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The link should go to http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bewegungswissenschaft, because "Kinesiologie" is applied Kinesiology in german. Thanks 78.54.132.94 ( talk) 18:13, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
As a practising Kinesiologist, I accept most of the description. I don't think the chart is necessary nor is the reference to the AK group. Kinesiologists are referred to by differently in different juridictions including Regulated, Certified, and Licensed. The core curriculum is acceptable only if the Motor Learning is added as a curricular requirement. Kinesiologue is the French variant of the English Kinesiology and is completely acceptable.
Ultimatley Kinesiology is as a discipline is the study of human movement with the foundations of study in Anatomy, Physiology, Motor Learning and Biomechanics. As a profession, kinesiology is applied to the enhancement of any human movement in any environment - be it work, recreation or at home. That explains the vast list of fields that evolve from kinesiology but it does not mean that a single Kinesiologist practices in all of those areas.
I would recommend you include the link to the Ontario Kinesiology Association. (www.oka.on.ca) they are in a process of being regulated with their Provincial government to become 'regulated'as a health profession. (January 29, 2007) AKin 64.228.37.160 02:29, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
I can't see the specificity of the kinesiology approach. It pretends to be rooted on many sciences. What is the cursus to be a kinesiologue. Where is the scientific material about that "science". I propose a rewriting of that page that gives facts and not mere propaganda. I propose a suppression of the page in the mean time. Payrard 12:21, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Payrard, it is a simply defined study with a broad range of other studies encorporated into it. Kinesiology is the study of movement of the body, as clearly defined in the article. I cannot see how one can mistakenly think that some "kinesiologue" is trying to fool the world into thinking that physics, biology, chemistry, and anatomy are all closely related to this subject. Are you unaware that physics is related to movement, and that biology, anatomy, and chemistry are all important to understanding the body? If you think about it, even history (through sport such as baseball or the olympics) and business (a ridiculous amount of money is spent on health equipment each year) could be at least vaguely associated with this study. It's fine if you want to say that the study encompasses a wide array of seemingly (keyword: seemingly) unrelated subjects, but I don't think that validates your accusation of propaganda or the need for a suppression of the page. Figharrrburt 03:28, 21 Sep 2005
Hi. I'am chilean Kinesiology, (in spanish "Kinesiologo") but in our country our profession is like Physical Therapy. I'm absolutly agree with the term of page. Kinesiology are a discipline who help Physical Therapi, Occupational Therapu, Physical Educators. I miss the name of Nils Posse and a breif history of Kinesiology, like discipline and the origin of the word. rrojo@med.uchile.cl
The basic principles of Kinesiology as applied to a clinical setting like in rahabilitation medicine, physical therapy, sports medicine and/or athletic training fundamentaly refers to its appllication whenever it is necessary in order to help a particular patient and/or athlete reach its maximum potential in order to be a more productive individual or to be a more conditioned athlete as possible. Physical therapists in general certainly do have an extensive training in regards to kinesiology that can be used in treatments of theirs patients (but of course not as extensive as licensed kinesiologist). have a nice day guys and god bless Charlie alpha ( talk) —Preceding comment was added at 12:37, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
From my experience,these wikipedia articles agree in both terminology and theory! I have studied kinesiology from several sources, and have some books on the subject!
I came to this page, looking for jargon,for a new website i am planning! It is a website based on motion,and i knew wikipedia would have the correct terminology!
I am a student working on my Masters in Kinesiology in California. I am very greatful you are discussing these issues. I would like to assert that the origins, that is the beginnings of Kinesiology stem from the original writings on papyrus leaves where Patanjali describes the beginnings of human movement, the channels of flow required for motor development and how the body and the mind are linked. These oroginal writings then formed the basis for tai Chi, martial arts, yoga, and all forms of human movement which have come after. Any thoughts? bradleyrichmond@yahoo.com
I don't think the "Facts about kinesiology" section belongs in the article. First off, the whole article consists of "facts about kinesiology", so the heading is unhelpful. But more importantly, this is an example of child abuse that doesn't have to do with Kensiology in general. In the case mentioned, the child died of malnutrition and pneumonia because his parents refused to take him to a hospital and give him proper medical care. The fact that they also practiced kenesiology is not relevant. Also, the couple in question were French - but would this section be appropriate in the France article, in a section called "Facts about the French"? This is why I'm removing this section again. – Quadell ( talk) ( bounties) 13:28, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
I see. I suppose if this affected the way Applied Kinesiology is viewed in Europe, then it may be noteworthy for that reason. It's just important not to take one barely-noteworthy situation and emphasise it in order to cast a practice in a negative light.
