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Some discussion on the "Allied capture" section. I recently removed stuff from other articles. Tried to limit the capture section to just the Kehlsteinhaus topic, not Berchtesgaden, not Berghof (Hitler). Beanbatch 19:52, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
I don't know who really captured the Kehlsteinhaus first. I just tried to clean up this section, copied verbatim from other articles, to focus just on Kehlsteinhaus. If what is left is not correct, it should be fixed. I think we do know who looted it first. That would be the 101st. Several soldiers from the 506th have personal items they looted from there. If someone else was first, they didn't take much with them. Beanbatch 19:57, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
Because Americans never lie, right? There are plenty of testimonies, in French and in Spanish that it was Captain Tuyeras, a french jew from the 2nd French Division who was the first allied soldier up there. And your sources lie, as the Spanish soldiers testimony that they indeed grabbed plenty of Lanson and Pommery bottles. But to know that, you should be able to read in more languages than English. -- 37.14.47.182 ( talk) 18:20, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
Providing link to an account of 3rd Infantry seizure placed by unregistered user 71.227.211.202 (talk) on 06:12, July 8, 2014 (edit) and summarily deleted in the next page edit by unregistered user 50.147.145.83 (talk) on 03:30, September 13, 2014:
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Kehlsteinhaus&diff=625325574&oldid=616048978 Wikiuser100 ( talk) 17:28, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
i read some time ago that the peak of the mountain ( ? Kehlstine Mountain) was called Zuckspit(spelling correct?) and does any one have info on that ?
thanks willy g man 76.230.158.100 ( talk) 17:49, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
This is really a rather pointless pointless question, but in the Band of Brothers mini-series, the elevator was said to have been plated with gold. Was it originally plated in gold, or was it polished brass to begin with? jak722 17:54 06, June 2006
It was always brass. They simply thought it was gold-plated. It is very impressive; really, the coolest thing about visiting the site, except for the fireplace and the view of the mountains. 169.253.4.21 ( talk) 17:44, 12 March 2008 (UTC)TexxasFinn
I can't be sure, but either the originator of this article or one of its editors seems to be a non-native English speaker. A case in point is the word 'Mio' used in '150 Mio Euros'. A quick Google search seems to indicate that this is primarily used in the German language as an abbreviation of 'million', and is therefore not strictly an English word, although it is used in 'European English', rather like Lufthansa stewards who ask people in English to turn off their 'handies', the word for mobile (cellular) phone in German, but not an English word.
Furthermore, the style does grate in places, tending to translationese. Such as the sentence which ends "... Adolf Hitler of the Nazi Party". Oh, Bold textthatBold text Adolf Hitler?! Also, can an elevator really be said to 'span' last 124 metres up to the Kehlsteinhaus? Other examples:
"...he suffered migraines and other balance problems whilst at the higher altitudes of the Kehlsteinhaus." Can a single location have more than one altitude?
Also, both spellings of metre/meter are used in the article. I think either one or the other should be used.
Though I can find no source, experience of visiting the Kehlsteinhaus myself this summer showed that guided tours are still being offered for tourists. - Estel (talk) 22:03, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Tours are officially offered - or at least they were when I visited in both 1991 and 2009. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.195.193.43 ( talk) 12:04, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
Suggest the removal of the assertion that tours are not offered in German due to concerns regarding Nazi sympathizers; it is unsourced and the official website clearly states that tours in German are available. 71.62.24.97 ( talk) 08:38, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
My understanding is that they do offer German language tours. However, to discourage Nazi sympathizers all tours must be booked through the website. It is not allowed to have a tour with an external guide, but that applies to all languages equally, not just to German. So if there are no objections I will delete this statement. Drow69 ( talk) 14:52, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
The common name for this place in English is "Eagle's Nest" as there is more than one as the disambiguation " Eagle's Nest" page show this will need a disambiguation name like Eagle's Nest (Berchtesgaden) or Eagle's Nest, Berchtesgaden or Eagle's Nest, Bavaria or Eagle's Nest (Hitler) or whatever is deemed the most suitable disambiguation extension for the place should be (see WP:AT). -- PBS ( talk) 10:07, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
Needs an Etymology section, like most similar articles, or at least a translation of the German name. Re "Eagle's Nest", it's a rather obvious name but not a translation of the German; would be good to add who coined it, if known. I'm going to piggyback another comment, as my mobile won't recognize the Add Section button. The site is central to the plot of a GA mystery, by Carr iirc. I'll dig it out. Add an 'In popular culture' section; I'm sure there are other significant references -- hopefully not too many! -- D Anthony Patriarche, BSc ( talk) 15:21, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
The "Use" section says: "Kehlsteinhaus lies several miles directly above the Berghof". Really? 78.147.23.2 ( talk) 19:46, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
Sorry for the drive-by comment, but in the lede it says that Hitler only visited the place 14 times.
This interesting fact doesn't appear to be referenced anywhere, nor mentioned later in the article.
-- EdJogg ( talk) 11:33, 5 June 2017 (UTC) (Not watching page. Sorry.)
14 is the highest quantity given in ANY source, other sources say only five or ten times.
