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Some of this article's content is duplicated at the article section Jehovah's Witnesses publications for adherents#Sing Praises to Jehovah. From THAT article, I propose to remove many of the music details which are already discussed HERE, thus leaving that other article section to discuss the publication as it relates to JW adherents, rather than musicologists. If you wish to comment, please do so at that article's TALK page. Thanks. -- AuthorityTam ( talk) 21:44, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
This article should include an additional section for audio recordings of singing.
JWs had
LPs for years, and some drama cassettes included singing roles. In 1996 in English, Singing Kingdom Songs was released on cassette and CD. In 2005, JW pubs referred to "certain recordings of Kingdom songs sung in a popular style that are presently being circulated among Jehovah’s Witnesses."
All that is of encyclopedic interest. --
AuthorityTam (
talk)
16:46, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
The intro is accurately describes "Kingdom songs" as 'hymns sung at meetings', and it is correct for 'meetings' here to link to the practices article which discusses ALL the JWs' meetings. However, later in this article here, the statement is made that 'a meeting has three songs', which is really only true for meetings at Kingdom Halls; it is NOT true for meetings for service held at homes, it is NOT true for Memorial commemorations, it is NOT true for assemblies, it is NOT true for conventions. Thus, insistently removing the link ( here and here) to Kingdom Hall meetings seems to insist on removing information about the ACTUAL circumstances surrounding the type of meeting with three songs. By contrast, there seems no pressing NEED to remove the link. -- AuthorityTam ( talk) 21:06, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
For the convenience of a WP:3O respondent , it seems appropriate to summarize my view:
-- AuthorityTam ( talk) 16:26, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
I have included two sample audio of kingdom songs under fair usage policy. Wikipedia encourages sample music in articles if it is possible. see below articles.
I think the above examples are enough to convince my viewpoint.. Flowerman75 ( talk) 16:30, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Dear contributors, I can't understand why current article for "Kingdom Songs" is so different to the article that was active in march 2010. Sincerely I think that it was beeter than current article... of course it could be improve. On February and March 2010 (I think) I sent some suggested changes to the article and also some bibliographic references about almost all the hymnals used by C.T. Russell in compiling his first two songbooks (Songs of the Bride, and Poems and Hymns of Dawn)... and also I gave two bibliographic references of my own work about this subject. These have been deleted in the current article. I think that at this moment there are no academic works published about this subject except my articles... and published in one of the best scientific digital repositories of the world (Digital.CSIC)< http://digital.csic.es/?idioma=en >. I am doing my doctoral dissertation about hymnals and songbooks used by Jehovah's Witnesses and Bible Students at the University of Barcelona (Spain) from an historical point of view... and I think that my references could be of help in this subject(despite they are in spanish language). Sorry, please, do not think I want that my articles must be quoted, but only I would like to know the reasons to delete them and also the reasons to have changed so much the article. Of course I cant share with you information about Kingdom Songs. Yours Miquel —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maplaza ( talk • contribs) 08:13, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
Only to inform you, if it can be of interest to anyone, that my doctoral dissertation about "Musica y Testigos Cristianos de Jehová: aproximación histórica a sus himnarios y prácticas musicales" [English translation: "Music and Jehovah's Witnesses: historical approach to their hymnals and musical practices"] is now accessible at the CSIC institutional repository, the biggest research repository in Spain. Here you have a secure link: http://hdl.handle.net/10261/75500 It is in spanish, but with many english quotations and an english abstract. Yours Miquel Angel Plaza-Navas (Barcelona, Spain) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maplaza ( talk • contribs) 11:06, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
Although it does not currently address the name "Kingdom song", the article does mention that the term was in international use by the 1930s. The switch to the unique name seems a natural point to discuss (and vis a vis "hymn"), so I welcome others' efforts and hope to eventually research the matter myself.-- AuthorityTam ( talk) 22:33, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
This explanation was provided in the, 2011 Yearbook of Jehovah’s Witnesses on pages 17-19:
Can someone explain why the article is named "Kingdom songs" and not "Kingdom song"? In general, page titles should be singular, so I'm unclear how/why this is different. Nyttend ( talk) 21:59, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
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Some of this article's content is duplicated at the article section Jehovah's Witnesses publications for adherents#Sing Praises to Jehovah. From THAT article, I propose to remove many of the music details which are already discussed HERE, thus leaving that other article section to discuss the publication as it relates to JW adherents, rather than musicologists. If you wish to comment, please do so at that article's TALK page. Thanks. -- AuthorityTam ( talk) 21:44, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
This article should include an additional section for audio recordings of singing.
