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Did anybody even try to contact Freas' family for some permissions? — Xiong ( talk) 05:21, 2005 Apr 1 (UTC)
Well, then, you are certainly the point man on this project. You seem to have two objections, both of which I shall address.
That said, I appreciate the personal photos; I am the sort of trivia buff who browses such. But frankly, I skipped most of the personal details in the text. I would like to see the man's work. — Xiong ( talk) 09:13, 2005 Apr 1 (UTC)
Now that the year of mourning (a common Jewish observance) is over, I will approach Laura about setting up a gallery of the most notable of his works. Which ones would y'all consider the most important to include? ➥the Epopt 06:07, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
Kelly Freas was placed into two "scientologist" categories. I was tempted to remove it, not because of any knowledge of the subject but because it was not mentioned in the article, and I don't think categories should introduce new information. However, I've since found page http://www.nndb.com/people/092/000085834/ "His widow states that Freas was not a Scientologist". The information there is interesting, and could belong in the article. Notinasnaid 16:37, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
I changed the attribution of Freas as Alfred E Neuman's creator. The image, as related in the Wikipedia enty for AEN, was "found" in old advertising material, and adopted to the comics in line drawing by Bill Elder. Norman Mingo did the first MAD magazine cover featuring Alfred. Freas' version, used early in the character's association with MAD, was great, though. Kevrob 20:35, 9 October 2006 (UTC) Kevrob
When I met Freas in Richmond he told an anecdote about how we went to view one of the Apollo launches. While walking towards the large rocket and staring up at it, he failed to look at his feet and thus tripped and fell face forward. This is how he got his protruding teeth.
What is this supposed to mean "No other artist in science fiction has consistently matched his record." Whelan has 24/13 nominations/wins and Eggleton has 19/8. Freas has my favorite since I was a pre-teen, but this line doesn't really belong. Delfeye 20:08, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 11:12, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi there, I've just deleted that image from this page. Please feel free to use it and add it again. Just next time can someone add a fair use rationale with reference to its use in this article, or it will be deleted. Cheers GiantSpider ( talk) 17:02, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
P.S. The Awards section might benefit from some organization such as grouping career awards and those for specific works.
The Science Fiction Hall of Fame should be mentioned. Freas was in the class of 2006 with F Herbert, G Lucas, and A McCaffrey, so it is easy to find some coverage. Here is info that I have provided at George Lucas, lightly revised to fit this context.
Those are two references contemporary to the advance announcement. Among many google hits, those two have independent content. They provide inconsistent dates; AWN News seems to be correct.
Here are some references contemporary to the induction which may have supplementary or replacement value here.
-- P64 ( talk) 20:08, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
Frank Kelly Freas, the "Dean of Science Fiction Artists" at Frank Kelly Freas Laura Brodian Freas Art Guests of Honor; but it also has been said of Virgil Finlay. Is there room for two Deans? -- Pawyilee ( talk) 14:35, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
In what sense did he use "Freas" and "Kelly Freas"? Both merely as signatures on paintings and drawings? How do genre insiders use them and how should we? Is it clear the latter should be treated as a pseudonym? (Most flagrantly see addition to the {{ infobox writer}}.) Anyway, should it be considered a compound surname? --a la Frank Cottrell Boyce = Cottrell Boyce, Frank
Points gleaned by this outsider:
-- P64 ( talk) 19:28, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
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Did anybody even try to contact Freas' family for some permissions? — Xiong ( talk) 05:21, 2005 Apr 1 (UTC)
Well, then, you are certainly the point man on this project. You seem to have two objections, both of which I shall address.
That said, I appreciate the personal photos; I am the sort of trivia buff who browses such. But frankly, I skipped most of the personal details in the text. I would like to see the man's work. — Xiong ( talk) 09:13, 2005 Apr 1 (UTC)
Now that the year of mourning (a common Jewish observance) is over, I will approach Laura about setting up a gallery of the most notable of his works. Which ones would y'all consider the most important to include? ➥the Epopt 06:07, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
Kelly Freas was placed into two "scientologist" categories. I was tempted to remove it, not because of any knowledge of the subject but because it was not mentioned in the article, and I don't think categories should introduce new information. However, I've since found page http://www.nndb.com/people/092/000085834/ "His widow states that Freas was not a Scientologist". The information there is interesting, and could belong in the article. Notinasnaid 16:37, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
I changed the attribution of Freas as Alfred E Neuman's creator. The image, as related in the Wikipedia enty for AEN, was "found" in old advertising material, and adopted to the comics in line drawing by Bill Elder. Norman Mingo did the first MAD magazine cover featuring Alfred. Freas' version, used early in the character's association with MAD, was great, though. Kevrob 20:35, 9 October 2006 (UTC) Kevrob
When I met Freas in Richmond he told an anecdote about how we went to view one of the Apollo launches. While walking towards the large rocket and staring up at it, he failed to look at his feet and thus tripped and fell face forward. This is how he got his protruding teeth.
What is this supposed to mean "No other artist in science fiction has consistently matched his record." Whelan has 24/13 nominations/wins and Eggleton has 19/8. Freas has my favorite since I was a pre-teen, but this line doesn't really belong. Delfeye 20:08, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
File:Queen News Of The World.png is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation can be deleted one week after being tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.
BetacommandBot ( talk) 11:12, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi there, I've just deleted that image from this page. Please feel free to use it and add it again. Just next time can someone add a fair use rationale with reference to its use in this article, or it will be deleted. Cheers GiantSpider ( talk) 17:02, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
P.S. The Awards section might benefit from some organization such as grouping career awards and those for specific works.
The Science Fiction Hall of Fame should be mentioned. Freas was in the class of 2006 with F Herbert, G Lucas, and A McCaffrey, so it is easy to find some coverage. Here is info that I have provided at George Lucas, lightly revised to fit this context.
Those are two references contemporary to the advance announcement. Among many google hits, those two have independent content. They provide inconsistent dates; AWN News seems to be correct.
Here are some references contemporary to the induction which may have supplementary or replacement value here.
-- P64 ( talk) 20:08, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
Frank Kelly Freas, the "Dean of Science Fiction Artists" at Frank Kelly Freas Laura Brodian Freas Art Guests of Honor; but it also has been said of Virgil Finlay. Is there room for two Deans? -- Pawyilee ( talk) 14:35, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
In what sense did he use "Freas" and "Kelly Freas"? Both merely as signatures on paintings and drawings? How do genre insiders use them and how should we? Is it clear the latter should be treated as a pseudonym? (Most flagrantly see addition to the {{ infobox writer}}.) Anyway, should it be considered a compound surname? --a la Frank Cottrell Boyce = Cottrell Boyce, Frank
Points gleaned by this outsider:
-- P64 ( talk) 19:28, 9 April 2013 (UTC)