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I'm removing this section. It has multiple inaccuracies and lacks attention to Standard English. A copy of the original text is below if someone wants to edit it and paste it back in.
Naq (
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Characters
Dana A modern black woman with the mannerisms of a white male, Dana constantly takes involuntary trips to the past. She is called upon to the Antebellum south to save her ancester, Rufus. Kindred begins on Jun 9, 1976, on the day of her twenty-sixth birthday. Her full name is Edana Franlkin, and she is married to Kevin, a white male, a fact that causes her much plight thoughout the course of kindred. When she is physically transported to the past, to aid her ancester, she feels physically ill, even naucious. When Dana is transported to the past, she notes that the "room seemed to blur and darken" around her (ZButler 13). Dana is called upon to save rufus, who was at the time a "small red haired boy" who was currently floating face down. After giving him artificial respiration, the fater of Rufus, Tom weyland, though that Dana was the reason why his son was unconcious, whereupon she was threatened with a rifle. At the time, she found that the fear of death had the power of transporting her back to the future, with her husband panic.
The dooky cover picture is significantly over-saturated. The purple is much closer to grey on the actual cover. Stale Fries 03:18, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Image:OctaviaEButler Kindred.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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The majority of sentences in this article should be structured differently & instead of jumping for one thing to the next add more details/information that would make the article seem more interesting and flow with the theme. SNSmith27 ( talk) 23:38, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
In the Bibliography In Kindred Octavia Butler there are many links and sources that aren't accurate such as ( http://www.scifi.com/).Eventhough this link is dead it's no science fiction in this book at all this is why it should be deleted and replaced. Watoflifej23 ( talk) 18:34, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
here is the section deleted from the article because it is not sourced yet:
Maryland in the American Civil War Some readers might not immediately identify with Maryland as the "antebellum south". It was, of course. But a link to this page might help. HullIntegrity ( talk) 19:28, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
That dangling modifier is killing me. How about the following?: Kindred (first published in 1979) is a bestselling novel by the award-winning American science-fiction author Octavia E. Butler. Widely popular, Kindred is regularly chosen as a common reading by community-wide reading programs and book organizations as well as being a consistent text choice for high school and college courses. HullIntegrity ( talk) 19:49, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
I moved this from the article page to the talk page because most of the quotes were used in earlier sections The North Remembers16 ( talk) 19:22, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
"I was trying to get people to feel slavery," Butler said in a 2004 interview. "I was trying to get across the kind of emotional and psychological stones that slavery threw at people." [1] In another interview, she said, "I think people really need to think what it's like to have all of society arrayed against you." [2]
The book is set on Maryland's Eastern Shore. Butler said she chose the setting "because I wanted my character to have a legitimate hope of escape," and because two famous African Americans, Frederick Douglass and Harriet Tubman, had been enslaved there. [3]
According to Octavia Butler in a later autobiographical book, Rufus's body was later found in the walls. [1]
This assertion was placed as part of the novel's plot, though it is not in the book. I cannot a reference to it in Kenan's interview of Butler either: Rufus's body was later found in the rubble by cleanup workers. Ref: Butler, Octavia E. "An Interview with Octavia E. Butler." Randall Kenan. Callaloo 14.2 (1991): 496. JSTOR. Web. 26 April 2014. -- DrX ( talk) 14:21, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
While I think any decent person should agree with the premise that slavery is one of the worst crimes in human history, it's probably inappropriate to write the Wikipedia page from that premise. You know, we should make it mostly without moral judgment and let the reader bring their own ideas to it? It's kind of difficult to discuss because there has to be at least some indication that slavery is bad to keep from orienting the encyclopedia in a pro-slavery direction, but at the same time there shouldn't be a romantic take on this anti-slavery material. The page just has a feel of like a teacher lecturing about how the book illustrates the evils of slavery rather than being encyclopedic. I think it could use some adjustment. -- OGoncho ( talk) 10:33, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
It's a terrific book, but the plot is supposed to be summarized, not described in detail by chapter. See guidelines for novels and read other articles about novels. For the same reason, the discussion of characters should be shorter for each, as this section goes into great detail as well. Because of the over abundance of detail, the article is repetitive in many sections. Parkwells ( talk) 17:52, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
This article is rated B-class on Wikipedia's
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This article was the subject of an educational assignment in 2014 Q1. Further details were available on the "Education Program:CUNY, LaGuardia Community College/The Research Paper: Kindred (Spring)" page, which is now unavailable on the wiki. |
I'm removing this section. It has multiple inaccuracies and lacks attention to Standard English. A copy of the original text is below if someone wants to edit it and paste it back in.
