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Is he of Italian descent? Newager 15:22, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
Kevin Sorbo is of Norweigen heritage — Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.27.46.73 ( talk) 22:31, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
I have a link to a page of mine about his hometown of Mound, Minnesota. It is www.MoundWestonka.com. I'd like some opinions about whether or not it belongs on this page, before I would post it. As far as I know, the last time he was here was in 1997 for his class re-union. My pages have a picture of the park named after him, and him appearing on a mural.
And yes, I would say he is a Lutheran Norwegian, from what I recall, and his parents first names. Ask him if he eats Lutefisk sometime? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.214.202.204 ( talk) 18:37, 24 February 2007. Edited 18:38. (UTC)
As to what a Lutheran Norwegian is, see Garrison Keillor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.214.202.204 ( talk) 18:40, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
It's been a couple weeks, and no one has commented on my above. I'd appreciate an admin posting the link on the page, so that I can stay in Wikipedia's good graces. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.214.202.204 ( talk) 15:37, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
No, of course a link to your blog does not belong on a Wikipedia article page. Nor is what you would say or what you recall relevant. -- Jibal ( talk) 03:19, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
Kevin Sorbo had a cameo in Season 5 Episode 8 of The Guild http://www.watchtheguild.com/its-a-celebrity-party/ -- Vampus ( talk) 14:48, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
In this 100 Huntley Street interview he openly talks about being a Christian in Hollywood, including mentioning he has turned down roles due to his faith http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=bn4MnuSGIko 142.229.80.250 ( talk) 01:17, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
"As he takes on Christian films, such as What if … and Soul Surfer while also leaving room for secular films, his only wish is to change the face of Hollywood as we know it. His personal worry is, what will the public consider normal when most things portrayed tell us that our innate moral views might probably be wrong.“Hollywood likes to put out their own message out a lot of times, and that message isn't the best one for everyone,” he noted. “If you keep saying two plus two equals five over and over again, then that is what people are going to think. Maybe it does equal five if we keep changing the definition of what’s normal and what's right and what's wrong.” Sorbo’s concern also carries over to how much Christianity is being bullied by the press over and over again. He lamented, “Christianity takes this beating that I really don’t understand and yet you can't say anything negative about the Muslims because that's horrible, you can't say anything negative about other faiths.“ Through his new roles, he hopes to not only stop the big bullies from beating down Christianity but also transform Hollywood by refining its definition of what is truly right and what is truly good."( Kevin Sorbo – Christian Hercules in Hollywood March 2011 interview on ChristianPost.com) 84.152.41.50 ( talk) 18:57, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
This film is missing from his history. Was this an oversight? 2601:D:1100:430:3510:DB05:B0DD:D6B3 ( talk) 06:00, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. Should Sorbo's recent appearances in the news for his commentary on Ferguson be a part of this page? 05:50, 28 August 2014 (UTC) My thoughts: Hullaballoo_Wolfowitz removed additions to this entry regarding Sorbo's controversial comments about demonstrators in Ferguson, citing them as distortion not true to the sources (though they were quotes from Sorbo himself unaltered, so that seems odd.) Perhaps the wording of that content is questionable and should be altered, but if so some suggested edit would be more appropriate than deleting the content wholesale. Consider these points, however: 1) This is probably the only time Sorbo has made headline news in years. 2) His politics and personal beliefs (including his belief that he's the target of industry discrimination) are all over this article as it stands, and not including this part seems like cherry picking. If we're going to devote time to talking about his relationship with the media and his beliefs, this seems like the most notable example of that playing out. Does anyone agree, or have a better way of writing it, or is the consensus that this information shouldn't be included? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.64.211.150 ( talk) 00:26, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for opening up a line of dialogue (even if it took some prodding.) I'm not an editor here and use public wifi, so I'm not sure what other history you think I have, but I only know how to start a discussion because I Googled it—it doesn't take a genius. Even so, if I were a sockpuppet (again, I'm not) that seems like an ad hominem issue unrelated to whether I'm wrong or not. And it's certainly not assuming good faith, which I do know to be a thing we're encouraged to do. To your point, however—"Wikipedia is not a place where we memorialize any stupid thing a celebrity may said" — no, certainly not, at least not just for the sake of doing so, but controversial events (related to celebrities or not) are indeed something common in entries, and in this case I maintain that it's the most noteworthy instance of Sorbo's activities even being relevant in modern years. Mainstream news didn't follow the gripping story of the time he hurt his shoulder filming Kull the Conqueror or whatever, but it certainly has followed this. Is it not noteworthy just because it's "embarassing" to the subject? I'm not going to argue it, I certainly have better things to do, but that's my point of view—I'll leave it to others to form a consensus and whatever happens, happens, but I honestly don't get where you're coming from (or your passive-aggressiveness about it.) 50.194.39.67 ( talk) 18:30, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
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I'm not a regular editor here and have no plan to return after posting this. Just wanted to point out that, as I write this, the infobox photo caption reads: "Sorbo at GateCon in 2013" while the file description by the photographer at Wikimedia Commons reads: "Kevin Sorbo on the set of "House of Fears" in 2013."
