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Please leave the character order as it is now with all of the Souphanousinphones together, the four alley guys together, the Hills together, and so on. It simply makes more sense this way. If you wish to change simply state why and how it would make more sense, otherwise please leave it as is.
Does anyone think this should remain in the "animated children's series" category? It isn't really a children's show. -jules991
Boomhauer's first name has never been revealed on the show. Several websites list his first name as "Jeff," but this has no basis in the series. As such the article title and link name were changed from "Jeff Boomhauer" to "Boomhauer." -Lockeheed 18:37, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)
This article really should be cleaned up. A brief lisitng of the main characters is important, but any further mentioning of less significant characters should probably be saved for a seperate article. Perhaps more background on the show and its roots in popular culture and its basis on Mike Judge's own personal history would be apropriate.
It seems ok. Look at the Seinfeld article and it's various expansion pages ( Seinfeld characters and culture and List of Seinfeld episodes) if you want to see how an article should be split up. I know the King of the Hill page isn't quite as long though. I mean, even Festivus has it's own article. And if you want a long article, check out Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince - Full Plot Summary or the horribly organized Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets - Full Plot Summary. - Hyad 22:43, July 25, 2005 (UTC)
That was me, I think, and I thought it was unnecessary information as not every character of every cartoon is listed with such detail. If there is consensusto have it then by all means, but that was why I did it. The fact that someone put alot of time into it isn't a reason in and of itself right? I just felt that it was more information than was needed. Maybe a section called minor characters with just they're names without so much information? I just felt hte article was much more streamlined adn better looking after the edits, but I will defer to the majority here. Gator1 13:02, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
I have started editing and improving the King of the Hill wikiquote page. I have tried putting a link to the King of the Hill quote page but it links to the T.V. Series. Whoever started the article originally didn't add the T.V. series part. Now it won't link. If someone can correct this that would be awesome. I would hate to have to start all over just to tack on the T.V. series at the end. -- Guitarist6987876 02:56, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
Awesome! I am new at editing, so some things are still a mystery. Thanks for helping me out.-- Guitarist6987876 15:32, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the advice. I have been reading on here for over a year; it never hit me to get a name. -- Guitarist6987876 23:43, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
It is believed that the fictional town of Arlen, Texas is a combination of two actual towns located near Dallas, Texas. The city of Garland, Texas(located just north of Dallas) and the city of Arlington, Texas(located between Dallas and Fort Worth). Combining the two city names comes up with Arlen, Texas.
The minor characters should stay because Wikipedia has to try to be as informative as possible. The "delete everything that is non-notable" policy is ridiculous.
That is actually the epolicy. Things that are non-notable shouldn't be here. You might think it's ridiculopus, but that is the policy. I deleted all that info because it is non-notable and takes up too much space on the page. We should be careful not too turn these pages into long pages packed with every piece of informatiuon we possible can. That's just not how it's done here and will earn this page a clean up tag if we're not careful. If the polcy in Wikipedia were that all information including non-notable info gets ont he apgges, this place would turn to pot really quick. Now I deleted all that info a LONG time ago and no one complained. I vote the following not notable info be removed:
Anyway,you asked why and I've explained. I would ask Remington not to add any more deleted info wthout first discussing it as it's just cluttering up the page with info that might be removed anyway after other people have their say.
What does everyone else think? Gator (talk) 19:46, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
The information does not have to be deleted, but for the welfare of the article, there could be a List of characters in King of the Hill article, as many, many characters, that only appear for a few frames in each episode, are reused. Jimmy the Racetrack Driver, for example, and the mother of the "Flying Hawaiian" later is revealed to be working as a car insurance salesman, selling to Hank. All of Hank's co-workers consistantly reappear, too. Link to the newly created list under the Characters section, which would only discuss the Hill, Gribble, Souphanosan--that family I can't spell---and Hank's friends in the alley. Out of all characters, those are the most major characters. Toothpaste 00:22, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
Cool, wht do you think of all the informaiton concerning the "true" location of Arlen? Gator (talk) 13:25, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
Keep, but not as a list. Turn it into a few paragraphs of straight writing, as lists tend to look tacky in these situations. Toothpaste 23:31, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
I have reason to beleive that Remington's edits reverting my edits were made in bad faith (see his user and talk pages). I made those edits a long time ago with no protests and I belive that the clues to the location of Arlen and the list of minor characters (many of whom are only in one episode) takes up a ton of space for next to worthless information. I just wanted to let everyone know. Gator (talk) 13:46, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
Deleting this information is made in bad faith. All this information should stay. I hate the tiny pathetic version of the page. Werxaddamill. Your welfare bill. 15:56, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
You're entitled to like one version over the other, but there was nothing in bad faith about my edits, Remington is a known vandal (now blocked indefinately) and I did not believe that his edits were in good faith or in the best interest of the article. Please leave this a that. Gator (talk) 16:28, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
Is the "Disc format" section OK with everyone? Should I add more detail about the extras, or will the current tables suffice for the article? Wezzo 18:44, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
"There are political and social undertones to many episodes, many of which generally ridicule the 'liberal' side of pertinent American issues." "This presents the Republican criticism that an oversized welfare state creates laziness and hinders productivity." "This episode ridicules both extensive business regulation (which Republicans tend to oppose), and the absurd technicalities that an enormous federal government entails (another Republican criticism)."
