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Is there anyone watching this page? Do you think it would be worth attempting a bibliography, specifically to include short stories (which are much harder to find)? Jon Dowland
The short story bibliography is nice and extensive, but might benefit from a rethink and a reorganization. How useful is it to list all the stories collected in "The Martians"? How many of these were published independently, which is usually what we think of when we think of short stories? And perhaps organizing them by year of original publication - with a citation for that publication - would be more useful than having them in alphabetical order. If any one has a list of citations, I would be happy to put them in order and format them appropriately... Zerodeconduite ( talk) 09:05, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
Sorry for the rv. I understand why you did your edit but I felt it was heavy-handed, there was some factual basis that was worth preserving. I hope my attempt is NPOV enough. Jon Dowland 20:58, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
I think the ratio of published to 'important' works is weighted too heavily on the important side. I plan to remove at least The Martians, which compared with TYORAS or the mars trilogy is hardly important (IT could be considered part of the mars trilogy). I also have reservations over Antarctica. Remember that when book 2 or 3 of the capital code trilogy are published that will almost certainly considered important.
Did the President of his Fan Club write the current revision of this article? It practically gushes with praise and subjectivity rather than the more useful objective and factual form of an encyclopaedia article. 12.June.2005
It may or may not be worth mentioning that at least two of the novels (Icehenge and the Mars trilogy) explore the impact of greatly extended human life and, the part I find interesting, the implications of limited memory where people only know the past X years of their own life and can only discover it by researching what they have done in the past. Near the end of Icehenge there is a very nice summary of the ideas.
Perhaps someone can add to the list of themes, impact on humans of greatly extended life. However as it's only discussed much in two of the novels that I'm aware of, and briefly in The Martians, it's a judgement call I will leave to others--and I'll leave the actual writing to others, since I would be embarassed to see my own prose in an article about KSR ;)
Astrophil 07:58, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
Yes--I agree. Human longevity appears in many of KSR's works including the Mars trilogy and in his most recent work Aurora. I will look for proper citations and if so will add it. Jaldous1 ( talk) 17:08, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
I recently removed a sentence from the criticism section that was subsequently reverted. I re-reverted it. Here's my reasoning: Like most 'criticism' sections in wikipedia, once someone has written in some criticism, supporters come along and add multiple sentences of 'counter' to the criticism. This one is no different, there is 1 sentence of criticism and 5 sentences of counter-criticism. Also, the 'Christian Republicans in Space' comment, while amusing, is, I think, as bit to snarky for an encyc article (especially as it is attributed to 'some critics' rather than an actual person). Finally, the sentence I removed doesn't really add any new information, but is really just an opinion that the reader could form themselves upon reading the criticism. Let's keep the Criticism section about actual criticism, not apologetics. Ashmoo 23:31, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
Whould someone find a more reliable source for the critisim than "some amazon readers" as that is a very vague sentence.
Hey, everyone. I'm a big fan of this author and know quite a bit about him and have been meaning to do some major work on this article for some time. I just haven't gotten around to it because of the sheer amount of it that I would like to do. I'm hoping to start doing some of it soon, so I just want to give advance warning before I go on an editing spree.
Some of the smaller things I want to do:
Some of the larger things I would like to do will follow... thoreaubred 00:12, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure which if any of these edits happened--but I am currently going through the entire article piece by piece to add citations. 21:22, 5 September 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaldous1 ( talk • contribs)
The three volume work, Red Mars/Green Mars/Blue Mars, is widely known as a "trilogy". However, in multiple interviews the author has saiud that he considers it one novel in three volumes, and had casually referred to it as "the Mars novel". I plan on finding sources online and changing references to the "Mars trilogy" to something like "the three-volume Mars novel". Another tricky aspect of this, which I'm not entirely sure what to do about because I'm not an expert on every aspect of Wikipedia, is how to go about changing the separate article on the "Mars trilogy" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_trilogy) to an article about the "Mars novel." In both cases, I will include something like, "While the author considers Mars to be one novel in three volumes, most people know it as a trilogy and it is popularly referred to as "the Mars trilogy". thoreaubred 00:12, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Mark Foskey 05:03, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
Mr. Robinson has also said in multiple interviews that the Three Californias series is not a trilogy but is something more like a "triptych". I will find these sources and change the word to triptych in the article. thoreaubred 00:12, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
I would have to advise against changing the 'trilogy' terminology. Many trilogies started out as a single book and were split into three. Additionally, the term 'trilogy' as it is commonly understood adequately covers what Robinson has done in the Mars/California series. I think he is just making the distinction to illustrate a point and changing the wording in these articles would just confuse things.