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I replaced "Kull" with the Jim Beam commercial as one of the roles, he is most known for, and this edit was just undone. I find this rather odd. "Kull" was a generic direct-to-video Fantasy flick, which was rather "most known for starring Sorbo, who at that time was already known as Hercules", then the other way round.
The "Jim Beam" commercial on the other hand was the one production, his face at least (of course not his name) was getting some buzz. The "This ain't Jim Beam" line was often cited, and also I remember, when the first four "Hercules" movies were aired, virtually everybody, in class room as well as in TV guide articles, stated: "That's the guy from the Whisky commercial." I even know a couple of guys, who got their first drunken stupor with that brand of liquor, because of that commecial. And I think, it was aired as well for a long period of time after he became "Hercules", and even in commercial breaks during the Hercules show. So, add that together, there is NO WAY, that he is better known for "Kull".-- 93.111.43.22 ( talk) 11:41, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
The time of his strokes is accurate, but the article states that this affected the last two seasons, season 5 & 6 being the last two seasons. This is not correct. This also affected the 4th Season, and probably more heavily than others, as large parts of the production wasn't finished until 1998, such as the episode "Porkules" which was shot in January of 98, several months after his health crisis. The episode, featuring Sorbo voicing over for a pig, as opposed to featuring him in a major on screen presence, even serves as an example of how they adjusted film production around. I suggest better wordsmiths than I, adjust the article to reflect that it was the 4th (in particular) and 5th Season that was most heavily affected by Sorbo's health problems.
173.218.98.78 ( talk) 01:22, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
The Health section included "Sorbo experienced an aneurysm in his shoulder which caused four strokes.", but the HuffPo reference says "aneurysm followed by three strokes". cbn.com ref not useful, because now redirects to CBN homepage and wayback doesn't have useful text:
Changed "four strokes" to "three strokes". -- EarthFurst ( talk) 00:37, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
Is there really a need for citation right before the whole part of him saying that jews killed jesus? Seems unnecessary and self-evident.
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Under personal life, it should be included that Sorbo publicly supported the storming of the United States Capitol on January 6, 2021 via Tweeting from his verified account.
https://twitter.com/ksorbs/status/1346898602984144896
https://twitter.com/ksorbs/status/1346913575080759314 2600:6C67:5000:6448:6184:6599:6C01:6292 ( talk) 00:40, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
I agree that this should be brought up in his personal life section. Basically his entire social media presence revolves around his political beliefs, which include the false claim that the 2020 United States Presidential Election was stolen. However, there is zero reference in the article to his political beliefs. Source: Nearly all of his Twitter posts. https://twitter.com/ksorbs Wikipedian24601 ( talk) 02:05, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
Stolen election claims: https://twitter.com/ksorbs/status/1326179983954505729 https://twitter.com/ksorbs/status/1324117412246147073 Wikipedian24601 ( talk) 03:17, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
the whole blood (exc. from lungs) from everyones body parts goes back to the heart and then to the lungs - so any blood clots from an arm or leg have to induce lung embolism - see: /info/en/?search=Pulmonary_embolism
this here: The strokes, thought to be triggered when chiropractic manipulation of his shoulder released blood clots from the aneurysm, left Sorbo with a permanent 10 percent vision loss, weakness, impaired balance, and migraines
medically or mechanically dont make any sense, if an arm (or leg) aneurysm is the prime source for any blood clots inducing strokes in brains, without another underlying condition, disease or drugs present.
