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Notability.
There is a federal lawsuit covered in the NY Times.
There is a high school named in her honor.
And aslew of news stories.
What more does notability consist of? BatYisrael ( talk) 01:51, 5 August 2008 (UTC)BatYisrael
- I'm just questioning the notability of a victim of a bombing. She didn't do anything notable. Enigma message 01:52, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
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Or - type her neme into google books. an Astonishing amount has been written about this young women. She is a symbol of the brutality of terrorism for the American community BatYisrael ( talk) 02:07, 5 August 2008 (UTC)BatYisrael
- OK, remove it if you want. I'm sure others will come upon the article and judge for themselves. Enigma message
- The article is stub article for a WP:ONEEVENT biography. Unless that astonishing amount written about Flatow can flesh this article out, the article should be merged and redirected to the Egged bus 36 bombing article, which is a stub itself. • Gene93k ( talk) 15:18, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Previous AfD discussion:
- Keep Flatow has been in the news repeatedly in relation to the case Flatow v. Islamic Republic of Iran and efforts to recover damages from Iran. Many more reliable and verifiable sources are available to expand the article, but the article satisfies the
Wikipedia:Notability standard as is.
Alansohn (
talk)
06:12, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think it does. She herself hasn't been the subject of reliable sources, only her death and events her family were involved in after her death. Rami R 11:58, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak delete. I agree with the nom that this is basically a WP:BIO1E case. Could probably be merged/redirected to Egged bus 36 bombing. Nsk92 ( talk) 10:05, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
- Merge and delete - this is as WP:BIO1E as it gets. I mean, her birth date isn't even mentioned, only her death date. The only note-worthy information I see is about Flatow v. Iran, and that can be trivially introduced to the Egged bus 36 bombing article. Rami R 11:58, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
- Keep. Oodles of coverage for this person, and there's a fricking school named after her - that alone ought to be a sufficient indicium of notability! -- Y not? 20:02, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
- Keep. The question is not whether it is a good article or even a Start-level article. The article needs to be beefed up. But the questions in an AfD based on non-notability are, is the subject notable and is the notability asserted in the article. The article says this person is the subject of a $200+ million judgment against another country, and has a school named after her. I would say that lifts her above the common non-notable rabble. 6SJ7 ( talk) 04:51, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Keep. News coverage+school+lawsuit=passes inclusion guidelines as they now stand. youngamerican ( wtf?) 17:33, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Merge/Redirect to Egged bus 36 bombing. -- brew crewer (yada, yada) 02:09, 12 October 2008 (UTC)(moved to this page)Merge. This is a clear one-event entry. With all due respect for the subject, and sympathy to the family, there is nothing notable about being a bombing victim, or, if the bombing is terrorism, receiving a large award in a US court (not every one of the Lockerbie disaster victims who sued in US courts is notable despite meeting that criterion). Likewise, having a school named in one's honor is not any indicator of notability at all. Bongomatic ( talk) 23:17, 12 October 2008 (UTC)(moved to this page)
- Keep Flatow has been in the news repeatedly in relation to the case Flatow v. Islamic Republic of Iran and efforts to recover damages from Iran. Many more reliable and verifiable sources are available to expand the article, but the article satisfies the
Wikipedia:Notability standard as is.
Alansohn (
talk)
06:12, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
Continuing from the AfD discussion:
- Merge. This is a clear one-event entry. With all due respect for the subject, and sympathy to the family, there is nothing notable about being a bombing victim, or, if the bombing is terrorism, receiving a large award in a US court (not every one of the Lockerbie disaster victims who sued in US courts is notable despite meeting that criterion). Likewise, having a school named in one's honor is not any indicator of notability at all. Bongomatic ( talk) 08:49, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
- Merge/Redirect. Duh. -- brew crewer (yada, yada) 03:41, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
- Merge/Redirect per the arguments at AfD. Classic One event material. Merge into the article about the bombing. Enigma message 21:57, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
- Now what?
Enigma
message
00:50, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
- We wait for someone that isn't lazy as hell. -- brew crewer (yada, yada) 01:45, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
- Now what?
Enigma
message
00:50, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
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Notability.
