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The only Ballylinch I know is the studfarm that forms part of Mt.Juliet Estate. If so it is over 10kms from Kilkenny City and is not relevant to this article. I've removed this entry as its incorrect and also seems to be a verbatim copy of content on another site. -- MickMac 10:23, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Just a thought - is Beamish stout not brewed in Kilkenny also?
Zoney 23:51, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Nay, it's brewed in Cork.
Quentin Peigné.
I've moved sport to County Kilkenny as it refers to county Kilkenny. CGorman 22:20, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Sorry guys, but Kilkenny is just a town.
The above quotation of the law accepts that Kilkenny is a city, at least in name, as it is refered to as such. Any former capital is a city.
Whoever is moderating this must be from Kilkenny TOWN. I edited the page to say town where it said city but it has been edited back. There are 5 cities in the Rebublic of Ireland, Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Galway and Waterford. Not Kilkenny, it is a heritage city as is Wexford. Towns like Dundalk, Tralee and Ennis are larger, but the fact remains that there are only 5 CITIES in Ireland. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.46.92.134 ( talk) 15:48, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Tying in with the above, isn't "Ireland's smallest city" something akin to the "world's tallest midget"? 71.244.133.88 19:25, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
I have updated the way the population is presented, fundementally the only important figures are those for the city itself, i.e. the area of the council as by law defined. "Environs" is a meaningless term in modern society. Djegan 18:11, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
A discussion at talk:cities in Ireland which effects Kilkenny on these pages. Comments welcome. Djegan 17:58, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Unfortunately it appears content (irrespective of quality) is now determined by straw votes, see Talk:Cities in Ireland. Comments welcome. Djegan 19:29, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
A formal discussion is not an absolute requirement on a merger proposal, indeed a proposal is not required to merge, but a consensus is ideal in controversial cases. Theirfore I say move forward and merge The Marble City directly in without discussion and use it as a redirect as it is not going to be controversial. A clear cut case for merger without discussion. Djegan 23:31, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
I agree. Michael O' Carroll 19:30, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Oh my god! They Kil'Kenny! The bastards! JIP | Talk 19:10, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
Fluffy?! mintchocolate 07:55, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
A native from your town, William Byrnes started my hometown Burnsville. He emigrated in mid-1800s. With a town the size of less than 10,000 people someone there has to know something about him or his kin. Just looking for information, please post on my talk page or on the Burnsville talk page. Funny though our town is about 60,000 strong now compared to the place he left for America :) Albeit no marble to be had. .:DavuMaya:. 20:34, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
"Kilkenny enjoys the warmest temperatures in Ireland, according to statistics. It is frequently as hot as 26°C in the summer months, reaching a whopping 33°C (92°F) in the summer of 2006."
Jan | Feb | Mar | Apr | May | Jun | Jul | Aug | Sep | Oct | Nov | Dec | Year | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Average daily maximum temperature ( °C) | 8 | 8 | 10 | 13 | 17 | 19 | 22 | 23 | 20 | 15 | 10 | 8 | 14 | |
Average daily minimum temperature ( °C) | 3 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 7 | 10 | 12 | 12 | 10 | 7 | 5 | 4 | 7 | |
Mean total rainfall ( cm) | 5.34 | 4.29 | 3.84 | 3.98 | 3.40 | 3.72 | 3.38 | 4.22 | 4.33 | 6.35 | 5.07 | 5.03 | 52.95 | |
Source: [2] |
What is this supposed to mean?
I'm totally baffled, unless it's saying that it's the only city in Ireland that is not on the coast. Unschool ( talk) 01:23, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
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I have reveted changes by User:Esteban2008( [3]) and User:195.212.29.83( [4]) which have changed kilkenny status from city to town. For more on the subject see Talk:Cities in Ireland. I a not totally against such a change but no discussion has taken place and User:Esteban2008( Contributions) has changed Kilkenny and Waterford to town status in the 4 edits that he/she has made, I believe more discussion is needed.