Liberals, hippies, and the politically correct are equal targets of the subtle social satire, but I wouldn't call the show specifically sympathetic towards Republicans, it's clearly centered around lampooning the socially conservative, middle class outlook on life, although essentially every character is portrayed in a sympathetic light. I'd say the show is equally disparaging to both liberals and conservatives, and some of the former is a comment on conservatives' perception of liberals. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.23.48.38 ( talk • contribs) 18:58, January 4, 2006 (UTC)
I was just reading and I whole-heartedly agree. The article goes over Hank's "by the book" lifestyle, which is clearly created to ridicule many conservative's view on life. Someone needs to fix up this seciton of the article. _mich 02:02, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
With the main characters (the Hills and Gribbles) being members of Arlen First Methodist, is Bill also a member or is he Catholic? Abstrakt
It could also be argued that he goes to Arlen First Methodist just to be around everyone else. He is a lonely man, and has done stuff like that before (I believe it is in the first season that he's at a stop smoking group, despite the fact that he doesn't smoke.) We may never find out. Robotshuffle 03:47, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone else think that this section is a bit overdone? I think it could benefit from a good reduction. It's got to the point where every clue is on their and it's just a jumble of speculation and useless information. Also, whatever happened to the part that said that the town is supposed to be from "nowhere" or somethign like that? Why was that removed? Thoughts before I have a go at it? Gator (talk) 21:27, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
Anyone? Gator (talk) 13:59, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
Part of this section is incorrect, as Mike Judge was born in Ecuador,and was raised on New Mexico. He never lived in Garland, TX. 24.160.99.140 06:04, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
Hmmmm....for some reason Arlen reminds me of Arlington, Texas. it kinda reminds me of it for some reason...--
Mr.Somebody
17:20, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
I think the section regarding Arlen's possible real location is noteworthy. While it doesn't necessarily need to include every tiny clue scattered throughout the show, it is interesting and useful to someone reading the article. --
Milton
08:29, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
we don't really know if it will really end. because i read alot of news sources on the web that is saying that it will maybe come back for another season. Because of cancellation of Malcolm in the middle and That 70's show. Also there hasn't been an official announcement from FOX, it was just from Mr. Judge. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Th3darkforce ( talk • contribs) 16:49, January 22, 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone remember the episode where everyone spoke like Boomhauer except for Boomhauer? It is by far the funniest show ever made but I can not find it anywhere. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Acs54 ( talk • contribs) 09:21, 2 April 2006
Is there a section about backlash against this show? I tried finding it, but nothing about it. Would it be better if they do so?