Incidently, I don't like Applied Kinesiology or any other pseudoscience, as I think it causes more harm than help. But we have to be careful to follow the NPOV policy. – Quadell ( talk) ( bounties) 21:38, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
There's a problem in this article, in that it fails to distinguish Kinesiology from Applied Kinesiology (AK). It's confusing, since in Europe Kinesiology is not called this, and AK is generally just called Kinesiology there - but in English-speaking countries they are two very different things. Kinesiology is basically the study of human motion, having to do with "physical education" programs and the like. It's purely a scientific field of study, with articles written in peer-reviewed journals and the like, and it makes no untested claims. AK, on the other hand, is a pseudo-science that claims that a practitioner can diagnose illness and treat disease by feeling the way people's muscles move. Often, the practitioner will ask a subject to hold something (e.g. sugar) in his right hand, and will press down on the hand and "feel" the way the muscle reacts, in order to tell whether the patient should avoid sugar or not. These claims have never been shown effective in a clinical setting.
These two need to be described separately. I'll try to fix the article when I get a chance. – Quadell ( talk) ( bounties) 21:38, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
"It should not be confused with the pseudoscience Applied kinesiology (AK)"
Directly referring to AK as a pseudoscience is definitely not a neutral point of view.
This article is biased against the administration of Applied Kinesiology. Applied Kinesiology is practiced by many qualified people with excellent results. To dismiss it as a pseudoscience requires a constricted worldview and is indicative of a limited viewpoint of modern alternative health care.
Whether or not we agree that applied kinesiology is pseudoscience, we can agree that such discussion should not take place on the "kinesiology" site. Mention of and linking to "AK" is appropriate. Smr1 14:51, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
I suggest that the term "altrenative medicine" is the most decriptive for AK: for those who believe in it's effectiveness, an alternative medical process has the connotation of better or less harmful medicine, whereas those disinclined to believe in it, "alternative medicine" has the connotation of "psuedoscience".
I also agree that the term "Kinesiology" needs to be disambiguated to point to either this article or the "Applied Kinesiology" article depending on what one is looking for. Walidoo 10:58, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
kinesiology does not actually exist —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.197.171.254 ( talk) 18:44, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
true story —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.197.171.254 ( talk) 18:46, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
The whole entry on this topic is completely ridiculous and completely biased toward the field of kinesiology. It is considered by conventional medicine to be farcical, and think you have to use conventional medicine as the bench mark. To say that a field such as kinesiology, which is based upon fairytales rather than true science, is "the science of human movement" is ridiculous. The placebo effect is a very powerful tool indeed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bucko2007 ( talk • contribs) 14:27, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
I ask that you please disengage from making unproductive edits at Kinesiology. You seem to associate it with AK; the two are not to be confused. Basically, the kin program evolved from a Bachelors in physical education, but rather than it be so specific to sports; the curriculum was broadened to include more biomechanics, motor learning, physiology, ergonomics and anything else related to MSK and movement. So, I'd ask that you discuss your changes on Talk first, as continued unproductive edits will be seen as disruptive and could warrant the attention of an admin. CorticoSpinal ( talk) 22:16, 21 April 2008 (UTC) I only want to say that this article from wikipedia limits it self mainly to critize, I have not got any impartial information about this topic, for example how it is suppose to work, and if there is some study that support it (not only them that do not support it). After reading it I had to read another article anyway because I was still in doubt about what kinesiology is. I suppose you will now now atack me and acuse me of many things, save your time. You only get that less and less people read wikipedia. The "scientific" encyclopedia.
Can we have some external links? Ie. where would I go to read more about kinesiology; say I wanted an overview of the subject that I could read in 10 minutes to half an hour.