The removal of the line [5] by User:Esteban2008
does not help the reader understand why kilkenny might or might not be a City, also the addition of line [6]
is not referenced to anything. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrchris ( talk • contribs) 14:53, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
According to this BBC article the death rate in Kilkenny due to the Black Death could have been 100% - not sure if that's true but if so, definitely worth mentioning [7] -- 213.94.229.173 ( talk) 11:48, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Practically nothing in the "12th century" has anything to do with Kilkenny (including the image). I propose deleting this section, and perhaps placing the image in a more suitable article (if it isn't there already). Hohenloh + 16:27, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Following Wikipedia:WikiProject_Cities/Guideline#History and Wikipedia:UKCITIES#History. Moved all Kilkenny#History sections to new article History of Kilkenny. Both this section and History of Kilkenny need better summarys. Mrchris ( talk) 03:26, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
I think that maybe in uses like "Kilkenny is in a sheltered location, over 60 kilometres (37 mi) inland" are ok to have as just normal miles or kilometres.
But, when writing "Nearby larger cities include Waterford 45 kilometres (28 mi) south-southeast, Limerick 93 kilometres (58 mi) west and Dublin 101 kilometres (63 mi) northeast" shouldn't the figure in road miles ie. Dublin 80 miles from Kilkenny by road? -- 89.100.72.226 ( talk) 15:49, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, that wasn't very clear. What I meant was use the figure in road kilometres (miles).
Actual: "Nearby larger cities include Waterford 45 kilometres (28 mi) south-southeast, Limerick 93 kilometres (58 mi) west and Dublin 101 kilometres (63 mi) northeast"
Road Miles: "Nearby larger cities include Waterford 50 kilometres (31 mi) south-southeast, Limerick 126 kilometres (79 mi) west and Dublin 124 kilometres (77 mi) northeast" -- 89.100.72.226 ( talk) 10:18, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
Following reflection and investigation, I believe User:89.100.72.226 employs the term normal miles to indicate staight-line distances (as the crow flies) and road miles to mean distances travelled on winding roads, as measured by a car's odometer.
I took the distances he cited and checked them on Google Maps using both the straight-line measuring tool (normal miles), and its driving directions tool (road miles). I confirmed that Kilkenny is in fact "over 60km" ( i.e. 66 km) from the coast at Curracloe, Wexford—in a straight line. I confirmed the other straight-line distances cited too, to Waterford (45 km), Dublin (101 km), and Limerick (93 km). The odometer distances I found using Google's driving directions tool were, Waterford 49 km (4 km longer by road miles), Dublin 124 km (23 km longer by road miles), and by far the largest deviation, Limerick 128 km, (35 km longer by road miles). The latter deviation for Limerick is so great because Google suggests driving 40 km north on the N7 to the M7, before turning west, so the driven route is very indirect, though presumably faster. Selecting Google's suggestion for a walking route to Limerick, which is more direct using minor roads, the distance to Limerick by foot is 107 km (14 km longer by road miles).
As crow flies | By car | Walking | Difference | |
Waterford | 45 | 49 | – | 4 |
Dublin | 101 | 124 | – | 23 |
Limerick | 93 | 128 | 107 | 35, or 14 |
No-one is surprised that the crow enjoys a shorter route than the driver or walker, but the question is, what is the professional geographer's convention when citing distances between cities for an encyclopaedia? Wikipedia is not a road atlas, so why would it cite distances by road? Perhaps Wikipedia has a stated policy on this question buried away somewhere in its Help section. — O'Dea 04:12, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
I'd appreciate it if you could put a link to www.kilkennyshopping.com on the Kilkenny Wikipedia page please.
Many thanks
86.45.25.171 ( talk) 15:02, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
I'm confused by the sentence "The borough has a population of 8,661, however the majority of the population live outside the borough boundary". Is the borough not the city? If so, then the borough contains the city's population. How then can the majority of the population live outside the borough? If the borough does not define the geographic limit of the city, then what does? Laurel Lodged ( talk) 09:29, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
Does anybody know when the description "marble city" was first given to Kilkenny, and by whom? 93.107.2.255 ( talk) 21:22, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
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Could you give a citation. Thanks. Mrchris ( talk)
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I feel this article is “missing a trick” by not mentioning the fact that Kilkenny punches *way* above its weight for an Irish provincial town in the area of excellent restaurants.
Also - I think I remember Kilkenny making it into Condé Nest “Traveller” list “Top Ten Friendliest Places in the World.” A few years back.