just my three groschen! Gpmalek76 ( talk) 21:29, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
Editor opinions aren't relevant to Wikipedia, which is based on reliable sources. -- Jibal ( talk) 03:35, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
Kevin Sorbo is the owner of the wildly successful Zorba’s bar and restaurant chain. 2600:1008:B120:F7D7:F5A1:5097:B769:4421 ( talk) 01:59, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
I made a previous inclusion of this, now removed for some reason? In 2019, this was widely reported after she accused him publicly on Twitter, stating he had done it three times to her while making the movie Single in South Beach, tried to pressure and/or shame her on-set, to submit to him and tried to get movie's director to include a sex scene so he could touch her, see her undressed etc. Why was mention of this removed? It was a notable incident in his public image, obviously an allegation like that is significant even if no legal action results, so why the removal please? BakedEel ( talk) 23:10, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
In 2020, Kevin Sorbo joined Oxford professor, mathematician, and philosopher Dr. John Lennox, to create a unique travelogue-documentary involving a deeper look into the relationship between modern science, world history, and early Christianity. Against The Tide is the story of one man’s daring pushback against the onslaught of contemporary atheism and its drive to relegate belief in God to society’s catalogue of dead ideas. 214.28.226.88 ( talk) 10:04, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
He's not a politician so why is his political party stated? And how do we know? There's no citation and no discussion of party membership or politics in the article. (It's obviously true that he's a Republican from his tweets, but that's not how Wikipedia works). -- Jibal ( talk) 03:41, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
This seems to be a bit of a bizarre situation here... just an image of him at TP (is it supposed to be just an implication? Or, if people don't know what it is, then, unless they click the link, people will successfully not know he's political...?) - and no, ramos1990, it doesn't seem to be an excellent point, as (besides the fact Deniro has in the sidebar, but this thread isn't about sidebars)... usually they do have sections, whether 'activism' or 'politics', so it was a surprise to not find it here, as this isn't some minor thing for Kevin, and just like Deniro has three long paragraphs, so should Kevin... I mean, as it is what exactly is it implying? That he's just some Christian, and somehow that is exclusively why he's not very desired in the industry? Of course not... so, as it is this article is merely distorting the reality of his biography... and no, ramos, it's not merely 'tabloid'... whatever that means in the context of 'celebrities', tabloid being usually what focus they get (so this surely should just be about whether they're reliable or not)... and huffpost is already referenced for one thing, so why not another? If it's 'tabloid' for the antivaxxer tweet, ramos, why is it not a tabloid for the strokes? Also, there is a Republican category... with no explanation? This is why the article seems bizarre... 88.104.26.151 ( talk) 16:57, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for the post on the noticeboard.
I agree with Ramos1990, Emir of Wikipedia, Ponyo, and Blablubbs on the sexual misconduct removal for very poor sourcing and potential WP:SYN on one of them. Much stronger sources are needed and I could not find any online. No issues were ever raised legally or seriously by either women. No recent updates at all on this either. WP:BLPREMOVE applies here.
In terms of the politics stuff, it does not seem like much of the content is relevant to the article. Much of the sources revolve around commenting on Sorbo's tweets - which can be taken out of context and slanted by any source. I agree with Ramos1990 in that not everything that is published on a person belongs on Wikipedia. His views on vaccines are not relevant anymore. The pandemic is gone and since he did get vaccinated to do filming in another country, it makes no sense to use Wikipedia to spread such content per WP:BLPGOSSIP.
In terms of political views, everyone has one and everyone has an opinion on every topic. But that does not mean it belongs on Wikipedia. It can be challenged and removed either way since it is true that political affiliations do change and is a private matter. Even if reliable sources exist, that does not mean it belongs in the biography of a person. From what I looked at, Sorbo is barely mentioned in passing on the source for CPAC and for the other stuff like his opinion on the vaccine stuff, it is all based on his tweets and end up being opinion pieces than true journalism. These are not news. I am sure you can find actors commenting on almost any topic from natural disasters to political candidates especially through twitter, but much of this is not relevant to the biography and requires higher quality journalism than opinion pieces.
