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I think we've jumped the gun on renaming these stations. The memo about the approval of the name changes was November 3, 2011, yes, but as I understand it, they don't go into effect until June 2012. This particular one is minor. But this came to my attention because of the change of "New York Ave/Florida Ave/Gallaudet U" to "NoMa." (I saw it in the article on Artomatic.) As of this morning, when I rode to work, the signs at that station showed the old name, and the operator of the train I was on was still announcing the old name. Admittedly, this is an operator who, until recently, was announcing "Silver Springs," with an "s." But as of 30 seconds ago, Metro's own website was still using the old names. 140.147.236.195 ( talk) 14:42, 15 November 2011 (UTC)Stephen Kosciesza
I knew I'd find something more concrete about when a rename becomes effective. Here is the press release from the 2004 renaming, which renamed three stations: [1]. There, Metro is explicit in saying that the stations were renamed upon the board action. No reason to believe that this was not again the case in the 2011 renaming. In the 2004 renaming, signage did not go up for six months or more after the renames happened, but the names were effective as of board action. SchuminWeb ( Talk) 19:35, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
It seems to me, this has been decided because one individual has decided it--regardless of arguments to the contrary (HIS source is authoritative; other sources are Original Research). I've been editing as an IP user for several years. I've never really seen much reason to register. But now, I'm seriously thinking of doing that, in order to be able change things back to what is patently the correct situation. Since this one Decider hasn't noticed the last several arguments against his unilateral decision, I'm guessing he won't notice that, either. 140.147.236.195 ( talk) 20:03, 4 January 2012 (UTC)Stephen Kosciesza
To change the names when the signs are changed without a source would be original research, which is prohibited.
The station was originally named "Union Station-Visitor Center" but when the National Visitor Center there failed, it was renamed Union Station. In fact, one or two pylons still read "Union Station-Visitor Center," and a number of older stations still display this name on signage.
[Emphasis mine]
OK, I'm now a registered Wikipedian.
I've been arguing that it's premature to change the names of some of the Metro stations based on that Metro Press release of a couple of months ago. Now, I've found the basis to keep the old names for the time being.
On the project page for the DC Metro, under a subsection for "Naming Conventions," it says
Wikipedia:Metro stations: Use Station Name (WMATA station), as written on the official Metro system map.
I've looked. The official Metro Map still has the old station names.
It was argued that the press release was as good as any earlier one about name changes, and that to go by such details as the signs on the stations would amount to Original Research. But I still maintain that the press release strongly implied that the name changes are to go into effect in June 2012, and that reference to the official map is not OR. Now I have it in black and white that the official map is supposed to be the arbiter of the names of the stations. UporzÄ…dnicki ( talk) 18:24, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: Move. Cúchullain t/ c 15:53, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
King Street – Old Town Station →
King Street–Old Town Station – I think that
King Street–Old Town Station without spaces is correct per
MOS:ENDASH. But
User:Epicgenius dose not think so. Refer to
User talk:Epicgenius#MOS:ENDASH. This station name is a compound when the connection might be expressed with "to," "versus," "and," or "between." Give me the definite manual of style for
Category:Washington Metro. Furthermore, I submit
Forest Hills–71st Avenue (IND Queens Boulevard Line) of
Category:New York City Subway stations to here.
