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I don't know, but this looks more to me like a description of famous people from Olympia than a description of the record label.
--aviado—Preceding undated comment added 08:00, 22 February 2003 (UTC)
- Such famous musicians such as Kurt Cobain of Nirvana, John Wozniak of Marcy Playground, and Jason Frost of Love Junkies frequented and lived in this tiny Western Musical Town in the early 1990s.
Is it possible to quantify the loss or gain of "indie cred?" Maybe I just object to the wording, or maybe I'm just being overly critical. Thoughts? -- djrobgordon 23:05, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
I don't agree that the Decembrists are the most popular product of KRS. I've never even heard of them. This Decembrists band might be the most popular *now* but certainly not in the history of the label. I changed the sentence so it is now 97% opinion-free. Monkeyfacebag 03:38, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
Unless there is some citable evidence for this closing sentence in the weighty introductory paragraph (i.e. marked consensus in the press or elsewhere in media in the characteristics describing the business practices of Kill Rock Stars), then I would like move for a rewrite on this article. I ask for a rewrite also because I think it needs to be better "Wikified" to conform to format.
When I talk about the 'closing sentence' I mean the following, which reads like pure hearsay in my view:
"The label has shown a marked trend in becoming more commerical, and L.A. based major label artist and producer Linda Perry of 4 non-blonds reissued her solo album on KRS in 2005, a very bourgeois, commercial move for the label, one which some diehard fans felt called into question the label's past strictly punk rock ethos."
Thanks for any consideration.
JuniorMuruin 20:56, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Although it might be legitimate to believe that Kill Rock Stars has become more commercial, the examples cited are poor. When Kill Rock Stars signed the Decemberists they had sold 800 records of their debut album. Signing the Decemberists was well withint KRS's pattern of signing unestablished artists and trying to help them grow. I don't understand why the Decemberists' success is indicative of a move toward being "more commercial" if similar successes years earlier with Sleater-Kinney and Elliott Smith were not considered "more commercial." Kill Rock Stars licensed Linda Perry's album directly from her and the only way it could be construed as a "major label affiliation" is that the album originally appeared on a major label ten years earlier, but after 7 years the rights reverted to the artist, who licensed the album to Kill Rock Stars. Although Linda Perry has enjoyed success as a band member of 4 Non Blondes, and as a songwriter, she has never enjoyed commercial success as a solo artist, and the reissue of her solo album on Kill Rock Stars only sold a few thousand units, which can hardly be considered "commercial."
- Slim Moon— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.41.60.201 ( talk) 05:13, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
The first page in the list of references is http://www.killrockstars.com/about/about.html which is 404. The site's about page is now at http://www.killrockstars.com/about. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdz ( talk • contribs) 15:31, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Shouldn't Mary Lou Lord be mentioned here someplace. RichardBond ( talk) 02:18, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
Wasn't KRS in the old synagogue downtown? If so, it should be mentioned in the article, given that the old temple is a prominent local landmark and has notable historical significance; it places KRS as an especially noteworthy and high-profile Olympia business in that era. Laodah 20:47, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
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I don't know, but this looks more to me like a description of famous people from Olympia than a description of the record label.
--aviado—Preceding undated comment added 08:00, 22 February 2003 (UTC)
- Such famous musicians such as Kurt Cobain of Nirvana, John Wozniak of Marcy Playground, and Jason Frost of Love Junkies frequented and lived in this tiny Western Musical Town in the early 1990s.
Is it possible to quantify the loss or gain of "indie cred?" Maybe I just object to the wording, or maybe I'm just being overly critical. Thoughts? -- djrobgordon 23:05, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
I don't agree that the Decembrists are the most popular product of KRS. I've never even heard of them. This Decembrists band might be the most popular *now* but certainly not in the history of the label. I changed the sentence so it is now 97% opinion-free. Monkeyfacebag 03:38, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
Unless there is some citable evidence for this closing sentence in the weighty introductory paragraph (i.e. marked consensus in the press or elsewhere in media in the characteristics describing the business practices of Kill Rock Stars), then I would like move for a rewrite on this article. I ask for a rewrite also because I think it needs to be better "Wikified" to conform to format.
When I talk about the 'closing sentence' I mean the following, which reads like pure hearsay in my view:
"The label has shown a marked trend in becoming more commerical, and L.A. based major label artist and producer Linda Perry of 4 non-blonds reissued her solo album on KRS in 2005, a very bourgeois, commercial move for the label, one which some diehard fans felt called into question the label's past strictly punk rock ethos."
Thanks for any consideration.
JuniorMuruin 20:56, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Although it might be legitimate to believe that Kill Rock Stars has become more commercial, the examples cited are poor. When Kill Rock Stars signed the Decemberists they had sold 800 records of their debut album. Signing the Decemberists was well withint KRS's pattern of signing unestablished artists and trying to help them grow. I don't understand why the Decemberists' success is indicative of a move toward being "more commercial" if similar successes years earlier with Sleater-Kinney and Elliott Smith were not considered "more commercial." Kill Rock Stars licensed Linda Perry's album directly from her and the only way it could be construed as a "major label affiliation" is that the album originally appeared on a major label ten years earlier, but after 7 years the rights reverted to the artist, who licensed the album to Kill Rock Stars. Although Linda Perry has enjoyed success as a band member of 4 Non Blondes, and as a songwriter, she has never enjoyed commercial success as a solo artist, and the reissue of her solo album on Kill Rock Stars only sold a few thousand units, which can hardly be considered "commercial."
- Slim Moon— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.41.60.201 ( talk) 05:13, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
The first page in the list of references is http://www.killrockstars.com/about/about.html which is 404. The site's about page is now at http://www.killrockstars.com/about. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdz ( talk • contribs) 15:31, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Shouldn't Mary Lou Lord be mentioned here someplace. RichardBond ( talk) 02:18, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
Wasn't KRS in the old synagogue downtown? If so, it should be mentioned in the article, given that the old temple is a prominent local landmark and has notable historical significance; it places KRS as an especially noteworthy and high-profile Olympia business in that era. Laodah 20:47, 23 November 2020 (UTC)