Anyway, this show received heavy criticism because many assumed that it stereotypes everyone and everything in every single episode aired and produced. For example, young generations, blondes, ethnic groups, gays, etc. Does this sound reasonable? — 70.234.85.199 04:57, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
I wanted to point out that the band No Doubt and Sarah Michelle Gellar were both guest stars on King of the Hill (in separate episodes during the first few seasons). I'm not sure which episodes, though. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 146.244.188.30 ( talk • contribs) 11:19, May 10, 2006 (UTC)
According to IMDB, only former members of The Refreshments are given credit for the theme song, and not the US Bombs. Perhaps someone can prove me wrong? -- JWZurawski 00:35, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
This section is uncited, and it reads like a non-neutral POV and original research. I'm not really sure what to do about the section other than to start removing indivual uncited claims or take it down. -- Chris Griswold 05:44, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
It's a good example of what happens when Wikipedians start congratulating themselves in addition to the various interests they delight in. The simple fact of the matter is that the section is superfluous and rife with uncited (and uncitable) research that completely eschews the "no original research" tenet. I highly suggest taking it down, but I'll at least see if anything can be salvaged from it. Charles M. Reed 23:01, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
The continuity errors listed on the page are all plot errors, that is, they deal with errors in the fiction world (see Continuity (fiction). Some people seem to want to add other kinds. I'm proposing a vote on whether the article should only have plot errors, or should include all three kinds. If the latter, I think a seperate page should be added (List of Continuity Errors in King of the Hill) or something like that. -- Milton 20:08, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Any particular reason why my item on Dale's changing voice was deleted? Vidor 00:48, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
I vote that this entire section be removed from the article. The Simpsons doesn't have a continuity error section, Family Guy doesn't have one, neither do Beavis and Butt-head, Futurama, American Dad!, on and on. In fact, I've been looking, and I can't find any animated shows that do. Hence, why should this one? There are far too many, anyway. -- Milton 22:32, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
I still think the entire section should be removed. "Trivia" is "Dale's father was played by so-an-so, who also played so-and-so, the father to the character who was also voiced by Dale's voice person." Continuity errors shouldn't be here. -- Milton 05:43, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
I'll be deleting this section by the end of the day, according to the voting that has been going on for 3 weeks. -- Milton 21:53, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
I think the new triva section looks A-OK. NitfromZ 17:41, 23 August 2006 (UTC) Someone completely nuked a couple of sections. I reverted the changes to add back the missing info. :) 71.56.86.252 17:48, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
I added the citation needed tag to this trivia item because I can't remember which episode identified the truck as a 1993 model year Ford Ranger. — EagleOne\ Talk 14:08, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
There is nothing listing these. There is a link to the page, but if you click on you you're just redirected to a list of characters. There's no real list for this. -- Milton 22:23, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
"The creators take advantage of the series' format by featuring narrative elements that might cost significantly more if done in a live-action series."
Like what? -- Shanedidona 14:47, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
I thought the Hills were methodist, not Catholic, as Peggy stated in the episode where she pretended to be a nun.
Should there be something about Tom Petty and his character Lucky?
I find that the show has a great deal of sexism (as a comedic theme). Perhaps this theme should be expanded by someone who knows more about the show.-- Kelly Chartier 05:22, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know the name of the show where the priest appears or his own name? -- Impaciente 08:45, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
I just watched that episode when Ted Wasonasong invited Hank to join Nine Rivers. Kahn says he's Chinese, yet in another episode, he and Mr. Ho scold Kahn for forgetting about his Lao roots, while they haven't. So what are they, Chinese or Lao?-- DethFromAbove 01:49, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
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Please leave the character order as it is now with all of the Souphanousinphones together, the four alley guys together, the Hills together, and so on. It simply makes more sense this way. If you wish to change simply state why and how it would make more sense, otherwise please leave it as is.
Does anyone think this should remain in the "animated children's series" category? It isn't really a children's show. -jules991
Boomhauer's first name has never been revealed on the show. Several websites list his first name as "Jeff," but this has no basis in the series. As such the article title and link name were changed from "Jeff Boomhauer" to "Boomhauer." -Lockeheed 18:37, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)
This article really should be cleaned up. A brief lisitng of the main characters is important, but any further mentioning of less significant characters should probably be saved for a seperate article. Perhaps more background on the show and its roots in popular culture and its basis on Mike Judge's own personal history would be apropriate.
It seems ok. Look at the Seinfeld article and it's various expansion pages ( Seinfeld characters and culture and List of Seinfeld episodes) if you want to see how an article should be split up. I know the King of the Hill page isn't quite as long though. I mean, even Festivus has it's own article. And if you want a long article, check out Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince - Full Plot Summary or the horribly organized Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets - Full Plot Summary. - Hyad 22:43, July 25, 2005 (UTC)
That was me, I think, and I thought it was unnecessary information as not every character of every cartoon is listed with such detail. If there is consensusto have it then by all means, but that was why I did it. The fact that someone put alot of time into it isn't a reason in and of itself right? I just felt that it was more information than was needed. Maybe a section called minor characters with just they're names without so much information? I just felt hte article was much more streamlined adn better looking after the edits, but I will defer to the majority here. Gator1 13:02, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
I have started editing and improving the King of the Hill wikiquote page. I have tried putting a link to the King of the Hill quote page but it links to the T.V. Series. Whoever started the article originally didn't add the T.V. series part. Now it won't link. If someone can correct this that would be awesome. I would hate to have to start all over just to tack on the T.V. series at the end. -- Guitarist6987876 02:56, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
Awesome! I am new at editing, so some things are still a mystery. Thanks for helping me out.-- Guitarist6987876 15:32, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the advice. I have been reading on here for over a year; it never hit me to get a name. -- Guitarist6987876 23:43, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
It is believed that the fictional town of Arlen, Texas is a combination of two actual towns located near Dallas, Texas. The city of Garland, Texas(located just north of Dallas) and the city of Arlington, Texas(located between Dallas and Fort Worth). Combining the two city names comes up with Arlen, Texas.
