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Kirkham House has been in the news after a spate of vandalism to the windows. [1]. Six windows are now boarded up. WP:NOTNEWSPAPER, but worth noting.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 20:18, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
The layout is not given in the English Heritage guide, but it is in the leaflet of the house, which is here and here. The room shown in the lead position of the article is called the Parlour, and the bedchamber shown is the Best Chamber.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 11:52, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Re this edit: the origins of the house, including its name, are unclear. There isn't much point in saying something which cannot be verified, particularly in the WP:LEAD section. The source here says "It was a town house of some pretensions rather than a farmhouse, and may have been the residence of a cleric - an official connected with the Bishop's Palace, or perhaps a priest of the Kirkham Chantry. There aren't enough written records from this period to make any firm judgements about the origins of the house or its name.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 09:34, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
Guys, I've added a synthesis tag here, as I think there are problems with the way the sentence "The gentry family of Kirkham of Blagdon, two miles west of Paignton, was prominent in Paignton between the 13th and 17th centuries, but no direct link between the family and the house is known to exist." is now presented. The relevant bit of policy is that we shouldn't "combine material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any of the sources." The first half of the sentence cites the existence of the Kirkham family, but makes no reference to them and the house; the second half states is referenced to the English Heritage page, but the page concerned, rather than supporting this statement, doesn't actually mention the family at all - it just says that we don't know who originally built the house. The implication of the sentence, in combining the two halves, is that a reliable secondary source has actually considered the claim that the house was linked to the Kirkham family in some way and concluded that no direct link exists; in fact, neither source makes any such connection, thus my synthesis concerns. Given that no reliable source appears to be linking the Kirkham family to the house (or denying such a link) could I suggest that we simply delete the sentence? Hchc2009 ( talk) 15:23, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
The rear garden wall at Kirkham House has collapsed and is fenced off. Photo here. This was probably caused by all of the recent heavy rain. Hopefully this will get repaired soon.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 18:59, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
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Kirkham House has been in the news after a spate of vandalism to the windows. [1]. Six windows are now boarded up. WP:NOTNEWSPAPER, but worth noting.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 20:18, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
The layout is not given in the English Heritage guide, but it is in the leaflet of the house, which is here and here. The room shown in the lead position of the article is called the Parlour, and the bedchamber shown is the Best Chamber.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 11:52, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Re this edit: the origins of the house, including its name, are unclear. There isn't much point in saying something which cannot be verified, particularly in the WP:LEAD section. The source here says "It was a town house of some pretensions rather than a farmhouse, and may have been the residence of a cleric - an official connected with the Bishop's Palace, or perhaps a priest of the Kirkham Chantry. There aren't enough written records from this period to make any firm judgements about the origins of the house or its name.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 09:34, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
Guys, I've added a synthesis tag here, as I think there are problems with the way the sentence "The gentry family of Kirkham of Blagdon, two miles west of Paignton, was prominent in Paignton between the 13th and 17th centuries, but no direct link between the family and the house is known to exist." is now presented. The relevant bit of policy is that we shouldn't "combine material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any of the sources." The first half of the sentence cites the existence of the Kirkham family, but makes no reference to them and the house; the second half states is referenced to the English Heritage page, but the page concerned, rather than supporting this statement, doesn't actually mention the family at all - it just says that we don't know who originally built the house. The implication of the sentence, in combining the two halves, is that a reliable secondary source has actually considered the claim that the house was linked to the Kirkham family in some way and concluded that no direct link exists; in fact, neither source makes any such connection, thus my synthesis concerns. Given that no reliable source appears to be linking the Kirkham family to the house (or denying such a link) could I suggest that we simply delete the sentence? Hchc2009 ( talk) 15:23, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
The rear garden wall at Kirkham House has collapsed and is fenced off. Photo here. This was probably caused by all of the recent heavy rain. Hopefully this will get repaired soon.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 18:59, 28 February 2020 (UTC)