Sawol (
talk) 09:20, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
However, as the NYC Subway has different naming conventions, I oppose moving Forest Hills – 71st Avenue (IND Queens Boulevard Line) unless other articles, such as Briarwood – Van Wyck Boulevard (IND Queens Boulevard Line), Kew Gardens – Union Turnpike (IND Queens Boulevard Line), and Jamaica – 179th Street (IND Queens Boulevard Line) are similarly moved. That issue can be brought up independently at WT:NYCS, since there are 30 articles in Category:New York City Subway stations in Queens, New York with spaced endash, 17 in Category:New York City Subway stations in Brooklyn, 67 in Category:New York City Subway stations in Manhattan, and 17 in Category:New York City Subway stations in the Bronx; you'd need to move 131 articles in total. Epic Genius ( talk) 13:36, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
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This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 15:48, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
I think we've jumped the gun on renaming these stations. The memo about the approval of the name changes was November 3, 2011, yes, but as I understand it, they don't go into effect until June 2012. This particular one is minor. But this came to my attention because of the change of "New York Ave/Florida Ave/Gallaudet U" to "NoMa." (I saw it in the article on Artomatic.) As of this morning, when I rode to work, the signs at that station showed the old name, and the operator of the train I was on was still announcing the old name. Admittedly, this is an operator who, until recently, was announcing "Silver Springs," with an "s." But as of 30 seconds ago, Metro's own website was still using the old names. 140.147.236.195 ( talk) 14:42, 15 November 2011 (UTC)Stephen Kosciesza
I knew I'd find something more concrete about when a rename becomes effective. Here is the press release from the 2004 renaming, which renamed three stations: [1]. There, Metro is explicit in saying that the stations were renamed upon the board action. No reason to believe that this was not again the case in the 2011 renaming. In the 2004 renaming, signage did not go up for six months or more after the renames happened, but the names were effective as of board action. SchuminWeb ( Talk) 19:35, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
It seems to me, this has been decided because one individual has decided it--regardless of arguments to the contrary (HIS source is authoritative; other sources are Original Research). I've been editing as an IP user for several years. I've never really seen much reason to register. But now, I'm seriously thinking of doing that, in order to be able change things back to what is patently the correct situation. Since this one Decider hasn't noticed the last several arguments against his unilateral decision, I'm guessing he won't notice that, either. 140.147.236.195 ( talk) 20:03, 4 January 2012 (UTC)Stephen Kosciesza
To change the names when the signs are changed without a source would be original research, which is prohibited.
The station was originally named "Union Station-Visitor Center" but when the National Visitor Center there failed, it was renamed Union Station. In fact, one or two pylons still read "Union Station-Visitor Center," and a number of older stations still display this name on signage.
[Emphasis mine]
OK, I'm now a registered Wikipedian.
I've been arguing that it's premature to change the names of some of the Metro stations based on that Metro Press release of a couple of months ago. Now, I've found the basis to keep the old names for the time being.
On the project page for the DC Metro, under a subsection for "Naming Conventions," it says
Wikipedia:Metro stations: Use Station Name (WMATA station), as written on the official Metro system map.
I've looked. The official Metro Map still has the old station names.
It was argued that the press release was as good as any earlier one about name changes, and that to go by such details as the signs on the stations would amount to Original Research. But I still maintain that the press release strongly implied that the name changes are to go into effect in June 2012, and that reference to the official map is not OR. Now I have it in black and white that the official map is supposed to be the arbiter of the names of the stations. UporzÄ…dnicki ( talk) 18:24, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Pentagon (WMATA station) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 18:15, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Move. Cúchullain t/ c 15:53, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
King Street – Old Town Station →
King Street–Old Town Station – I think that
King Street–Old Town Station without spaces is correct per
MOS:ENDASH. But
User:Epicgenius dose not think so. Refer to
User talk:Epicgenius#MOS:ENDASH. This station name is a compound when the connection might be expressed with "to," "versus," "and," or "between." Give me the definite manual of style for
Category:Washington Metro. Furthermore, I submit
Forest Hills–71st Avenue (IND Queens Boulevard Line) of
Category:New York City Subway stations to here.
Sawol (
talk) 09:20, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
However, as the NYC Subway has different naming conventions, I oppose moving Forest Hills – 71st Avenue (IND Queens Boulevard Line) unless other articles, such as Briarwood – Van Wyck Boulevard (IND Queens Boulevard Line), Kew Gardens – Union Turnpike (IND Queens Boulevard Line), and Jamaica – 179th Street (IND Queens Boulevard Line) are similarly moved. That issue can be brought up independently at WT:NYCS, since there are 30 articles in Category:New York City Subway stations in Queens, New York with spaced endash, 17 in Category:New York City Subway stations in Brooklyn, 67 in Category:New York City Subway stations in Manhattan, and 17 in Category:New York City Subway stations in the Bronx; you'd need to move 131 articles in total. Epic Genius ( talk) 13:36, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
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