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The only Ballylinch I know is the studfarm that forms part of Mt.Juliet Estate. If so it is over 10kms from Kilkenny City and is not relevant to this article. I've removed this entry as its incorrect and also seems to be a verbatim copy of content on another site. -- MickMac 10:23, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Just a thought - is Beamish stout not brewed in Kilkenny also?
Zoney 23:51, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Nay, it's brewed in Cork.
Quentin Peigné.
I've moved sport to County Kilkenny as it refers to county Kilkenny. CGorman 22:20, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Sorry guys, but Kilkenny is just a town.
The above quotation of the law accepts that Kilkenny is a city, at least in name, as it is refered to as such. Any former capital is a city.
Whoever is moderating this must be from Kilkenny TOWN. I edited the page to say town where it said city but it has been edited back. There are 5 cities in the Rebublic of Ireland, Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Galway and Waterford. Not Kilkenny, it is a heritage city as is Wexford. Towns like Dundalk, Tralee and Ennis are larger, but the fact remains that there are only 5 CITIES in Ireland. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.46.92.134 ( talk) 15:48, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Tying in with the above, isn't "Ireland's smallest city" something akin to the "world's tallest midget"? 71.244.133.88 19:25, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
I have updated the way the population is presented, fundementally the only important figures are those for the city itself, i.e. the area of the council as by law defined. "Environs" is a meaningless term in modern society. Djegan 18:11, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
A discussion at talk:cities in Ireland which effects Kilkenny on these pages. Comments welcome. Djegan 17:58, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Unfortunately it appears content (irrespective of quality) is now determined by straw votes, see Talk:Cities in Ireland. Comments welcome. Djegan 19:29, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
A formal discussion is not an absolute requirement on a merger proposal, indeed a proposal is not required to merge, but a consensus is ideal in controversial cases. Theirfore I say move forward and merge The Marble City directly in without discussion and use it as a redirect as it is not going to be controversial. A clear cut case for merger without discussion. Djegan 23:31, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
I agree. Michael O' Carroll 19:30, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Oh my god! They Kil'Kenny! The bastards! JIP | Talk 19:10, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
Fluffy?! mintchocolate 07:55, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
A native from your town, William Byrnes started my hometown Burnsville. He emigrated in mid-1800s. With a town the size of less than 10,000 people someone there has to know something about him or his kin. Just looking for information, please post on my talk page or on the Burnsville talk page. Funny though our town is about 60,000 strong now compared to the place he left for America :) Albeit no marble to be had. .:DavuMaya:. 20:34, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
"Kilkenny enjoys the warmest temperatures in Ireland, according to statistics. It is frequently as hot as 26°C in the summer months, reaching a whopping 33°C (92°F) in the summer of 2006."
Jan | Feb | Mar | Apr | May | Jun | Jul | Aug | Sep | Oct | Nov | Dec | Year | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Average daily maximum temperature ( °C) | 8 | 8 | 10 | 13 | 17 | 19 | 22 | 23 | 20 | 15 | 10 | 8 | 14 | |
Average daily minimum temperature ( °C) | 3 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 7 | 10 | 12 | 12 | 10 | 7 | 5 | 4 | 7 | |
Mean total rainfall ( cm) | 5.34 | 4.29 | 3.84 | 3.98 | 3.40 | 3.72 | 3.38 | 4.22 | 4.33 | 6.35 | 5.07 | 5.03 | 52.95 | |
Source: [2] |
What is this supposed to mean?
I'm totally baffled, unless it's saying that it's the only city in Ireland that is not on the coast. Unschool ( talk) 01:23, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
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I have reveted changes by User:Esteban2008( [3]) and User:195.212.29.83( [4]) which have changed kilkenny status from city to town. For more on the subject see Talk:Cities in Ireland. I a not totally against such a change but no discussion has taken place and User:Esteban2008( Contributions) has changed Kilkenny and Waterford to town status in the 4 edits that he/she has made, I believe more discussion is needed.