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Some discussion on the "Allied capture" section. I recently removed stuff from other articles. Tried to limit the capture section to just the Kehlsteinhaus topic, not Berchtesgaden, not Berghof (Hitler). Beanbatch 19:52, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
I don't know who really captured the Kehlsteinhaus first. I just tried to clean up this section, copied verbatim from other articles, to focus just on Kehlsteinhaus. If what is left is not correct, it should be fixed. I think we do know who looted it first. That would be the 101st. Several soldiers from the 506th have personal items they looted from there. If someone else was first, they didn't take much with them. Beanbatch 19:57, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
Because Americans never lie, right? There are plenty of testimonies, in French and in Spanish that it was Captain Tuyeras, a french jew from the 2nd French Division who was the first allied soldier up there. And your sources lie, as the Spanish soldiers testimony that they indeed grabbed plenty of Lanson and Pommery bottles. But to know that, you should be able to read in more languages than English. -- 37.14.47.182 ( talk) 18:20, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
Providing link to an account of 3rd Infantry seizure placed by unregistered user 71.227.211.202 (talk) on 06:12, July 8, 2014 (edit) and summarily deleted in the next page edit by unregistered user 50.147.145.83 (talk) on 03:30, September 13, 2014:
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Kehlsteinhaus&diff=625325574&oldid=616048978 Wikiuser100 ( talk) 17:28, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
i read some time ago that the peak of the mountain ( ? Kehlstine Mountain) was called Zuckspit(spelling correct?) and does any one have info on that ?
thanks willy g man 76.230.158.100 ( talk) 17:49, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
This is really a rather pointless pointless question, but in the Band of Brothers mini-series, the elevator was said to have been plated with gold. Was it originally plated in gold, or was it polished brass to begin with? jak722 17:54 06, June 2006
It was always brass. They simply thought it was gold-plated. It is very impressive; really, the coolest thing about visiting the site, except for the fireplace and the view of the mountains. 169.253.4.21 ( talk) 17:44, 12 March 2008 (UTC)TexxasFinn
I can't be sure, but either the originator of this article or one of its editors seems to be a non-native English speaker. A case in point is the word 'Mio' used in '150 Mio Euros'. A quick Google search seems to indicate that this is primarily used in the German language as an abbreviation of 'million', and is therefore not strictly an English word, although it is used in 'European English', rather like Lufthansa stewards who ask people in English to turn off their 'handies', the word for mobile (cellular) phone in German, but not an English word.
Furthermore, the style does grate in places, tending to translationese. Such as the sentence which ends "... Adolf Hitler of the Nazi Party". Oh, Bold textthatBold text Adolf Hitler?! Also, can an elevator really be said to 'span' last 124 metres up to the Kehlsteinhaus? Other examples:
"...he suffered migraines and other balance problems whilst at the higher altitudes of the Kehlsteinhaus." Can a single location have more than one altitude?
Also, both spellings of metre/meter are used in the article. I think either one or the other should be used.
Though I can find no source, experience of visiting the Kehlsteinhaus myself this summer showed that guided tours are still being offered for tourists. - Estel (talk) 22:03, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Tours are officially offered - or at least they were when I visited in both 1991 and 2009. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.195.193.43 ( talk) 12:04, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
Suggest the removal of the assertion that tours are not offered in German due to concerns regarding Nazi sympathizers; it is unsourced and the official website clearly states that tours in German are available. 71.62.24.97 ( talk) 08:38, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
My understanding is that they do offer German language tours. However, to discourage Nazi sympathizers all tours must be booked through the website. It is not allowed to have a tour with an external guide, but that applies to all languages equally, not just to German. So if there are no objections I will delete this statement. Drow69 ( talk) 14:52, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
The common name for this place in English is "Eagle's Nest" as there is more than one as the disambiguation " Eagle's Nest" page show this will need a disambiguation name like Eagle's Nest (Berchtesgaden) or Eagle's Nest, Berchtesgaden or Eagle's Nest, Bavaria or Eagle's Nest (Hitler) or whatever is deemed the most suitable disambiguation extension for the place should be (see WP:AT). -- PBS ( talk) 10:07, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
Needs an Etymology section, like most similar articles, or at least a translation of the German name. Re "Eagle's Nest", it's a rather obvious name but not a translation of the German; would be good to add who coined it, if known. I'm going to piggyback another comment, as my mobile won't recognize the Add Section button. The site is central to the plot of a GA mystery, by Carr iirc. I'll dig it out. Add an 'In popular culture' section; I'm sure there are other significant references -- hopefully not too many! -- D Anthony Patriarche, BSc ( talk) 15:21, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
The "Use" section says: "Kehlsteinhaus lies several miles directly above the Berghof". Really? 78.147.23.2 ( talk) 19:46, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
Sorry for the drive-by comment, but in the lede it says that Hitler only visited the place 14 times.
This interesting fact doesn't appear to be referenced anywhere, nor mentioned later in the article.
-- EdJogg ( talk) 11:33, 5 June 2017 (UTC) (Not watching page. Sorry.)
14 is the highest quantity given in ANY source, other sources say only five or ten times.
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