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Is the title of this article appropriate? Until the perpetrator for this crime has been formally indicted for "murder," it's breaking the "innocent until proven guilty" clause of WP:BLPCRIME. I recommend changing the title to Killing of Nabra Hassanen. Kamalthebest ( talk) 07:43, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
@Jusdafax added a description of the suspect to the article lead so that it read:
On June 18, 2017, Nabra Hassanen, a 17-year-old American Muslim girl, was assaulted and killed in an act of road rage by an undocumented immigrant youth from El Salvador. Hassanen's family and several civil rights groups believe that this might be a hate crime. The police believe that the killing was motivated by road rage.
I've got a couple of concerns about this. Firstly about weight - does putting the suspect in the lead create a presumption? Secondly the current wording doesn't say 'suspect' and implies guilt, which is not established.
Based on this, I'm reverting, but open to ideas. Cheers, AntiVan ( talk) 08:48, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
==Notability==
Since this turned out to be a tragic traffic accident, not a hate crime, it is not clear that it is meets
WP:GNG.
E.M.Gregory (
talk)
18:36, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
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Is the title of this article appropriate? Until the perpetrator for this crime has been formally indicted for "murder," it's breaking the "innocent until proven guilty" clause of WP:BLPCRIME. I recommend changing the title to Killing of Nabra Hassanen. Kamalthebest ( talk) 07:43, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
@Jusdafax added a description of the suspect to the article lead so that it read:
On June 18, 2017, Nabra Hassanen, a 17-year-old American Muslim girl, was assaulted and killed in an act of road rage by an undocumented immigrant youth from El Salvador. Hassanen's family and several civil rights groups believe that this might be a hate crime. The police believe that the killing was motivated by road rage.
I've got a couple of concerns about this. Firstly about weight - does putting the suspect in the lead create a presumption? Secondly the current wording doesn't say 'suspect' and implies guilt, which is not established.
Based on this, I'm reverting, but open to ideas. Cheers, AntiVan ( talk) 08:48, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
==Notability==
Since this turned out to be a tragic traffic accident, not a hate crime, it is not clear that it is meets
WP:GNG.
E.M.Gregory (
talk)
18:36, 27 November 2017 (UTC)