Thanks,
-- TimNelson ( talk) 07:22, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Not all Kinesiologists in Canada have Bachelor of Science Degrees... I for instance have a Bachelor of Kinesiology Degree (McMaster University), and others may have Bachelor of Arts Degrees. Perhaps this clarification should be reflected in the main page, which states that Kinesiologists have Bachelor of Science Degrees... With that said, my Bachelor of Kinesiology degree may as well be a B.Sc degree, as it has a strong science foundation in anatomy, physiology, biomechanics, and motor/neural control... Thanks all :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.204.11.26 ( talk) 17:20, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
A new article Kinesiology tape was begun, probably motivated by a newbie editor with advertising/promotional interests in mind. That said, the subject may be notable to stand on its own as an article, though the current article could use much more work (more references, de-spamming, et cetera). Thoughts? Suggestions? The more the merrier. -- Levine2112 discuss 03:53, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
I agree with this. The only thing it has in common is the word "kinesiology" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.155.201.210 ( talk) 19:32, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
The section "Physical activity" is ill-supported and well-nigh incomprehensible.
It asserts that there is a "large debate centred on the technical definition of physical activity". On the face of it this is implausible, since "physical activity" (by inference, human physical activity) is a perfectly straightforward phrase. But even if we accept the distinction the section seems to be trying to make, it is far from clear that this is a relevant or notable contribution to this article, or a major feature of kinesiology as actually practised.
Furthermore, this sections very poorly attested. For there to be a "large debate" about something, I would expect to see a number of references which disagree with each other. When, in fact, the references in this section are all to the same book. Is the book debating with itself ?
I think the section should be removed. It doesn't add anything to the article and serves only to provide confusion. By its length it dominates the article.
- Ian Jackson 9 September 2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.13.197.229 ( talk) 13:49, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Language evolves and in different countries the word "Kinesiology" can connote very different meanings. It is presumptuous to assume that it means the same thing in different countries. In North America, and in Canada specifically, the vast majority of universities have a department or Faculty with the word "Kinesiology" included in its title. Sometimes it is Kinesiology & Physical Education or Kinesiology paired with other words (e.g. Recreation), sometimes it is only Kinesiology, sometimes it is Human Kinetics. The salient point is that language evolves and it is a fact that there is a difference between the meaning of the word "Kinesiology" depending on whether it refers to those who choose to call themselves "kinesiologists", or whether the reference is to what has evolved into the group of academic disciplines known as "Kinesiology". It is common in Canada to consider "Kinesiology" as the multi-disciplinary and inter-disciplinary study of human movement, involving the biophysical, psychological/behavioural, and socio-cultural study of the spectrum of human physical activity (PA). In that same context the PA spectrum spans inactivity (caused by a relatively sedentary lifestyle or disease or injury) through to high performance sports, and includes play and dance. There is an organization in Canada called the Canadian Council of University Physical Education and Kinesiology Administrators (CCUPEKA): the deans, directors, chairs of academic units at those universities that offer academic degree programs in Physical Education and/or Kinesiology. CCUPEKA accredits both Physical Education and Kinesiology programs and distinguishes between the two programs in their required accreditations pre-requisites. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.238.133.217 ( talk) 01:58, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
I removed some off-topic dialogue on the definition of physical activity. While it may be relevant to another page on physical activity, it does not help to describe Kinesiology. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.88.36.62 ( talk) 03:33, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
After reading this, I'm left with the questions: what exactly do they measure and why? "Muscle movement" is a very general term and could mean anything. -- 86.28.234.39 ( talk) 15:19, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
BullRangifer, HCA or anyone else:
While doing some research for another article ( Clara Gregory Baer, a student of Nils Posse) I came across the claim, not quite definitive, that Nils Posse might possibly be the first to have used the term. It would obviously be more useful if more definitive, but I hope the editors of this article will consider whether the article should include this mention.
See:
In addition, Posse published The Special Kinesiology of Educational Gymnastics.
That book is now PD, can be seen here
The book is also available as a pdf here
See also open library
It includes a nice photograph of Baron Nils Posse, who played an important role in the formative years of the subject matter. I am simply trying to ascertain whether Posse knew both Baer and Senda Berenson, so am unable to get sufficiently up to seep on this article to incorporate any of this material, but I hope other editors will find it useful.-- SPhilbrick (Talk) 14:05, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
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Not quite sure what's causing this, but under language in the sidebar, the Dansk link should be removed. It's removed from the Wikidate page ( https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q657632#sitelinks-wikipedia), but still showing up in the sidebar. To clarify, the Dansk link connects to a page dealing with applied kinesiology, which in Danish is called kinesiologi (same confusion as already evident on this Talk page). I hope someone can fix this - there may be other similar mistakes, but I'll only point out this one.