I think the best thing to do is just add a line quoting how he doesn't consider it a trilogy. Ashmoo 00:26, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
There has long been controversy over how to describe Robinson's work, as many people have felt that its quality stands out from other science fiction in various ways. People have called it things such as "literary science fiction" while Robinson himself has rejected such labels and defended plain old "science fiction". I previously addressed this in a minor edit, but I would like to also add a small section in the article that outlines Robinson's philosophy of science fiction and perhaps of literature in general, using quotes from interviews, from his doctoral thesis on Philip K. Dick, and from other things he's written about science fiction and literature in general. This section would address the reasons so many people want to call his work something other than science fiction, and then would answer those reasons with quotes from the author himself. This section would also propose "utopian fiction" or "utopian science fiction" as another legitimate label that the author would arguably not have a problem with, as it describes the leaning of his work without implying a superiority to other science fiction. thoreaubred 00:12, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
I was rather surprised by the categorical designation as "hard science fiction". Surely much fo Robinson's work combines hard and soft science fiction? Susume 20:55, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Someone previously pointed out that too many of Robinson's works were included as "major works". That person proposed removing The Martians, which I agree with, though it should be mentioned briefly at the end of the Mars section. I would also propose removing The Years of Rice and Salt. What qualifies a work as a major work? Perhaps the "major works" section should be removed completely, and replaced with a "multi-volume works" section, which would contain Mars, Three Californias, and the current trilogy (sometimes called the Capital Code series, sometimes called the Science In The Capital series; neither has been verified. thoreaubred 00:12, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
I don't like the way that instead of having a list of novels in bibliography format, there is the Major Works section and then the Other Novels section. I would like to keep the Major Works section but remove the Other Novels section and replace it with a complete bibliography. thoreaubred 00:12, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
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Does anyone have any references supporting the idea that KSR's visions are communist? There's a clear utopian thread throughout his works, but as far as I can tell the word communist is never used in the writings to describe these ideas. It's a loaded word that conjures up images of Leninism or Stalinism, but even the most fully-formed utopian works by KSR are nothing like historical communism. In Pacific Edge, probably his most well-developed utopian work, the economic system seems to involve a minimum income for everyone regardless of work, a maximum wage, and the division of capital across communities for the social good. Capital accumulation above the limit for any individual cannot be kept for individual use, but can be directed to social purposes according to the wishes of each individual (or "hundred") in that position. There are also aspects of communal family living. The political system is multi-party.
The text below the heading "communism" is a good summary of these ideas found in "Pacific Edge" and elsewhere. Perhaps the heading could be changed to "Anti-capitalism," "Democratic economics" or something similar. Even "Socialism" would be better in my view. But whatever term is used should have some foundation in KSR's works or related interviews. I'd be OK with "communism" if that was the term KSR used himself, but I'm unaware that he uses the term and strongly doubt it. It smells like POV to me, either by someone disdainful of his ideas who wants to associate them with something else that is widely discredited, or else an attempt by someone to redefine communism more positively by associating it with a quite different utopian vision. Llachglin 19:28, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
The man espouses communistic ideals. It frankly doesn't matter what his wording is, the fact is his utopias are distcively communist.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.41.197.176 ( talk • contribs)
"Communism" simply does not mean anything anymore. Originally it meant voluntarily sharing things in common, then it was hijacked by dictators as cover for oppressing their people, then hijacked again by corrupt politicians who wanted to smear reforms (such as Martin Luther King's campaigns for equality) by implying non-existent links to the dictators. The original meaning is gone, the dictators are gone, and only an idiot would try to blame a current movement on a defunct dictatorship. It's a dead word; stop using it. CharlesTheBold 00:55, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
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Shouldn`t the passage about the paleolithic activities in Fifty Degrees Below be moved to the article about the book? I don`t think that it fits in here! -- Meile ( talk) 17:39, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
I moved the passage to Fifty Degrees Below. -- Meile ( talk) 14:43, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
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Do we really need the middle of the article to be an enormous list of short stories? I would prefer to have these in their own article or radically trimmed back. Euchrid ( talk) 03:38, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
The links in references three and five are broken. Posted by anonymous coward, not a wiki-editor, just someone who came across this page. 1:51, 9 November 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.211.115.30 ( talk)
I'm not sure that the mountaineering comment is relevant to the career section. Considering deletion. Although I have seen that KSR is an avid backpacker and that has influenced his works. Jaldous1 ( talk) 03:36, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
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Hi,
The sentence in this article: "In the 1980s Robinson also spent time with a National Science Foundation team at a research base in Antarctica.[7]" is not supported by the attached reference [7] where it is clear KSR is simply relaying a story without any reference to himself having had any part in that story. However, I have found other references mentioning that he was in Antarctica in 1995 (and again in 2016/2017?), e.g.: http://www.sactownmag.com/February-March-2017/The-Man-Who-Fell-for-Earth/ http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/robinson_interview/ http://www.kimstanleyrobinson.info/node/344
I suggest to either remove the sentence and source I have quoted or have someone who is more familiar with the matter correct it.
