and being enrolled in one of the knightly orders, would annoy the earlier members, some of whom are quite traditional.
If this could be documented, does it merit coverage, here? Geo Swan ( talk) 02:41, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
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Which of these two should be used? As of 2020-07-17, both are on the article, one in the infobox and one in the Insignia section.
— MrDolomite • Talk 20:37, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
How many gentlemen may call themselves Sir ? 51.174.17.218 ( talk) 23:33, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
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Post nominals: "It is doubtful whether this enjoys official sanction"? So it's not official then... and this assertion should not be here. "Kt" is wrong. The reference is to the order of wear list which summarises which honours may or may not have post nominals. Knights bachelor are not entitled to do so.
The picture added by ESQ24 appears to be the same as the one on www.medals.org.uk. The copyright status needs to be determined or it will have to go... which would be a shame because it's a nice one. Wiki-Ed 13:07, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
Is it possible that a Knight Bachelor been awarded a KBE or vice versa ? Siyac 18:41, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
Can only Britians be Knights?
What is the most reliable source we have for a list of verified Knights Bachelor so we know who to include or exclude at Category:Knights Bachelor?
For example at Paul McCartney the only reference I can see next to "1997: Knighted by Queen Elizabeth II for services to music" is Harry 2002, pp. 226–227, referring to:
{{
cite book}}
: Invalid |ref=harv
(
help)Actually I'll need to bring that up because I notice that page 38 says this was 1996.
Bill Harry is certainly a notable person but... is he a neutral source? He has a pretty close relationship with them. I'd rather here it from an uninvolved party. Surely there is an official website affiliated with the royal family which we can rely on to say who is or isn't a knight.
If merely footage of a knighting ceremony qualifies then Michael Coulthard should probably be listed as one according to http://www.wwe.com/videos/michael-cole-talks-about-being-knighted-by-the-queen-of-england-on-raw-raw-s-1-000th-episode-airs-on-july-23
I'm not good with faces... it looks like it could be the queen, not 100% sure though. Michael is a respected journalist and says it is her, so I would go with that interpretation unless we can find a more reliable source saying it wasn't the Queen who knighted him. Ranze ( talk) 06:30, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
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Jagger is a knight bachelor. I remember reading that, around the time he was elevated that (1) most knights, nowadays, are created within one of the orders of knights, like from the Order of the British Empire; (2) Jagger, however, was made a knight bachelor, because he was too controversial, and being enrolled in one of the knightly orders, would annoy the earlier members, some of whom are quite traditional.
If this could be documented, does it merit coverage, here? Geo Swan ( talk) 02:41, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
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Which of these two should be used? As of 2020-07-17, both are on the article, one in the infobox and one in the Insignia section.
— MrDolomite • Talk 20:37, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
How many gentlemen may call themselves Sir ? 51.174.17.218 ( talk) 23:33, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
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