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In the 1970's, before the development of the term, field and post-secondary educational status that are today connected to "Kinesiology", another athletic tape was put on the market. Named "Kinesio tex tape" (Kinesis = movement), it's patent based on the single distinction that it was stretchable. A quick look at the 23 references listed on the "kinesiology tape" wikipedia page clearly show that intensive marketing, including the use of world-class athletes and athletic events (The Olympics) have supported the ongoing commercial success of this particular bandage material. Independent, prospective, statistically valid and verifiable scientific enquiry proving any unique benefits to this proprietory sticky tape are non-existant in the highly-regarded, peer-reviewed scientific literature.
The fact that this one particular product, among all the many items sold over the counter to aid human physiology, has been given the undeniable badge of legitimacy by appearing on the Kinesiology page in the same list of fields of study and practice that overlap with Kinesiology, including exercise physiology, physical therapy, neurology, and sport science. This list of 11 serious professions, ends with "kinesiology tape" - despite having no medically validated use, despite endless articles questioning it's efficacy, and uncovering the ongoing massive marketing effort that succussfully perpetuates the notion that a strip of stretchy fabric glued to the epidermis can magically produce significant benefits within tissue far below. I still remember, during my undergraduate years earning a B.Sc. (Kinesiology), we were taught that if there were in fact any benefit at all to athletic taping, the majority came through the belief system of the person wearing the tape: the placebo affect is real and can be very affective. This point is also made in the references appearing on the "kinesiology tape" page.
I support the appearance of a Wikipedia page, if providing factual, unbiased data about commercial products falks under Wikipedia's mandate, as it appears to.
I protest vigorously that the inclusion of "kinesiology tape" to the "See Also" list on the "Kinesiology" Wikipedia page! As a person who has made many (minor) edits of Wikipedia since about 2012, I know that there are people actively providing oversight to every type of change to the contents of every single Wikipedia page. I have to ask: how on earth was someone, intent on improving the profile (& profit) of the Kinesio corporation, able to add their product on to the Kinesiology page, and have it persist? PeacefulPlanet3 ( talk) 05:45, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
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The link should go to http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bewegungswissenschaft, because "Kinesiologie" is applied Kinesiology in german. Thanks 78.54.132.94 ( talk) 18:13, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
As a practising Kinesiologist, I accept most of the description. I don't think the chart is necessary nor is the reference to the AK group. Kinesiologists are referred to by differently in different juridictions including Regulated, Certified, and Licensed. The core curriculum is acceptable only if the Motor Learning is added as a curricular requirement. Kinesiologue is the French variant of the English Kinesiology and is completely acceptable.
Ultimatley Kinesiology is as a discipline is the study of human movement with the foundations of study in Anatomy, Physiology, Motor Learning and Biomechanics. As a profession, kinesiology is applied to the enhancement of any human movement in any environment - be it work, recreation or at home. That explains the vast list of fields that evolve from kinesiology but it does not mean that a single Kinesiologist practices in all of those areas.
I would recommend you include the link to the Ontario Kinesiology Association. (www.oka.on.ca) they are in a process of being regulated with their Provincial government to become 'regulated'as a health profession. (January 29, 2007) AKin 64.228.37.160 02:29, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
I can't see the specificity of the kinesiology approach. It pretends to be rooted on many sciences. What is the cursus to be a kinesiologue. Where is the scientific material about that "science". I propose a rewriting of that page that gives facts and not mere propaganda. I propose a suppression of the page in the mean time. Payrard 12:21, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Payrard, it is a simply defined study with a broad range of other studies encorporated into it. Kinesiology is the study of movement of the body, as clearly defined in the article. I cannot see how one can mistakenly think that some "kinesiologue" is trying to fool the world into thinking that physics, biology, chemistry, and anatomy are all closely related to this subject. Are you unaware that physics is related to movement, and that biology, anatomy, and chemistry are all important to understanding the body? If you think about it, even history (through sport such as baseball or the olympics) and business (a ridiculous amount of money is spent on health equipment each year) could be at least vaguely associated with this study. It's fine if you want to say that the study encompasses a wide array of seemingly (keyword: seemingly) unrelated subjects, but I don't think that validates your accusation of propaganda or the need for a suppression of the page. Figharrrburt 03:28, 21 Sep 2005
Hi. I'am chilean Kinesiology, (in spanish "Kinesiologo") but in our country our profession is like Physical Therapy. I'm absolutly agree with the term of page. Kinesiology are a discipline who help Physical Therapi, Occupational Therapu, Physical Educators. I miss the name of Nils Posse and a breif history of Kinesiology, like discipline and the origin of the word. rrojo@med.uchile.cl
The basic principles of Kinesiology as applied to a clinical setting like in rahabilitation medicine, physical therapy, sports medicine and/or athletic training fundamentaly refers to its appllication whenever it is necessary in order to help a particular patient and/or athlete reach its maximum potential in order to be a more productive individual or to be a more conditioned athlete as possible. Physical therapists in general certainly do have an extensive training in regards to kinesiology that can be used in treatments of theirs patients (but of course not as extensive as licensed kinesiologist). have a nice day guys and god bless Charlie alpha ( talk) —Preceding comment was added at 12:37, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
From my experience,these wikipedia articles agree in both terminology and theory! I have studied kinesiology from several sources, and have some books on the subject!