Thanks ☺
P.S. I am new here so apologies if this wasn't the correct place to post this and feel free to move/delete as preferred. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xenoturbella ( talk • contribs) 20:30, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
The very first sentence of this bio currently reads "Kim Stanley Robinson (born March 23, 1952) is an American socialist writer of science fiction." While his political perspective is certainly within the scope of this article, labeling him with it like this seems to imply bias and political agenda in the article. No one would introduce a biography of Robert A. Heinlein by saying he "was an American libertarian writer of science fiction" unless they were explicitly writing from either a pro- or anti-libertarian perspective. 2601:602:8C80:6A80:9901:B6E3:6B8E:9F39 ( talk) 03:26, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
A chemist? MaynardClark ( talk) 00:33, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
The section titled Career is pathetically bad.
It completely fails to cover Robinson's career, and instead includes several irrelevant anecdotes.
I hope someone knowledgeable about this subject can fix this. 2601:200:C082:2EA0:851C:7AE8:1182:1566 ( talk) 17:29, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
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Is there anyone watching this page? Do you think it would be worth attempting a bibliography, specifically to include short stories (which are much harder to find)? Jon Dowland
The short story bibliography is nice and extensive, but might benefit from a rethink and a reorganization. How useful is it to list all the stories collected in "The Martians"? How many of these were published independently, which is usually what we think of when we think of short stories? And perhaps organizing them by year of original publication - with a citation for that publication - would be more useful than having them in alphabetical order. If any one has a list of citations, I would be happy to put them in order and format them appropriately... Zerodeconduite ( talk) 09:05, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
Sorry for the rv. I understand why you did your edit but I felt it was heavy-handed, there was some factual basis that was worth preserving. I hope my attempt is NPOV enough. Jon Dowland 20:58, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
I think the ratio of published to 'important' works is weighted too heavily on the important side. I plan to remove at least The Martians, which compared with TYORAS or the mars trilogy is hardly important (IT could be considered part of the mars trilogy). I also have reservations over Antarctica. Remember that when book 2 or 3 of the capital code trilogy are published that will almost certainly considered important.
Did the President of his Fan Club write the current revision of this article? It practically gushes with praise and subjectivity rather than the more useful objective and factual form of an encyclopaedia article. 12.June.2005
It may or may not be worth mentioning that at least two of the novels (Icehenge and the Mars trilogy) explore the impact of greatly extended human life and, the part I find interesting, the implications of limited memory where people only know the past X years of their own life and can only discover it by researching what they have done in the past. Near the end of Icehenge there is a very nice summary of the ideas.
