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Have you seen pages 94-95 of Daphna Ben Tor's 2010 paper titled: The Second Intermediate Period: Thirteenth-Seveenth Dynasties, (ed. Marcel Maree) as published by OLA 192. It is available for download for free here: http://www.academia.edu/1566952/Sequence_and_Chronology_of_SIP_royal-name_scarabs. (see pages 94-95)
Ben Tor reveals that the seals of Sheshi at Uronarti were not found in situ (intact) but were in fact New Kingdom intrusions. Yvonne Markowitz confirmed this to Ben Tor...and Reisner also suspected that the context of the Uronarti sealing was not secure. As Ben Tor writes:
Therefore, Sheshi was Not contemporary with the early 13th dynasty kings Khabaw and Djedkheperew--as Ryholt has argued--since his seals were most likely New Kingdom intrusions and the Uronarti context is not secure with seals of 18th dynasty design found there. However, Ben Tor confirms that the Shikmona scarab of Khyan was found in a secure context...which dates to the early 15th Dynasty (pp.95-96). Ben Tor also says that Yaqubhar and Khyan's seals are very close in style which suggests that they lived/ruled close in time with each other. Ryholt is a good scholar but he was slightly wrong on dating Sheshi's position in the SIP. He has thus far not admitted this mistake but Ben Tor has shown that Ryholt's arguments for an early 13th dynasty date for Sheshi is likely not possible. Regards, -- Leoboudv ( talk) 22:50, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
Where does Reisner accept that the Uronarti context was not secure? As far as I know he reported with seal impressions as a closed deposit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amunnakhte ( talk • contribs) 14:22, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
EDIT: On the contrary I think Ryholt, being a researcher, would be happy to see his work discussed and compared with that of others, be it here on wikipedia or in research articles. We are not slandering anyone. Iry-Hor ( talk) 10:08, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
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Dear Sir or Madam,
Have you seen pages 94-95 of Daphna Ben Tor's 2010 paper titled: The Second Intermediate Period: Thirteenth-Seveenth Dynasties, (ed. Marcel Maree) as published by OLA 192. It is available for download for free here: http://www.academia.edu/1566952/Sequence_and_Chronology_of_SIP_royal-name_scarabs. (see pages 94-95)
Ben Tor reveals that the seals of Sheshi at Uronarti were not found in situ (intact) but were in fact New Kingdom intrusions. Yvonne Markowitz confirmed this to Ben Tor...and Reisner also suspected that the context of the Uronarti sealing was not secure. As Ben Tor writes:
Therefore, Sheshi was Not contemporary with the early 13th dynasty kings Khabaw and Djedkheperew--as Ryholt has argued--since his seals were most likely New Kingdom intrusions and the Uronarti context is not secure with seals of 18th dynasty design found there. However, Ben Tor confirms that the Shikmona scarab of Khyan was found in a secure context...which dates to the early 15th Dynasty (pp.95-96). Ben Tor also says that Yaqubhar and Khyan's seals are very close in style which suggests that they lived/ruled close in time with each other. Ryholt is a good scholar but he was slightly wrong on dating Sheshi's position in the SIP. He has thus far not admitted this mistake but Ben Tor has shown that Ryholt's arguments for an early 13th dynasty date for Sheshi is likely not possible. Regards, -- Leoboudv ( talk) 22:50, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
Where does Reisner accept that the Uronarti context was not secure? As far as I know he reported with seal impressions as a closed deposit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amunnakhte ( talk • contribs) 14:22, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
EDIT: On the contrary I think Ryholt, being a researcher, would be happy to see his work discussed and compared with that of others, be it here on wikipedia or in research articles. We are not slandering anyone. Iry-Hor ( talk) 10:08, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
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