I came to this page, looking for jargon,for a new website i am planning! It is a website based on motion,and i knew wikipedia would have the correct terminology!
I am a student working on my Masters in Kinesiology in California. I am very greatful you are discussing these issues. I would like to assert that the origins, that is the beginnings of Kinesiology stem from the original writings on papyrus leaves where Patanjali describes the beginnings of human movement, the channels of flow required for motor development and how the body and the mind are linked. These oroginal writings then formed the basis for tai Chi, martial arts, yoga, and all forms of human movement which have come after. Any thoughts? bradleyrichmond@yahoo.com
I don't think the "Facts about kinesiology" section belongs in the article. First off, the whole article consists of "facts about kinesiology", so the heading is unhelpful. But more importantly, this is an example of child abuse that doesn't have to do with Kensiology in general. In the case mentioned, the child died of malnutrition and pneumonia because his parents refused to take him to a hospital and give him proper medical care. The fact that they also practiced kenesiology is not relevant. Also, the couple in question were French - but would this section be appropriate in the France article, in a section called "Facts about the French"? This is why I'm removing this section again. – Quadell ( talk) ( bounties) 13:28, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
I see. I suppose if this affected the way Applied Kinesiology is viewed in Europe, then it may be noteworthy for that reason. It's just important not to take one barely-noteworthy situation and emphasise it in order to cast a practice in a negative light.
Incidently, I don't like Applied Kinesiology or any other pseudoscience, as I think it causes more harm than help. But we have to be careful to follow the NPOV policy. – Quadell ( talk) ( bounties) 21:38, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
There's a problem in this article, in that it fails to distinguish Kinesiology from Applied Kinesiology (AK). It's confusing, since in Europe Kinesiology is not called this, and AK is generally just called Kinesiology there - but in English-speaking countries they are two very different things. Kinesiology is basically the study of human motion, having to do with "physical education" programs and the like. It's purely a scientific field of study, with articles written in peer-reviewed journals and the like, and it makes no untested claims. AK, on the other hand, is a pseudo-science that claims that a practitioner can diagnose illness and treat disease by feeling the way people's muscles move. Often, the practitioner will ask a subject to hold something (e.g. sugar) in his right hand, and will press down on the hand and "feel" the way the muscle reacts, in order to tell whether the patient should avoid sugar or not. These claims have never been shown effective in a clinical setting.
These two need to be described separately. I'll try to fix the article when I get a chance. – Quadell ( talk) ( bounties) 21:38, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
"It should not be confused with the pseudoscience Applied kinesiology (AK)"
Directly referring to AK as a pseudoscience is definitely not a neutral point of view.
This article is biased against the administration of Applied Kinesiology. Applied Kinesiology is practiced by many qualified people with excellent results. To dismiss it as a pseudoscience requires a constricted worldview and is indicative of a limited viewpoint of modern alternative health care.
Whether or not we agree that applied kinesiology is pseudoscience, we can agree that such discussion should not take place on the "kinesiology" site. Mention of and linking to "AK" is appropriate. Smr1 14:51, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
I suggest that the term "altrenative medicine" is the most decriptive for AK: for those who believe in it's effectiveness, an alternative medical process has the connotation of better or less harmful medicine, whereas those disinclined to believe in it, "alternative medicine" has the connotation of "psuedoscience".