Naq (
talk) 02:19, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Characters
Dana A modern black woman with the mannerisms of a white male, Dana constantly takes involuntary trips to the past. She is called upon to the Antebellum south to save her ancester, Rufus. Kindred begins on Jun 9, 1976, on the day of her twenty-sixth birthday. Her full name is Edana Franlkin, and she is married to Kevin, a white male, a fact that causes her much plight thoughout the course of kindred. When she is physically transported to the past, to aid her ancester, she feels physically ill, even naucious. When Dana is transported to the past, she notes that the "room seemed to blur and darken" around her (ZButler 13). Dana is called upon to save rufus, who was at the time a "small red haired boy" who was currently floating face down. After giving him artificial respiration, the fater of Rufus, Tom weyland, though that Dana was the reason why his son was unconcious, whereupon she was threatened with a rifle. At the time, she found that the fear of death had the power of transporting her back to the future, with her husband panic.
The dooky cover picture is significantly over-saturated. The purple is much closer to grey on the actual cover. Stale Fries 03:18, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Image:OctaviaEButler Kindred.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is other other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. BetacommandBot 04:58, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
The majority of sentences in this article should be structured differently & instead of jumping for one thing to the next add more details/information that would make the article seem more interesting and flow with the theme. SNSmith27 ( talk) 23:38, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
In the Bibliography In Kindred Octavia Butler there are many links and sources that aren't accurate such as ( http://www.scifi.com/).Eventhough this link is dead it's no science fiction in this book at all this is why it should be deleted and replaced. Watoflifej23 ( talk) 18:34, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
here is the section deleted from the article because it is not sourced yet:
Maryland in the American Civil War Some readers might not immediately identify with Maryland as the "antebellum south". It was, of course. But a link to this page might help. HullIntegrity ( talk) 19:28, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
That dangling modifier is killing me. How about the following?: Kindred (first published in 1979) is a bestselling novel by the award-winning American science-fiction author Octavia E. Butler. Widely popular, Kindred is regularly chosen as a common reading by community-wide reading programs and book organizations as well as being a consistent text choice for high school and college courses. HullIntegrity ( talk) 19:49, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
I moved this from the article page to the talk page because most of the quotes were used in earlier sections The North Remembers16 ( talk) 19:22, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
"I was trying to get people to feel slavery," Butler said in a 2004 interview. "I was trying to get across the kind of emotional and psychological stones that slavery threw at people." [1] In another interview, she said, "I think people really need to think what it's like to have all of society arrayed against you." [2]
The book is set on Maryland's Eastern Shore. Butler said she chose the setting "because I wanted my character to have a legitimate hope of escape," and because two famous African Americans, Frederick Douglass and Harriet Tubman, had been enslaved there. [3]
According to Octavia Butler in a later autobiographical book, Rufus's body was later found in the walls. [1]
This assertion was placed as part of the novel's plot, though it is not in the book. I cannot a reference to it in Kenan's interview of Butler either: Rufus's body was later found in the rubble by cleanup workers. Ref: Butler, Octavia E. "An Interview with Octavia E. Butler." Randall Kenan. Callaloo 14.2 (1991): 496. JSTOR. Web. 26 April 2014. -- DrX ( talk) 14:21, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
While I think any decent person should agree with the premise that slavery is one of the worst crimes in human history, it's probably inappropriate to write the Wikipedia page from that premise. You know, we should make it mostly without moral judgment and let the reader bring their own ideas to it? It's kind of difficult to discuss because there has to be at least some indication that slavery is bad to keep from orienting the encyclopedia in a pro-slavery direction, but at the same time there shouldn't be a romantic take on this anti-slavery material. The page just has a feel of like a teacher lecturing about how the book illustrates the evils of slavery rather than being encyclopedic. I think it could use some adjustment. -- OGoncho ( talk) 10:33, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
It's a terrific book, but the plot is supposed to be summarized, not described in detail by chapter. See guidelines for novels and read other articles about novels. For the same reason, the discussion of characters should be shorter for each, as this section goes into great detail as well. Because of the over abundance of detail, the article is repetitive in many sections. Parkwells ( talk) 17:52, 21 February 2018 (UTC)