The minor characters should stay because Wikipedia has to try to be as informative as possible. The "delete everything that is non-notable" policy is ridiculous.
That is actually the epolicy. Things that are non-notable shouldn't be here. You might think it's ridiculopus, but that is the policy. I deleted all that info because it is non-notable and takes up too much space on the page. We should be careful not too turn these pages into long pages packed with every piece of informatiuon we possible can. That's just not how it's done here and will earn this page a clean up tag if we're not careful. If the polcy in Wikipedia were that all information including non-notable info gets ont he apgges, this place would turn to pot really quick. Now I deleted all that info a LONG time ago and no one complained. I vote the following not notable info be removed:
Anyway,you asked why and I've explained. I would ask Remington not to add any more deleted info wthout first discussing it as it's just cluttering up the page with info that might be removed anyway after other people have their say.
What does everyone else think? Gator (talk) 19:46, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
The information does not have to be deleted, but for the welfare of the article, there could be a List of characters in King of the Hill article, as many, many characters, that only appear for a few frames in each episode, are reused. Jimmy the Racetrack Driver, for example, and the mother of the "Flying Hawaiian" later is revealed to be working as a car insurance salesman, selling to Hank. All of Hank's co-workers consistantly reappear, too. Link to the newly created list under the Characters section, which would only discuss the Hill, Gribble, Souphanosan--that family I can't spell---and Hank's friends in the alley. Out of all characters, those are the most major characters. Toothpaste 00:22, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
Cool, wht do you think of all the informaiton concerning the "true" location of Arlen? Gator (talk) 13:25, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
Keep, but not as a list. Turn it into a few paragraphs of straight writing, as lists tend to look tacky in these situations. Toothpaste 23:31, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
I have reason to beleive that Remington's edits reverting my edits were made in bad faith (see his user and talk pages). I made those edits a long time ago with no protests and I belive that the clues to the location of Arlen and the list of minor characters (many of whom are only in one episode) takes up a ton of space for next to worthless information. I just wanted to let everyone know. Gator (talk) 13:46, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
Deleting this information is made in bad faith. All this information should stay. I hate the tiny pathetic version of the page. Werxaddamill. Your welfare bill. 15:56, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
You're entitled to like one version over the other, but there was nothing in bad faith about my edits, Remington is a known vandal (now blocked indefinately) and I did not believe that his edits were in good faith or in the best interest of the article. Please leave this a that. Gator (talk) 16:28, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
Is the "Disc format" section OK with everyone? Should I add more detail about the extras, or will the current tables suffice for the article? Wezzo 18:44, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
"There are political and social undertones to many episodes, many of which generally ridicule the 'liberal' side of pertinent American issues." "This presents the Republican criticism that an oversized welfare state creates laziness and hinders productivity." "This episode ridicules both extensive business regulation (which Republicans tend to oppose), and the absurd technicalities that an enormous federal government entails (another Republican criticism)."
Liberals, hippies, and the politically correct are equal targets of the subtle social satire, but I wouldn't call the show specifically sympathetic towards Republicans, it's clearly centered around lampooning the socially conservative, middle class outlook on life, although essentially every character is portrayed in a sympathetic light. I'd say the show is equally disparaging to both liberals and conservatives, and some of the former is a comment on conservatives' perception of liberals. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.23.48.38 ( talk • contribs) 18:58, January 4, 2006 (UTC)
I was just reading and I whole-heartedly agree. The article goes over Hank's "by the book" lifestyle, which is clearly created to ridicule many conservative's view on life. Someone needs to fix up this seciton of the article. _mich 02:02, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
With the main characters (the Hills and Gribbles) being members of Arlen First Methodist, is Bill also a member or is he Catholic? Abstrakt
It could also be argued that he goes to Arlen First Methodist just to be around everyone else. He is a lonely man, and has done stuff like that before (I believe it is in the first season that he's at a stop smoking group, despite the fact that he doesn't smoke.) We may never find out. Robotshuffle 03:47, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone else think that this section is a bit overdone? I think it could benefit from a good reduction. It's got to the point where every clue is on their and it's just a jumble of speculation and useless information. Also, whatever happened to the part that said that the town is supposed to be from "nowhere" or somethign like that? Why was that removed? Thoughts before I have a go at it? Gator (talk) 21:27, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
Anyone? Gator (talk) 13:59, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
Part of this section is incorrect, as Mike Judge was born in Ecuador,and was raised on New Mexico. He never lived in Garland, TX. 24.160.99.140 06:04, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
Hmmmm....for some reason Arlen reminds me of Arlington, Texas. it kinda reminds me of it for some reason...--
Mr.Somebody
17:20, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
I think the section regarding Arlen's possible real location is noteworthy. While it doesn't necessarily need to include every tiny clue scattered throughout the show, it is interesting and useful to someone reading the article. --
Milton
08:29, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
we don't really know if it will really end. because i read alot of news sources on the web that is saying that it will maybe come back for another season. Because of cancellation of Malcolm in the middle and That 70's show. Also there hasn't been an official announcement from FOX, it was just from Mr. Judge. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Th3darkforce ( talk • contribs) 16:49, January 22, 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone remember the episode where everyone spoke like Boomhauer except for Boomhauer? It is by far the funniest show ever made but I can not find it anywhere. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Acs54 ( talk • contribs) 09:21, 2 April 2006
Is there a section about backlash against this show? I tried finding it, but nothing about it. Would it be better if they do so?