I also agree that the term "Kinesiology" needs to be disambiguated to point to either this article or the "Applied Kinesiology" article depending on what one is looking for. Walidoo 10:58, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
kinesiology does not actually exist —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.197.171.254 ( talk) 18:44, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
true story —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.197.171.254 ( talk) 18:46, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
The whole entry on this topic is completely ridiculous and completely biased toward the field of kinesiology. It is considered by conventional medicine to be farcical, and think you have to use conventional medicine as the bench mark. To say that a field such as kinesiology, which is based upon fairytales rather than true science, is "the science of human movement" is ridiculous. The placebo effect is a very powerful tool indeed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bucko2007 ( talk • contribs) 14:27, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
I ask that you please disengage from making unproductive edits at Kinesiology. You seem to associate it with AK; the two are not to be confused. Basically, the kin program evolved from a Bachelors in physical education, but rather than it be so specific to sports; the curriculum was broadened to include more biomechanics, motor learning, physiology, ergonomics and anything else related to MSK and movement. So, I'd ask that you discuss your changes on Talk first, as continued unproductive edits will be seen as disruptive and could warrant the attention of an admin. CorticoSpinal ( talk) 22:16, 21 April 2008 (UTC) I only want to say that this article from wikipedia limits it self mainly to critize, I have not got any impartial information about this topic, for example how it is suppose to work, and if there is some study that support it (not only them that do not support it). After reading it I had to read another article anyway because I was still in doubt about what kinesiology is. I suppose you will now now atack me and acuse me of many things, save your time. You only get that less and less people read wikipedia. The "scientific" encyclopedia.
Can we have some external links? Ie. where would I go to read more about kinesiology; say I wanted an overview of the subject that I could read in 10 minutes to half an hour.
Thanks,
-- TimNelson ( talk) 07:22, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Not all Kinesiologists in Canada have Bachelor of Science Degrees... I for instance have a Bachelor of Kinesiology Degree (McMaster University), and others may have Bachelor of Arts Degrees. Perhaps this clarification should be reflected in the main page, which states that Kinesiologists have Bachelor of Science Degrees... With that said, my Bachelor of Kinesiology degree may as well be a B.Sc degree, as it has a strong science foundation in anatomy, physiology, biomechanics, and motor/neural control... Thanks all :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.204.11.26 ( talk) 17:20, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
A new article Kinesiology tape was begun, probably motivated by a newbie editor with advertising/promotional interests in mind. That said, the subject may be notable to stand on its own as an article, though the current article could use much more work (more references, de-spamming, et cetera). Thoughts? Suggestions? The more the merrier. -- Levine2112 discuss 03:53, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
I agree with this. The only thing it has in common is the word "kinesiology" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.155.201.210 ( talk) 19:32, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
The section "Physical activity" is ill-supported and well-nigh incomprehensible.
It asserts that there is a "large debate centred on the technical definition of physical activity". On the face of it this is implausible, since "physical activity" (by inference, human physical activity) is a perfectly straightforward phrase. But even if we accept the distinction the section seems to be trying to make, it is far from clear that this is a relevant or notable contribution to this article, or a major feature of kinesiology as actually practised.
Furthermore, this sections very poorly attested. For there to be a "large debate" about something, I would expect to see a number of references which disagree with each other. When, in fact, the references in this section are all to the same book. Is the book debating with itself ?
I think the section should be removed. It doesn't add anything to the article and serves only to provide confusion. By its length it dominates the article.