We should really strive for better sourcing and better relevance when controversial matters are being considered on a biography page. We do not want Wikipedia to contribute to defamation or misinforming about an individual if we can avoid it. It should contain neutral content too. desmay ( talk) 19:37, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
I suspect the snippet of the page which shows up when you search it has been griefed to say he is gay:
(my bold) "Kevin David Sorbo (born September 24, 1958 [1]) is an openly gay American actor. He had starring roles in two television series: as Hercules in Hercules: The Legendary Journeys, and as Captain Dylan Hunt in Andromeda. Sorbo is also known for acting in the Christian films such as God's Not Dead and Let There Be Light ." BonkeySmoke ( talk) 18:05, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
I am hoping that the politics stuff is adequately sourced and close to a consensus version. The reason that I feel strongly about the inclusion of this material is that according to Google, Google News, and DuckDuckGo, this has become the primary source of Sorbo's current notablity, as is evidenced by many of the sources cited. There should also be a sentence about this in the lead, something along the lines of "In recent years, Sorbo's political statements have caused some controversy." I welcome other suggestions for how this part of the article should be described in the lead.
It seems to me that the Career section would be made stronger by trimming mentions of jobs for which the article provides no context or discussion. All of that information is nicely displayed in the Filmography. I don't mind doing this myself, but I wanted to check in here to see if there is support for this or if someone who has been more involved in the article would like to step up. This might eliminate some of the claims tagged as in need of better sourcing, and it should also eliminate the need for the banner I added objecting to the apparently indiscriminate selection of what information is included. (Another approach would be to impose more structure with subheads.) Right now it's just clunky and will probably put off some readers.
This section also needs to include something along the following lines:
In 2019, Sorbo was accused of sexual harassment during the 2015 filming of Single in South Beach. Haley Webb alleged on Twitter that he attempted to pressure her into sex during the filming and tried to shame her on set for rejecting him, before trying to convince the film's director to add unnecessary sex scenes between their characters. Sorbo did not publicly respond to the allegation, and it did not lead to litigation. [1] [2]
It does not require its own header, but you can't just leave out a #MeTo allegation. This is definitely of potential interest to many readers, and the fact of the allegation is not in dispute. We just must take care to present it neutrally avoid giving it undo prominence with disproportionately extended coverage in the article. (I found nothing, incidentally, that would support including Kandyse McClure.)
The inclusion of this material would remove my only remaining objection to the neutrality of the article currently flagged by the banner at the top.
The one other thing I would note is that there do appear to be good sources on Sorbo's allegation against Versace. I didn't do the research, but this could be added as a short section under "Personal life" at a later date.
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Is he of Italian descent? Newager 15:22, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
Kevin Sorbo is of Norweigen heritage — Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.27.46.73 ( talk) 22:31, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
I have a link to a page of mine about his hometown of Mound, Minnesota. It is www.MoundWestonka.com. I'd like some opinions about whether or not it belongs on this page, before I would post it. As far as I know, the last time he was here was in 1997 for his class re-union. My pages have a picture of the park named after him, and him appearing on a mural.
And yes, I would say he is a Lutheran Norwegian, from what I recall, and his parents first names. Ask him if he eats Lutefisk sometime? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.214.202.204 ( talk) 18:37, 24 February 2007. Edited 18:38. (UTC)
As to what a Lutheran Norwegian is, see Garrison Keillor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.214.202.204 ( talk) 18:40, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
It's been a couple weeks, and no one has commented on my above. I'd appreciate an admin posting the link on the page, so that I can stay in Wikipedia's good graces. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.214.202.204 ( talk) 15:37, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
No, of course a link to your blog does not belong on a Wikipedia article page. Nor is what you would say or what you recall relevant. -- Jibal ( talk) 03:19, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
Kevin Sorbo had a cameo in Season 5 Episode 8 of The Guild http://www.watchtheguild.com/its-a-celebrity-party/ -- Vampus ( talk) 14:48, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
In this 100 Huntley Street interview he openly talks about being a Christian in Hollywood, including mentioning he has turned down roles due to his faith http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=bn4MnuSGIko 142.229.80.250 ( talk) 01:17, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