There is a federal lawsuit covered in the NY Times.
There is a high school named in her honor.
And aslew of news stories.
What more does notability consist of? BatYisrael ( talk) 01:51, 5 August 2008 (UTC)BatYisrael
- I'm just questioning the notability of a victim of a bombing. She didn't do anything notable. Enigma message 01:52, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
\
Or - type her neme into google books. an Astonishing amount has been written about this young women. She is a symbol of the brutality of terrorism for the American community BatYisrael ( talk) 02:07, 5 August 2008 (UTC)BatYisrael
- OK, remove it if you want. I'm sure others will come upon the article and judge for themselves. Enigma message
- The article is stub article for a WP:ONEEVENT biography. Unless that astonishing amount written about Flatow can flesh this article out, the article should be merged and redirected to the Egged bus 36 bombing article, which is a stub itself. • Gene93k ( talk) 15:18, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Previous AfD discussion:
- Keep Flatow has been in the news repeatedly in relation to the case Flatow v. Islamic Republic of Iran and efforts to recover damages from Iran. Many more reliable and verifiable sources are available to expand the article, but the article satisfies the
Wikipedia:Notability standard as is.
Alansohn (
talk)
06:12, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think it does. She herself hasn't been the subject of reliable sources, only her death and events her family were involved in after her death. Rami R 11:58, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak delete. I agree with the nom that this is basically a WP:BIO1E case. Could probably be merged/redirected to Egged bus 36 bombing. Nsk92 ( talk) 10:05, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
- Merge and delete - this is as WP:BIO1E as it gets. I mean, her birth date isn't even mentioned, only her death date. The only note-worthy information I see is about Flatow v. Iran, and that can be trivially introduced to the Egged bus 36 bombing article. Rami R 11:58, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
- Keep. Oodles of coverage for this person, and there's a fricking school named after her - that alone ought to be a sufficient indicium of notability! -- Y not? 20:02, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
- Keep. The question is not whether it is a good article or even a Start-level article. The article needs to be beefed up. But the questions in an AfD based on non-notability are, is the subject notable and is the notability asserted in the article. The article says this person is the subject of a $200+ million judgment against another country, and has a school named after her. I would say that lifts her above the common non-notable rabble. 6SJ7 ( talk) 04:51, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Keep. News coverage+school+lawsuit=passes inclusion guidelines as they now stand. youngamerican ( wtf?) 17:33, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Merge/Redirect to Egged bus 36 bombing. -- brew crewer (yada, yada) 02:09, 12 October 2008 (UTC)(moved to this page)Merge. This is a clear one-event entry. With all due respect for the subject, and sympathy to the family, there is nothing notable about being a bombing victim, or, if the bombing is terrorism, receiving a large award in a US court (not every one of the Lockerbie disaster victims who sued in US courts is notable despite meeting that criterion). Likewise, having a school named in one's honor is not any indicator of notability at all. Bongomatic ( talk) 23:17, 12 October 2008 (UTC)(moved to this page)
- Keep Flatow has been in the news repeatedly in relation to the case Flatow v. Islamic Republic of Iran and efforts to recover damages from Iran. Many more reliable and verifiable sources are available to expand the article, but the article satisfies the
Wikipedia:Notability standard as is.
Alansohn (
talk)
06:12, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
Continuing from the AfD discussion:
- Merge. This is a clear one-event entry. With all due respect for the subject, and sympathy to the family, there is nothing notable about being a bombing victim, or, if the bombing is terrorism, receiving a large award in a US court (not every one of the Lockerbie disaster victims who sued in US courts is notable despite meeting that criterion). Likewise, having a school named in one's honor is not any indicator of notability at all. Bongomatic ( talk) 08:49, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
- Merge/Redirect. Duh. -- brew crewer (yada, yada) 03:41, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
- Merge/Redirect per the arguments at AfD. Classic One event material. Merge into the article about the bombing. Enigma message 21:57, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
- Now what?
Enigma
message
00:50, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
- We wait for someone that isn't lazy as hell. -- brew crewer (yada, yada) 01:45, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
- Now what?
Enigma
message
00:50, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
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