- Ian Jackson 9 September 2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.13.197.229 ( talk) 13:49, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Language evolves and in different countries the word "Kinesiology" can connote very different meanings. It is presumptuous to assume that it means the same thing in different countries. In North America, and in Canada specifically, the vast majority of universities have a department or Faculty with the word "Kinesiology" included in its title. Sometimes it is Kinesiology & Physical Education or Kinesiology paired with other words (e.g. Recreation), sometimes it is only Kinesiology, sometimes it is Human Kinetics. The salient point is that language evolves and it is a fact that there is a difference between the meaning of the word "Kinesiology" depending on whether it refers to those who choose to call themselves "kinesiologists", or whether the reference is to what has evolved into the group of academic disciplines known as "Kinesiology". It is common in Canada to consider "Kinesiology" as the multi-disciplinary and inter-disciplinary study of human movement, involving the biophysical, psychological/behavioural, and socio-cultural study of the spectrum of human physical activity (PA). In that same context the PA spectrum spans inactivity (caused by a relatively sedentary lifestyle or disease or injury) through to high performance sports, and includes play and dance. There is an organization in Canada called the Canadian Council of University Physical Education and Kinesiology Administrators (CCUPEKA): the deans, directors, chairs of academic units at those universities that offer academic degree programs in Physical Education and/or Kinesiology. CCUPEKA accredits both Physical Education and Kinesiology programs and distinguishes between the two programs in their required accreditations pre-requisites. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.238.133.217 ( talk) 01:58, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
I removed some off-topic dialogue on the definition of physical activity. While it may be relevant to another page on physical activity, it does not help to describe Kinesiology. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.88.36.62 ( talk) 03:33, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
After reading this, I'm left with the questions: what exactly do they measure and why? "Muscle movement" is a very general term and could mean anything. -- 86.28.234.39 ( talk) 15:19, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
BullRangifer, HCA or anyone else:
While doing some research for another article ( Clara Gregory Baer, a student of Nils Posse) I came across the claim, not quite definitive, that Nils Posse might possibly be the first to have used the term. It would obviously be more useful if more definitive, but I hope the editors of this article will consider whether the article should include this mention.
See:
In addition, Posse published The Special Kinesiology of Educational Gymnastics.
That book is now PD, can be seen here
The book is also available as a pdf here
See also open library
It includes a nice photograph of Baron Nils Posse, who played an important role in the formative years of the subject matter. I am simply trying to ascertain whether Posse knew both Baer and Senda Berenson, so am unable to get sufficiently up to seep on this article to incorporate any of this material, but I hope other editors will find it useful.-- SPhilbrick (Talk) 14:05, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
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Not quite sure what's causing this, but under language in the sidebar, the Dansk link should be removed. It's removed from the Wikidate page ( https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q657632#sitelinks-wikipedia), but still showing up in the sidebar. To clarify, the Dansk link connects to a page dealing with applied kinesiology, which in Danish is called kinesiologi (same confusion as already evident on this Talk page). I hope someone can fix this - there may be other similar mistakes, but I'll only point out this one.
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In the 1970's, before the development of the term, field and post-secondary educational status that are today connected to "Kinesiology", another athletic tape was put on the market. Named "Kinesio tex tape" (Kinesis = movement), it's patent based on the single distinction that it was stretchable. A quick look at the 23 references listed on the "kinesiology tape" wikipedia page clearly show that intensive marketing, including the use of world-class athletes and athletic events (The Olympics) have supported the ongoing commercial success of this particular bandage material. Independent, prospective, statistically valid and verifiable scientific enquiry proving any unique benefits to this proprietory sticky tape are non-existant in the highly-regarded, peer-reviewed scientific literature.
The fact that this one particular product, among all the many items sold over the counter to aid human physiology, has been given the undeniable badge of legitimacy by appearing on the Kinesiology page in the same list of fields of study and practice that overlap with Kinesiology, including exercise physiology, physical therapy, neurology, and sport science. This list of 11 serious professions, ends with "kinesiology tape" - despite having no medically validated use, despite endless articles questioning it's efficacy, and uncovering the ongoing massive marketing effort that succussfully perpetuates the notion that a strip of stretchy fabric glued to the epidermis can magically produce significant benefits within tissue far below. I still remember, during my undergraduate years earning a B.Sc. (Kinesiology), we were taught that if there were in fact any benefit at all to athletic taping, the majority came through the belief system of the person wearing the tape: the placebo affect is real and can be very affective. This point is also made in the references appearing on the "kinesiology tape" page.
I support the appearance of a Wikipedia page, if providing factual, unbiased data about commercial products falks under Wikipedia's mandate, as it appears to.
I protest vigorously that the inclusion of "kinesiology tape" to the "See Also" list on the "Kinesiology" Wikipedia page! As a person who has made many (minor) edits of Wikipedia since about 2012, I know that there are people actively providing oversight to every type of change to the contents of every single Wikipedia page. I have to ask: how on earth was someone, intent on improving the profile (& profit) of the Kinesio corporation, able to add their product on to the Kinesiology page, and have it persist? PeacefulPlanet3 ( talk) 05:45, 1 October 2022 (UTC)