Anyway, this show received heavy criticism because many assumed that it stereotypes everyone and everything in every single episode aired and produced. For example, young generations, blondes, ethnic groups, gays, etc. Does this sound reasonable? — 70.234.85.199 04:57, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
I wanted to point out that the band No Doubt and Sarah Michelle Gellar were both guest stars on King of the Hill (in separate episodes during the first few seasons). I'm not sure which episodes, though. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 146.244.188.30 ( talk • contribs) 11:19, May 10, 2006 (UTC)
According to IMDB, only former members of The Refreshments are given credit for the theme song, and not the US Bombs. Perhaps someone can prove me wrong? -- JWZurawski 00:35, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
This section is uncited, and it reads like a non-neutral POV and original research. I'm not really sure what to do about the section other than to start removing indivual uncited claims or take it down. -- Chris Griswold 05:44, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
It's a good example of what happens when Wikipedians start congratulating themselves in addition to the various interests they delight in. The simple fact of the matter is that the section is superfluous and rife with uncited (and uncitable) research that completely eschews the "no original research" tenet. I highly suggest taking it down, but I'll at least see if anything can be salvaged from it. Charles M. Reed 23:01, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
The continuity errors listed on the page are all plot errors, that is, they deal with errors in the fiction world (see Continuity (fiction). Some people seem to want to add other kinds. I'm proposing a vote on whether the article should only have plot errors, or should include all three kinds. If the latter, I think a seperate page should be added (List of Continuity Errors in King of the Hill) or something like that. -- Milton 20:08, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Any particular reason why my item on Dale's changing voice was deleted? Vidor 00:48, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
I vote that this entire section be removed from the article. The Simpsons doesn't have a continuity error section, Family Guy doesn't have one, neither do Beavis and Butt-head, Futurama, American Dad!, on and on. In fact, I've been looking, and I can't find any animated shows that do. Hence, why should this one? There are far too many, anyway. -- Milton 22:32, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
I still think the entire section should be removed. "Trivia" is "Dale's father was played by so-an-so, who also played so-and-so, the father to the character who was also voiced by Dale's voice person." Continuity errors shouldn't be here. -- Milton 05:43, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
I'll be deleting this section by the end of the day, according to the voting that has been going on for 3 weeks. -- Milton 21:53, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
I think the new triva section looks A-OK. NitfromZ 17:41, 23 August 2006 (UTC) Someone completely nuked a couple of sections. I reverted the changes to add back the missing info. :) 71.56.86.252 17:48, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
I added the citation needed tag to this trivia item because I can't remember which episode identified the truck as a 1993 model year Ford Ranger. — EagleOne\ Talk 14:08, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
There is nothing listing these. There is a link to the page, but if you click on you you're just redirected to a list of characters. There's no real list for this. -- Milton 22:23, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
"The creators take advantage of the series' format by featuring narrative elements that might cost significantly more if done in a live-action series."
Like what? -- Shanedidona 14:47, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
I thought the Hills were methodist, not Catholic, as Peggy stated in the episode where she pretended to be a nun.
Should there be something about Tom Petty and his character Lucky?
I find that the show has a great deal of sexism (as a comedic theme). Perhaps this theme should be expanded by someone who knows more about the show.-- Kelly Chartier 05:22, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know the name of the show where the priest appears or his own name? -- Impaciente 08:45, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
I just watched that episode when Ted Wasonasong invited Hank to join Nine Rivers. Kahn says he's Chinese, yet in another episode, he and Mr. Ho scold Kahn for forgetting about his Lao roots, while they haven't. So what are they, Chinese or Lao?-- DethFromAbove 01:49, 7 December 2006 (UTC)