JWs had
LPs for years, and some drama cassettes included singing roles. In 1996 in English, Singing Kingdom Songs was released on cassette and CD. In 2005, JW pubs referred to "certain recordings of Kingdom songs sung in a popular style that are presently being circulated among Jehovah’s Witnesses."
All that is of encyclopedic interest. --
AuthorityTam (
talk)
16:46, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
The intro is accurately describes "Kingdom songs" as 'hymns sung at meetings', and it is correct for 'meetings' here to link to the practices article which discusses ALL the JWs' meetings. However, later in this article here, the statement is made that 'a meeting has three songs', which is really only true for meetings at Kingdom Halls; it is NOT true for meetings for service held at homes, it is NOT true for Memorial commemorations, it is NOT true for assemblies, it is NOT true for conventions. Thus, insistently removing the link ( here and here) to Kingdom Hall meetings seems to insist on removing information about the ACTUAL circumstances surrounding the type of meeting with three songs. By contrast, there seems no pressing NEED to remove the link. -- AuthorityTam ( talk) 21:06, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
For the convenience of a WP:3O respondent , it seems appropriate to summarize my view:
-- AuthorityTam ( talk) 16:26, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
I have included two sample audio of kingdom songs under fair usage policy. Wikipedia encourages sample music in articles if it is possible. see below articles.
I think the above examples are enough to convince my viewpoint.. Flowerman75 ( talk) 16:30, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Dear contributors, I can't understand why current article for "Kingdom Songs" is so different to the article that was active in march 2010. Sincerely I think that it was beeter than current article... of course it could be improve. On February and March 2010 (I think) I sent some suggested changes to the article and also some bibliographic references about almost all the hymnals used by C.T. Russell in compiling his first two songbooks (Songs of the Bride, and Poems and Hymns of Dawn)... and also I gave two bibliographic references of my own work about this subject. These have been deleted in the current article. I think that at this moment there are no academic works published about this subject except my articles... and published in one of the best scientific digital repositories of the world (Digital.CSIC)< http://digital.csic.es/?idioma=en >. I am doing my doctoral dissertation about hymnals and songbooks used by Jehovah's Witnesses and Bible Students at the University of Barcelona (Spain) from an historical point of view... and I think that my references could be of help in this subject(despite they are in spanish language). Sorry, please, do not think I want that my articles must be quoted, but only I would like to know the reasons to delete them and also the reasons to have changed so much the article. Of course I cant share with you information about Kingdom Songs. Yours Miquel —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maplaza ( talk • contribs) 08:13, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
Only to inform you, if it can be of interest to anyone, that my doctoral dissertation about "Musica y Testigos Cristianos de Jehová: aproximación histórica a sus himnarios y prácticas musicales" [English translation: "Music and Jehovah's Witnesses: historical approach to their hymnals and musical practices"] is now accessible at the CSIC institutional repository, the biggest research repository in Spain. Here you have a secure link: http://hdl.handle.net/10261/75500 It is in spanish, but with many english quotations and an english abstract. Yours Miquel Angel Plaza-Navas (Barcelona, Spain) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maplaza ( talk • contribs) 11:06, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
Although it does not currently address the name "Kingdom song", the article does mention that the term was in international use by the 1930s. The switch to the unique name seems a natural point to discuss (and vis a vis "hymn"), so I welcome others' efforts and hope to eventually research the matter myself.-- AuthorityTam ( talk) 22:33, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
This explanation was provided in the, 2011 Yearbook of Jehovah’s Witnesses on pages 17-19:
Can someone explain why the article is named "Kingdom songs" and not "Kingdom song"? In general, page titles should be singular, so I'm unclear how/why this is different. Nyttend ( talk) 21:59, 13 May 2014 (UTC)