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![]() | On 12 November 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Sverdlove to Kholodne, Donetsk Raion, Donetsk Oblast. The result of the discussion was moved. |
The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) EggRoll97 ( talk) 00:26, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
– I decided to make this a (limited) multimove because I realized - belatedly - that it's pretty annoying to have numerous move discussions where the exact same arguments are being repeated in parallel.
The name "Sverdlove" is completely unheard of in English-language sources past 2016. See this Google research [1]. I get exactly zero results with Google Books and News. Same goes for Kholodne. [2]
For "Voikovskyi", the same results were found, with zero human-written English coverage. [3] I also searched for all the spelling variations I could think of and still got nothing. (I didn't bother trying to search for sources with the new name because there are so many settlements with that name in Ukraine that I thought it would be basically impossible to narrow the search to just the one in Donetsk Raion.)
In the absence of the old name being the WP:COMMONNAME, we should use the official name given to these settlements by the Ukrainian government that is legally recognized as having sovereignty over it. See WP:UAPLACE, and precedents at Talk:Buran, Ukraine and Talk:Sofiivka, Horlivka Raion, Donetsk Oblast. HappyWith ( talk) 04:16, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
The nominator consistently ignores my argumentit's not like anyone's arguments are set in stone and cannot be challenged. You voice your opinion and others voice theirs. Usually most people support the move (not always) and consensus is formed. Super Dromaeosaurus ( talk) 10:53, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
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![]() | On 12 November 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Sverdlove to Kholodne, Donetsk Raion, Donetsk Oblast. The result of the discussion was moved. |
The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) EggRoll97 ( talk) 00:26, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
– I decided to make this a (limited) multimove because I realized - belatedly - that it's pretty annoying to have numerous move discussions where the exact same arguments are being repeated in parallel.
The name "Sverdlove" is completely unheard of in English-language sources past 2016. See this Google research [1]. I get exactly zero results with Google Books and News. Same goes for Kholodne. [2]
For "Voikovskyi", the same results were found, with zero human-written English coverage. [3] I also searched for all the spelling variations I could think of and still got nothing. (I didn't bother trying to search for sources with the new name because there are so many settlements with that name in Ukraine that I thought it would be basically impossible to narrow the search to just the one in Donetsk Raion.)
In the absence of the old name being the WP:COMMONNAME, we should use the official name given to these settlements by the Ukrainian government that is legally recognized as having sovereignty over it. See WP:UAPLACE, and precedents at Talk:Buran, Ukraine and Talk:Sofiivka, Horlivka Raion, Donetsk Oblast. HappyWith ( talk) 04:16, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
The nominator consistently ignores my argumentit's not like anyone's arguments are set in stone and cannot be challenged. You voice your opinion and others voice theirs. Usually most people support the move (not always) and consensus is formed. Super Dromaeosaurus ( talk) 10:53, 12 November 2023 (UTC)