Perhaps someone can add to the list of themes, impact on humans of greatly extended life. However as it's only discussed much in two of the novels that I'm aware of, and briefly in The Martians, it's a judgement call I will leave to others--and I'll leave the actual writing to others, since I would be embarassed to see my own prose in an article about KSR ;)
Astrophil 07:58, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
Yes--I agree. Human longevity appears in many of KSR's works including the Mars trilogy and in his most recent work Aurora. I will look for proper citations and if so will add it. Jaldous1 ( talk) 17:08, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
I recently removed a sentence from the criticism section that was subsequently reverted. I re-reverted it. Here's my reasoning: Like most 'criticism' sections in wikipedia, once someone has written in some criticism, supporters come along and add multiple sentences of 'counter' to the criticism. This one is no different, there is 1 sentence of criticism and 5 sentences of counter-criticism. Also, the 'Christian Republicans in Space' comment, while amusing, is, I think, as bit to snarky for an encyc article (especially as it is attributed to 'some critics' rather than an actual person). Finally, the sentence I removed doesn't really add any new information, but is really just an opinion that the reader could form themselves upon reading the criticism. Let's keep the Criticism section about actual criticism, not apologetics. Ashmoo 23:31, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
Whould someone find a more reliable source for the critisim than "some amazon readers" as that is a very vague sentence.
Hey, everyone. I'm a big fan of this author and know quite a bit about him and have been meaning to do some major work on this article for some time. I just haven't gotten around to it because of the sheer amount of it that I would like to do. I'm hoping to start doing some of it soon, so I just want to give advance warning before I go on an editing spree.
Some of the smaller things I want to do:
Some of the larger things I would like to do will follow... thoreaubred 00:12, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure which if any of these edits happened--but I am currently going through the entire article piece by piece to add citations. 21:22, 5 September 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaldous1 ( talk • contribs)
The three volume work, Red Mars/Green Mars/Blue Mars, is widely known as a "trilogy". However, in multiple interviews the author has saiud that he considers it one novel in three volumes, and had casually referred to it as "the Mars novel". I plan on finding sources online and changing references to the "Mars trilogy" to something like "the three-volume Mars novel". Another tricky aspect of this, which I'm not entirely sure what to do about because I'm not an expert on every aspect of Wikipedia, is how to go about changing the separate article on the "Mars trilogy" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_trilogy) to an article about the "Mars novel." In both cases, I will include something like, "While the author considers Mars to be one novel in three volumes, most people know it as a trilogy and it is popularly referred to as "the Mars trilogy". thoreaubred 00:12, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Mark Foskey 05:03, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
Mr. Robinson has also said in multiple interviews that the Three Californias series is not a trilogy but is something more like a "triptych". I will find these sources and change the word to triptych in the article. thoreaubred 00:12, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
I would have to advise against changing the 'trilogy' terminology. Many trilogies started out as a single book and were split into three. Additionally, the term 'trilogy' as it is commonly understood adequately covers what Robinson has done in the Mars/California series. I think he is just making the distinction to illustrate a point and changing the wording in these articles would just confuse things.
I think the best thing to do is just add a line quoting how he doesn't consider it a trilogy. Ashmoo 00:26, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
There has long been controversy over how to describe Robinson's work, as many people have felt that its quality stands out from other science fiction in various ways. People have called it things such as "literary science fiction" while Robinson himself has rejected such labels and defended plain old "science fiction". I previously addressed this in a minor edit, but I would like to also add a small section in the article that outlines Robinson's philosophy of science fiction and perhaps of literature in general, using quotes from interviews, from his doctoral thesis on Philip K. Dick, and from other things he's written about science fiction and literature in general. This section would address the reasons so many people want to call his work something other than science fiction, and then would answer those reasons with quotes from the author himself. This section would also propose "utopian fiction" or "utopian science fiction" as another legitimate label that the author would arguably not have a problem with, as it describes the leaning of his work without implying a superiority to other science fiction. thoreaubred 00:12, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
I was rather surprised by the categorical designation as "hard science fiction". Surely much fo Robinson's work combines hard and soft science fiction? Susume 20:55, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Someone previously pointed out that too many of Robinson's works were included as "major works". That person proposed removing The Martians, which I agree with, though it should be mentioned briefly at the end of the Mars section. I would also propose removing The Years of Rice and Salt. What qualifies a work as a major work? Perhaps the "major works" section should be removed completely, and replaced with a "multi-volume works" section, which would contain Mars, Three Californias, and the current trilogy (sometimes called the Capital Code series, sometimes called the Science In The Capital series; neither has been verified. thoreaubred 00:12, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
I don't like the way that instead of having a list of novels in bibliography format, there is the Major Works section and then the Other Novels section. I would like to keep the Major Works section but remove the Other Novels section and replace it with a complete bibliography. thoreaubred 00:12, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
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Does anyone have any references supporting the idea that KSR's visions are communist? There's a clear utopian thread throughout his works, but as far as I can tell the word communist is never used in the writings to describe these ideas. It's a loaded word that conjures up images of Leninism or Stalinism, but even the most fully-formed utopian works by KSR are nothing like historical communism. In Pacific Edge, probably his most well-developed utopian work, the economic system seems to involve a minimum income for everyone regardless of work, a maximum wage, and the division of capital across communities for the social good. Capital accumulation above the limit for any individual cannot be kept for individual use, but can be directed to social purposes according to the wishes of each individual (or "hundred") in that position. There are also aspects of communal family living. The political system is multi-party.