"As he takes on Christian films, such as What if … and Soul Surfer while also leaving room for secular films, his only wish is to change the face of Hollywood as we know it. His personal worry is, what will the public consider normal when most things portrayed tell us that our innate moral views might probably be wrong.“Hollywood likes to put out their own message out a lot of times, and that message isn't the best one for everyone,” he noted. “If you keep saying two plus two equals five over and over again, then that is what people are going to think. Maybe it does equal five if we keep changing the definition of what’s normal and what's right and what's wrong.” Sorbo’s concern also carries over to how much Christianity is being bullied by the press over and over again. He lamented, “Christianity takes this beating that I really don’t understand and yet you can't say anything negative about the Muslims because that's horrible, you can't say anything negative about other faiths.“ Through his new roles, he hopes to not only stop the big bullies from beating down Christianity but also transform Hollywood by refining its definition of what is truly right and what is truly good."( Kevin Sorbo – Christian Hercules in Hollywood March 2011 interview on ChristianPost.com) 84.152.41.50 ( talk) 18:57, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
This film is missing from his history. Was this an oversight? 2601:D:1100:430:3510:DB05:B0DD:D6B3 ( talk) 06:00, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. Should Sorbo's recent appearances in the news for his commentary on Ferguson be a part of this page? 05:50, 28 August 2014 (UTC) My thoughts: Hullaballoo_Wolfowitz removed additions to this entry regarding Sorbo's controversial comments about demonstrators in Ferguson, citing them as distortion not true to the sources (though they were quotes from Sorbo himself unaltered, so that seems odd.) Perhaps the wording of that content is questionable and should be altered, but if so some suggested edit would be more appropriate than deleting the content wholesale. Consider these points, however: 1) This is probably the only time Sorbo has made headline news in years. 2) His politics and personal beliefs (including his belief that he's the target of industry discrimination) are all over this article as it stands, and not including this part seems like cherry picking. If we're going to devote time to talking about his relationship with the media and his beliefs, this seems like the most notable example of that playing out. Does anyone agree, or have a better way of writing it, or is the consensus that this information shouldn't be included? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.64.211.150 ( talk) 00:26, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for opening up a line of dialogue (even if it took some prodding.) I'm not an editor here and use public wifi, so I'm not sure what other history you think I have, but I only know how to start a discussion because I Googled it—it doesn't take a genius. Even so, if I were a sockpuppet (again, I'm not) that seems like an ad hominem issue unrelated to whether I'm wrong or not. And it's certainly not assuming good faith, which I do know to be a thing we're encouraged to do. To your point, however—"Wikipedia is not a place where we memorialize any stupid thing a celebrity may said" — no, certainly not, at least not just for the sake of doing so, but controversial events (related to celebrities or not) are indeed something common in entries, and in this case I maintain that it's the most noteworthy instance of Sorbo's activities even being relevant in modern years. Mainstream news didn't follow the gripping story of the time he hurt his shoulder filming Kull the Conqueror or whatever, but it certainly has followed this. Is it not noteworthy just because it's "embarassing" to the subject? I'm not going to argue it, I certainly have better things to do, but that's my point of view—I'll leave it to others to form a consensus and whatever happens, happens, but I honestly don't get where you're coming from (or your passive-aggressiveness about it.) 50.194.39.67 ( talk) 18:30, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
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I'm not a regular editor here and have no plan to return after posting this. Just wanted to point out that, as I write this, the infobox photo caption reads: "Sorbo at GateCon in 2013" while the file description by the photographer at Wikimedia Commons reads: "Kevin Sorbo on the set of "House of Fears" in 2013."
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I replaced "Kull" with the Jim Beam commercial as one of the roles, he is most known for, and this edit was just undone. I find this rather odd. "Kull" was a generic direct-to-video Fantasy flick, which was rather "most known for starring Sorbo, who at that time was already known as Hercules", then the other way round.
The "Jim Beam" commercial on the other hand was the one production, his face at least (of course not his name) was getting some buzz. The "This ain't Jim Beam" line was often cited, and also I remember, when the first four "Hercules" movies were aired, virtually everybody, in class room as well as in TV guide articles, stated: "That's the guy from the Whisky commercial." I even know a couple of guys, who got their first drunken stupor with that brand of liquor, because of that commecial. And I think, it was aired as well for a long period of time after he became "Hercules", and even in commercial breaks during the Hercules show. So, add that together, there is NO WAY, that he is better known for "Kull".-- 93.111.43.22 ( talk) 11:41, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
The time of his strokes is accurate, but the article states that this affected the last two seasons, season 5 & 6 being the last two seasons. This is not correct. This also affected the 4th Season, and probably more heavily than others, as large parts of the production wasn't finished until 1998, such as the episode "Porkules" which was shot in January of 98, several months after his health crisis. The episode, featuring Sorbo voicing over for a pig, as opposed to featuring him in a major on screen presence, even serves as an example of how they adjusted film production around. I suggest better wordsmiths than I, adjust the article to reflect that it was the 4th (in particular) and 5th Season that was most heavily affected by Sorbo's health problems.
