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An anon. editor jumped in here with enthusiasm to make one of his/her first edits on 18 Feb 2005. Unfortunately the sentence he/she added included a term which is neither obvious nor defined ("spiritual formation center"). I have removed it until we can get some clarity on its meaning. -- Blainster 09:04, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Kirtland Temple has plans to build a new visitors' center more suitable for the number of visitors they have been getting in recent years. The current visitors' center has a book store, theater, and a few historical items on display. From what I understand, plans for the new center hope to incorporate Community of Christ's mission today—as a church that pursues peace and justice, and promotes communities of wholeness and healing of spirit. I don't really know any of the specifics but this is what the author was refering to by "spiritual formation center". -- Dbolton 19:57, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
"School of the Apostles" is the phrase used to describe the 2nd floor of the temple. "School of the Prophets" was the phrase used to describe the classes and meetings that took place above the Whitney Store.-- Dbolton 02:05, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
The construction section references the Nauvoo temple but this is completely out of context to the reader who is not familiar with Church history. Can we put in some background on why Nauvoo is relevant? -- Chrispounds 12:07, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
I have heard that at one point in time it was used as a schoolhouse, and that one of the Presidents of the United States actually studied there as a boy. Could anyone confirm or deny this, and if it is true, it merits mention in the article.-- Isaac Crumm 22:31, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
I am looking for high resolution (300 ppi) images that would print well and are in the public domain. I see the existing image doesn't have high resolution (per the note). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.170.114.32 ( talk • contribs) 23:16, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
The following was submitted on the Restorationism article by User:Airamerica. May be more appropriate incorporated here. WBardwin ( talk) 04:40, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Someone recently added a section called "Common Kirtland Temple Myths". Does this seem inappropriate to anyone else besides me? For one, there are no sources given for the myths, leading me to believe that it is original research, but it also seems to violate guidelines regarding words to avoid and weasel words. I would remove the section, but if some sources are found, it may be possible to integrate these facts(?) into other sections. – jaksmata 15:26, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
I do not know if Artemus Millet's involvement was part of this section, as it has been deleted. I have added his work into the construction section. There are 4 references given, some of which disagree with the family tradition but still provide evidence that Millet was the key to the temple being built with stone. I would like others mentioned with references for example, Brigham Young was a key person for the interior work, as were others. I have always seen Millet with two "T"s as in Millett, but current writings seem to show one for Artemus, with many after him using both one and two "T"'s.
The original exterior stucco might have been grey or white. It did contain glass and sparkled in the sun. Whether or not any china was used is not clear, as Millet didn't publicly release the recipe of the stucco mix. By family tradition, the stucco includes hair, glass and china. There was reported a glass company in the area at the time, and it is most probable that the majority of the glass used was waste glass, or even old bottles. Reports of fine china being donated and broken have not been able to be verified over the years. I have heard this story for over 40 years. My father knew a granddaughter of Artemus, she was my father's grandmother. Any edit of this section should be to increase it's accuracy, but should not delete Artemus. Countless generations and lives were changed with his involvement, which is not a Myth. -- Archf 1 ( talk) 00:23, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Should we consider switching the order of the sections so that the Present Day section is at the bottom? This would improve the flow of the article. Thoughts? Rollidan ( talk) 22:10, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
It is misleading to say that the Kirtland Temple is a temple of the Community of Christ and the LDS church. That sounds like a joint project or joint ownership. The temple is clearly owned and operated by the Community of Christ. Yes, the LDS church has historical connections to the Kirtland temple, and that is duly stated here. However, they do not own the land or building. MichaelBotts ( talk) 22:25, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
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An anon. editor jumped in here with enthusiasm to make one of his/her first edits on 18 Feb 2005. Unfortunately the sentence he/she added included a term which is neither obvious nor defined ("spiritual formation center"). I have removed it until we can get some clarity on its meaning. -- Blainster 09:04, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Kirtland Temple has plans to build a new visitors' center more suitable for the number of visitors they have been getting in recent years. The current visitors' center has a book store, theater, and a few historical items on display. From what I understand, plans for the new center hope to incorporate Community of Christ's mission today—as a church that pursues peace and justice, and promotes communities of wholeness and healing of spirit. I don't really know any of the specifics but this is what the author was refering to by "spiritual formation center". -- Dbolton 19:57, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
"School of the Apostles" is the phrase used to describe the 2nd floor of the temple. "School of the Prophets" was the phrase used to describe the classes and meetings that took place above the Whitney Store.-- Dbolton 02:05, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
The construction section references the Nauvoo temple but this is completely out of context to the reader who is not familiar with Church history. Can we put in some background on why Nauvoo is relevant? -- Chrispounds 12:07, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
I have heard that at one point in time it was used as a schoolhouse, and that one of the Presidents of the United States actually studied there as a boy. Could anyone confirm or deny this, and if it is true, it merits mention in the article.-- Isaac Crumm 22:31, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
I am looking for high resolution (300 ppi) images that would print well and are in the public domain. I see the existing image doesn't have high resolution (per the note). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.170.114.32 ( talk • contribs) 23:16, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
The following was submitted on the Restorationism article by User:Airamerica. May be more appropriate incorporated here. WBardwin ( talk) 04:40, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Someone recently added a section called "Common Kirtland Temple Myths". Does this seem inappropriate to anyone else besides me? For one, there are no sources given for the myths, leading me to believe that it is original research, but it also seems to violate guidelines regarding words to avoid and weasel words. I would remove the section, but if some sources are found, it may be possible to integrate these facts(?) into other sections. – jaksmata 15:26, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
I do not know if Artemus Millet's involvement was part of this section, as it has been deleted. I have added his work into the construction section. There are 4 references given, some of which disagree with the family tradition but still provide evidence that Millet was the key to the temple being built with stone. I would like others mentioned with references for example, Brigham Young was a key person for the interior work, as were others. I have always seen Millet with two "T"s as in Millett, but current writings seem to show one for Artemus, with many after him using both one and two "T"'s.
The original exterior stucco might have been grey or white. It did contain glass and sparkled in the sun. Whether or not any china was used is not clear, as Millet didn't publicly release the recipe of the stucco mix. By family tradition, the stucco includes hair, glass and china. There was reported a glass company in the area at the time, and it is most probable that the majority of the glass used was waste glass, or even old bottles. Reports of fine china being donated and broken have not been able to be verified over the years. I have heard this story for over 40 years. My father knew a granddaughter of Artemus, she was my father's grandmother. Any edit of this section should be to increase it's accuracy, but should not delete Artemus. Countless generations and lives were changed with his involvement, which is not a Myth. -- Archf 1 ( talk) 00:23, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Should we consider switching the order of the sections so that the Present Day section is at the bottom? This would improve the flow of the article. Thoughts? Rollidan ( talk) 22:10, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
It is misleading to say that the Kirtland Temple is a temple of the Community of Christ and the LDS church. That sounds like a joint project or joint ownership. The temple is clearly owned and operated by the Community of Christ. Yes, the LDS church has historical connections to the Kirtland temple, and that is duly stated here. However, they do not own the land or building. MichaelBotts ( talk) 22:25, 10 July 2023 (UTC)