The removal of the line [5] by User:Esteban2008
does not help the reader understand why kilkenny might or might not be a City, also the addition of line [6]
is not referenced to anything. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrchris ( talk • contribs) 14:53, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
According to this BBC article the death rate in Kilkenny due to the Black Death could have been 100% - not sure if that's true but if so, definitely worth mentioning [7] -- 213.94.229.173 ( talk) 11:48, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Practically nothing in the "12th century" has anything to do with Kilkenny (including the image). I propose deleting this section, and perhaps placing the image in a more suitable article (if it isn't there already). Hohenloh + 16:27, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Following Wikipedia:WikiProject_Cities/Guideline#History and Wikipedia:UKCITIES#History. Moved all Kilkenny#History sections to new article History of Kilkenny. Both this section and History of Kilkenny need better summarys. Mrchris ( talk) 03:26, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
I think that maybe in uses like "Kilkenny is in a sheltered location, over 60 kilometres (37 mi) inland" are ok to have as just normal miles or kilometres.
But, when writing "Nearby larger cities include Waterford 45 kilometres (28 mi) south-southeast, Limerick 93 kilometres (58 mi) west and Dublin 101 kilometres (63 mi) northeast" shouldn't the figure in road miles ie. Dublin 80 miles from Kilkenny by road? -- 89.100.72.226 ( talk) 15:49, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, that wasn't very clear. What I meant was use the figure in road kilometres (miles).
Actual: "Nearby larger cities include Waterford 45 kilometres (28 mi) south-southeast, Limerick 93 kilometres (58 mi) west and Dublin 101 kilometres (63 mi) northeast"
Road Miles: "Nearby larger cities include Waterford 50 kilometres (31 mi) south-southeast, Limerick 126 kilometres (79 mi) west and Dublin 124 kilometres (77 mi) northeast" -- 89.100.72.226 ( talk) 10:18, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
Following reflection and investigation, I believe User:89.100.72.226 employs the term normal miles to indicate staight-line distances (as the crow flies) and road miles to mean distances travelled on winding roads, as measured by a car's odometer.
I took the distances he cited and checked them on Google Maps using both the straight-line measuring tool (normal miles), and its driving directions tool (road miles). I confirmed that Kilkenny is in fact "over 60km" ( i.e. 66 km) from the coast at Curracloe, Wexford—in a straight line. I confirmed the other straight-line distances cited too, to Waterford (45 km), Dublin (101 km), and Limerick (93 km). The odometer distances I found using Google's driving directions tool were, Waterford 49 km (4 km longer by road miles), Dublin 124 km (23 km longer by road miles), and by far the largest deviation, Limerick 128 km, (35 km longer by road miles). The latter deviation for Limerick is so great because Google suggests driving 40 km north on the N7 to the M7, before turning west, so the driven route is very indirect, though presumably faster. Selecting Google's suggestion for a walking route to Limerick, which is more direct using minor roads, the distance to Limerick by foot is 107 km (14 km longer by road miles).
As crow flies | By car | Walking | Difference | |
Waterford | 45 | 49 | – | 4 |
Dublin | 101 | 124 | – | 23 |
Limerick | 93 | 128 | 107 | 35, or 14 |
No-one is surprised that the crow enjoys a shorter route than the driver or walker, but the question is, what is the professional geographer's convention when citing distances between cities for an encyclopaedia? Wikipedia is not a road atlas, so why would it cite distances by road? Perhaps Wikipedia has a stated policy on this question buried away somewhere in its Help section. — O'Dea 04:12, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
I'd appreciate it if you could put a link to www.kilkennyshopping.com on the Kilkenny Wikipedia page please.
Many thanks
86.45.25.171 ( talk) 15:02, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
I'm confused by the sentence "The borough has a population of 8,661, however the majority of the population live outside the borough boundary". Is the borough not the city? If so, then the borough contains the city's population. How then can the majority of the population live outside the borough? If the borough does not define the geographic limit of the city, then what does? Laurel Lodged ( talk) 09:29, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
Does anybody know when the description "marble city" was first given to Kilkenny, and by whom? 93.107.2.255 ( talk) 21:22, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
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I feel this article is “missing a trick” by not mentioning the fact that Kilkenny punches *way* above its weight for an Irish provincial town in the area of excellent restaurants.
Also - I think I remember Kilkenny making it into Condé Nest “Traveller” list “Top Ten Friendliest Places in the World.” A few years back.
Ethnicolor ( talk) 20:55, 28 February 2019 (UTC)