173.218.98.78 ( talk) 01:22, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
The Health section included "Sorbo experienced an aneurysm in his shoulder which caused four strokes.", but the HuffPo reference says "aneurysm followed by three strokes". cbn.com ref not useful, because now redirects to CBN homepage and wayback doesn't have useful text:
Changed "four strokes" to "three strokes". -- EarthFurst ( talk) 00:37, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
Is there really a need for citation right before the whole part of him saying that jews killed jesus? Seems unnecessary and self-evident.
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Under personal life, it should be included that Sorbo publicly supported the storming of the United States Capitol on January 6, 2021 via Tweeting from his verified account.
https://twitter.com/ksorbs/status/1346898602984144896
https://twitter.com/ksorbs/status/1346913575080759314 2600:6C67:5000:6448:6184:6599:6C01:6292 ( talk) 00:40, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
I agree that this should be brought up in his personal life section. Basically his entire social media presence revolves around his political beliefs, which include the false claim that the 2020 United States Presidential Election was stolen. However, there is zero reference in the article to his political beliefs. Source: Nearly all of his Twitter posts. https://twitter.com/ksorbs Wikipedian24601 ( talk) 02:05, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
Stolen election claims: https://twitter.com/ksorbs/status/1326179983954505729 https://twitter.com/ksorbs/status/1324117412246147073 Wikipedian24601 ( talk) 03:17, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
the whole blood (exc. from lungs) from everyones body parts goes back to the heart and then to the lungs - so any blood clots from an arm or leg have to induce lung embolism - see: /info/en/?search=Pulmonary_embolism
this here: The strokes, thought to be triggered when chiropractic manipulation of his shoulder released blood clots from the aneurysm, left Sorbo with a permanent 10 percent vision loss, weakness, impaired balance, and migraines
medically or mechanically dont make any sense, if an arm (or leg) aneurysm is the prime source for any blood clots inducing strokes in brains, without another underlying condition, disease or drugs present.
just my three groschen! Gpmalek76 ( talk) 21:29, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
Editor opinions aren't relevant to Wikipedia, which is based on reliable sources. -- Jibal ( talk) 03:35, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
Kevin Sorbo is the owner of the wildly successful Zorba’s bar and restaurant chain. 2600:1008:B120:F7D7:F5A1:5097:B769:4421 ( talk) 01:59, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
I made a previous inclusion of this, now removed for some reason? In 2019, this was widely reported after she accused him publicly on Twitter, stating he had done it three times to her while making the movie Single in South Beach, tried to pressure and/or shame her on-set, to submit to him and tried to get movie's director to include a sex scene so he could touch her, see her undressed etc. Why was mention of this removed? It was a notable incident in his public image, obviously an allegation like that is significant even if no legal action results, so why the removal please? BakedEel ( talk) 23:10, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
In 2020, Kevin Sorbo joined Oxford professor, mathematician, and philosopher Dr. John Lennox, to create a unique travelogue-documentary involving a deeper look into the relationship between modern science, world history, and early Christianity. Against The Tide is the story of one man’s daring pushback against the onslaught of contemporary atheism and its drive to relegate belief in God to society’s catalogue of dead ideas. 214.28.226.88 ( talk) 10:04, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
He's not a politician so why is his political party stated? And how do we know? There's no citation and no discussion of party membership or politics in the article. (It's obviously true that he's a Republican from his tweets, but that's not how Wikipedia works). -- Jibal ( talk) 03:41, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
This seems to be a bit of a bizarre situation here... just an image of him at TP (is it supposed to be just an implication? Or, if people don't know what it is, then, unless they click the link, people will successfully not know he's political...?) - and no, ramos1990, it doesn't seem to be an excellent point, as (besides the fact Deniro has in the sidebar, but this thread isn't about sidebars)... usually they do have sections, whether 'activism' or 'politics', so it was a surprise to not find it here, as this isn't some minor thing for Kevin, and just like Deniro has three long paragraphs, so should Kevin... I mean, as it is what exactly is it implying? That he's just some Christian, and somehow that is exclusively why he's not very desired in the industry? Of course not... so, as it is this article is merely distorting the reality of his biography... and no, ramos, it's not merely 'tabloid'... whatever that means in the context of 'celebrities', tabloid being usually what focus they get (so this surely should just be about whether they're reliable or not)... and huffpost is already referenced for one thing, so why not another? If it's 'tabloid' for the antivaxxer tweet, ramos, why is it not a tabloid for the strokes? Also, there is a Republican category... with no explanation? This is why the article seems bizarre... 88.104.26.151 ( talk) 16:57, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for the post on the noticeboard.
