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The Kilwa Sultanate page has some discrepant dates for the early history of Kilwa that should be resolved. And once that has been straightened out, the History section of this article probably needs a better introduction as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.51.110.77 ( talk) 15:03, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
This is untrue, it was captured by Arabs after the Portuguese abandoned the Fortress due to high maintenance costs
As part of a project, I plan on using the following sources to expand on the archaeology section of the article:
Elkiss, Terry H. 1973 Kilwa Kisiwani: The Rise of an East African City-State. African Studies Review. 16(1):119-130.
Fleisher, Jeffrey and Stephanie Wynne-Jones 2012 Finding Meaning in Ancient Swahili Spatial Practices. African Archaeological Review 29:171-207.
Pollard, Edward John 2008 The Maritime Landscape of Kilwa Kisiwani and its Region, Tanzania, 11th to 15th Century AD. Journal of Anthropological Archaeology 27:265-280.
Pollard, Edward 2008 Inter-Tidal Causeways and Platforms of the 13th- to 16th-Century City-State of Kilwa Kisiwani, Tanzania. Te International Journal of Nautical Archaeology 37(1):98-114.
Wynne-Jones, Stephanie 2007 Creating Urban Communities at Kilwa Kisiwani, Tanzania, AD 800-1300. Antiquity 81:368-380. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gallivantingfox ( talk • contribs) 03:27, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
Thank you very much for improving the article. It was certainly in need of more attention. But I have to say that one of the comments - on the cultivation of cotton - pricked my ears. This is the first time I heard of locally grown cotton and found that quite surprising. Indian cotton was the major import into Kilwa - indeed, one of their primary lines of business. I have never heard of cotton being grown on the Swahili coast, and a lot about the cotton trade with India. Cotton is a very thirsty crop, and I was under the impression that Kilwa was quite parched. I don't have access to Pollard's article, so I can't check if this is merely a tentative conjecture or if there is more evidence of cotton growth. But, if true, is a very important statement. Since you seem to have lots of resources, is this only in Pollard? Walrasiad ( talk) 17:03, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
Is this article still considered a Start Class? I believe it has at least achieved C-Class? Sputink ( talk) 16:29, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
I shall let nature take its way. I am not very confortable rating articles yet. Also thats great that you get students to build articles. The Tanzania project needs all the help it can get. - Sputink ( talk) 14:46, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
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"In 1331CE, Moroccan traveller and scholar Ibn Battuta visited Kilwa and described it as one of the beautiful cities in the world. Trade connections with the Arabian Peninsula as well as India and China influenced the growth and development of Kilwa, and, though there are Islamic words and customs that have been adapted to the culture, the origins are African."
The architecture, pottery, cloth and smelting all source from either Arabic or Asian sources. The prevalent religion is of Arabic origin. The coinage and writing from the age is in Arabic script. The rulers of Kilwa from 10th to 15th centuries are Arabian ('possibly' previously Persian). The ocean-going trade ships all source from Arabia/Asia. Swahili in the totality of its lexicon back then was more Arabic than Bantu (something that only began to tilt the other way after the 1800s). What African origins does the statement refer to? 2001:8003:70F5:2400:7939:ABC6:2865:D737 ( talk) 21:27, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
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The contents of the Great Mosque of Kilwa page were merged into Kilwa Kisiwani on Dec. 4 2014. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected page, please see its history; for the discussion at that location, see its talk page. |
The contents of the Palace of Husuni Kubwa page were merged into Kilwa Kisiwani on Dec. 4 2014. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected page, please see its history; for the discussion at that location, see its talk page. |
This article was the subject of an educational assignment in 2014 Q3. Further details were available on the "Education Program:University of Wisconsin - La Crosse/African Archaeology (ARC 312) (Fall 2014)" page, which is now unavailable on the wiki. |
The Kilwa Sultanate page has some discrepant dates for the early history of Kilwa that should be resolved. And once that has been straightened out, the History section of this article probably needs a better introduction as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.51.110.77 ( talk) 15:03, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
This is untrue, it was captured by Arabs after the Portuguese abandoned the Fortress due to high maintenance costs
As part of a project, I plan on using the following sources to expand on the archaeology section of the article:
Elkiss, Terry H. 1973 Kilwa Kisiwani: The Rise of an East African City-State. African Studies Review. 16(1):119-130.
Fleisher, Jeffrey and Stephanie Wynne-Jones 2012 Finding Meaning in Ancient Swahili Spatial Practices. African Archaeological Review 29:171-207.
Pollard, Edward John 2008 The Maritime Landscape of Kilwa Kisiwani and its Region, Tanzania, 11th to 15th Century AD. Journal of Anthropological Archaeology 27:265-280.
Pollard, Edward 2008 Inter-Tidal Causeways and Platforms of the 13th- to 16th-Century City-State of Kilwa Kisiwani, Tanzania. Te International Journal of Nautical Archaeology 37(1):98-114.
Wynne-Jones, Stephanie 2007 Creating Urban Communities at Kilwa Kisiwani, Tanzania, AD 800-1300. Antiquity 81:368-380. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gallivantingfox ( talk • contribs) 03:27, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
Thank you very much for improving the article. It was certainly in need of more attention. But I have to say that one of the comments - on the cultivation of cotton - pricked my ears. This is the first time I heard of locally grown cotton and found that quite surprising. Indian cotton was the major import into Kilwa - indeed, one of their primary lines of business. I have never heard of cotton being grown on the Swahili coast, and a lot about the cotton trade with India. Cotton is a very thirsty crop, and I was under the impression that Kilwa was quite parched. I don't have access to Pollard's article, so I can't check if this is merely a tentative conjecture or if there is more evidence of cotton growth. But, if true, is a very important statement. Since you seem to have lots of resources, is this only in Pollard? Walrasiad ( talk) 17:03, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
Is this article still considered a Start Class? I believe it has at least achieved C-Class? Sputink ( talk) 16:29, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
I shall let nature take its way. I am not very confortable rating articles yet. Also thats great that you get students to build articles. The Tanzania project needs all the help it can get. - Sputink ( talk) 14:46, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
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"In 1331CE, Moroccan traveller and scholar Ibn Battuta visited Kilwa and described it as one of the beautiful cities in the world. Trade connections with the Arabian Peninsula as well as India and China influenced the growth and development of Kilwa, and, though there are Islamic words and customs that have been adapted to the culture, the origins are African."
The architecture, pottery, cloth and smelting all source from either Arabic or Asian sources. The prevalent religion is of Arabic origin. The coinage and writing from the age is in Arabic script. The rulers of Kilwa from 10th to 15th centuries are Arabian ('possibly' previously Persian). The ocean-going trade ships all source from Arabia/Asia. Swahili in the totality of its lexicon back then was more Arabic than Bantu (something that only began to tilt the other way after the 1800s). What African origins does the statement refer to? 2001:8003:70F5:2400:7939:ABC6:2865:D737 ( talk) 21:27, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 10 January 2023 and 1 May 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Nickhe1131 ( article contribs). Peer reviewers: FleetwoodMe, Bjj5rice.
— Assignment last updated by Usomi ( talk) 19:12, 31 March 2023 (UTC)