The text below the heading "communism" is a good summary of these ideas found in "Pacific Edge" and elsewhere. Perhaps the heading could be changed to "Anti-capitalism," "Democratic economics" or something similar. Even "Socialism" would be better in my view. But whatever term is used should have some foundation in KSR's works or related interviews. I'd be OK with "communism" if that was the term KSR used himself, but I'm unaware that he uses the term and strongly doubt it. It smells like POV to me, either by someone disdainful of his ideas who wants to associate them with something else that is widely discredited, or else an attempt by someone to redefine communism more positively by associating it with a quite different utopian vision. Llachglin 19:28, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
The man espouses communistic ideals. It frankly doesn't matter what his wording is, the fact is his utopias are distcively communist.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.41.197.176 ( talk • contribs)
"Communism" simply does not mean anything anymore. Originally it meant voluntarily sharing things in common, then it was hijacked by dictators as cover for oppressing their people, then hijacked again by corrupt politicians who wanted to smear reforms (such as Martin Luther King's campaigns for equality) by implying non-existent links to the dictators. The original meaning is gone, the dictators are gone, and only an idiot would try to blame a current movement on a defunct dictatorship. It's a dead word; stop using it. CharlesTheBold 00:55, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
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Shouldn`t the passage about the paleolithic activities in Fifty Degrees Below be moved to the article about the book? I don`t think that it fits in here! -- Meile ( talk) 17:39, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
I moved the passage to Fifty Degrees Below. -- Meile ( talk) 14:43, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
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Do we really need the middle of the article to be an enormous list of short stories? I would prefer to have these in their own article or radically trimmed back. Euchrid ( talk) 03:38, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
The links in references three and five are broken. Posted by anonymous coward, not a wiki-editor, just someone who came across this page. 1:51, 9 November 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.211.115.30 ( talk)
I'm not sure that the mountaineering comment is relevant to the career section. Considering deletion. Although I have seen that KSR is an avid backpacker and that has influenced his works. Jaldous1 ( talk) 03:36, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
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The sentence in this article: "In the 1980s Robinson also spent time with a National Science Foundation team at a research base in Antarctica.[7]" is not supported by the attached reference [7] where it is clear KSR is simply relaying a story without any reference to himself having had any part in that story. However, I have found other references mentioning that he was in Antarctica in 1995 (and again in 2016/2017?), e.g.: http://www.sactownmag.com/February-March-2017/The-Man-Who-Fell-for-Earth/ http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/robinson_interview/ http://www.kimstanleyrobinson.info/node/344
I suggest to either remove the sentence and source I have quoted or have someone who is more familiar with the matter correct it.
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P.S. I am new here so apologies if this wasn't the correct place to post this and feel free to move/delete as preferred. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xenoturbella ( talk • contribs) 20:30, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
The very first sentence of this bio currently reads "Kim Stanley Robinson (born March 23, 1952) is an American socialist writer of science fiction." While his political perspective is certainly within the scope of this article, labeling him with it like this seems to imply bias and political agenda in the article. No one would introduce a biography of Robert A. Heinlein by saying he "was an American libertarian writer of science fiction" unless they were explicitly writing from either a pro- or anti-libertarian perspective. 2601:602:8C80:6A80:9901:B6E3:6B8E:9F39 ( talk) 03:26, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
A chemist? MaynardClark ( talk) 00:33, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
The section titled Career is pathetically bad.
It completely fails to cover Robinson's career, and instead includes several irrelevant anecdotes.
I hope someone knowledgeable about this subject can fix this. 2601:200:C082:2EA0:851C:7AE8:1182:1566 ( talk) 17:29, 4 March 2023 (UTC)