I agree with Ramos1990, Emir of Wikipedia, Ponyo, and Blablubbs on the sexual misconduct removal for very poor sourcing and potential WP:SYN on one of them. Much stronger sources are needed and I could not find any online. No issues were ever raised legally or seriously by either women. No recent updates at all on this either. WP:BLPREMOVE applies here.
In terms of the politics stuff, it does not seem like much of the content is relevant to the article. Much of the sources revolve around commenting on Sorbo's tweets - which can be taken out of context and slanted by any source. I agree with Ramos1990 in that not everything that is published on a person belongs on Wikipedia. His views on vaccines are not relevant anymore. The pandemic is gone and since he did get vaccinated to do filming in another country, it makes no sense to use Wikipedia to spread such content per WP:BLPGOSSIP.
In terms of political views, everyone has one and everyone has an opinion on every topic. But that does not mean it belongs on Wikipedia. It can be challenged and removed either way since it is true that political affiliations do change and is a private matter. Even if reliable sources exist, that does not mean it belongs in the biography of a person. From what I looked at, Sorbo is barely mentioned in passing on the source for CPAC and for the other stuff like his opinion on the vaccine stuff, it is all based on his tweets and end up being opinion pieces than true journalism. These are not news. I am sure you can find actors commenting on almost any topic from natural disasters to political candidates especially through twitter, but much of this is not relevant to the biography and requires higher quality journalism than opinion pieces.
We should really strive for better sourcing and better relevance when controversial matters are being considered on a biography page. We do not want Wikipedia to contribute to defamation or misinforming about an individual if we can avoid it. It should contain neutral content too. desmay ( talk) 19:37, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
I suspect the snippet of the page which shows up when you search it has been griefed to say he is gay:
(my bold) "Kevin David Sorbo (born September 24, 1958 [1]) is an openly gay American actor. He had starring roles in two television series: as Hercules in Hercules: The Legendary Journeys, and as Captain Dylan Hunt in Andromeda. Sorbo is also known for acting in the Christian films such as God's Not Dead and Let There Be Light ." BonkeySmoke ( talk) 18:05, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
I am hoping that the politics stuff is adequately sourced and close to a consensus version. The reason that I feel strongly about the inclusion of this material is that according to Google, Google News, and DuckDuckGo, this has become the primary source of Sorbo's current notablity, as is evidenced by many of the sources cited. There should also be a sentence about this in the lead, something along the lines of "In recent years, Sorbo's political statements have caused some controversy." I welcome other suggestions for how this part of the article should be described in the lead.
It seems to me that the Career section would be made stronger by trimming mentions of jobs for which the article provides no context or discussion. All of that information is nicely displayed in the Filmography. I don't mind doing this myself, but I wanted to check in here to see if there is support for this or if someone who has been more involved in the article would like to step up. This might eliminate some of the claims tagged as in need of better sourcing, and it should also eliminate the need for the banner I added objecting to the apparently indiscriminate selection of what information is included. (Another approach would be to impose more structure with subheads.) Right now it's just clunky and will probably put off some readers.
This section also needs to include something along the following lines:
In 2019, Sorbo was accused of sexual harassment during the 2015 filming of Single in South Beach. Haley Webb alleged on Twitter that he attempted to pressure her into sex during the filming and tried to shame her on set for rejecting him, before trying to convince the film's director to add unnecessary sex scenes between their characters. Sorbo did not publicly respond to the allegation, and it did not lead to litigation. [1] [2]
It does not require its own header, but you can't just leave out a #MeTo allegation. This is definitely of potential interest to many readers, and the fact of the allegation is not in dispute. We just must take care to present it neutrally avoid giving it undo prominence with disproportionately extended coverage in the article. (I found nothing, incidentally, that would support including Kandyse McClure.)
The inclusion of this material would remove my only remaining objection to the neutrality of the article currently flagged by the banner at the top.
The one other thing I would note is that there do appear to be good sources on Sorbo's allegation against Versace. I didn't do the research, but this could be added as a short section under "Personal life" at a later date.
Cheers,
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Patrick J. Welsh ( talk) 00:59, 5 October 2023 (UTC)