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Dans son ouvrage « L'Univers surréaliste », éditions Somogy, Paris 1983, l'auteur José Pierre mentionne « 1961 »
Au début de l'article, il est indiqué « 26 JUIN 1963 »
et au 7e paragraphe « 8 JANVIER 1963 ».
Quelle date est conforme ?
Je vous prie d'excuser ma discussion en français, mais mon anglais est trop alléatoire.
Arcane17
In Double Solitaire: The Surreal Worlds of Kay Sage and Yves Tanguy, Stephen Robeson Miller gives the date as January 8, 1963. Pernoctus ( talk) 10:58, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
In the current state of the article, it appears to argue with itself... AnonMoos ( talk) 07:13, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
The image Image:Multiplication of the Arcs.jpg is used in this article under a claim of fair use, but it does not have an adequate explanation for why it meets the requirements for such images when used here. In particular, for each page the image is used on, it must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Please check
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The purely negative relationship between Sage and the Surrealists posited here is inaccurate. I have edited the article to reflect more accurately Sage's relationship with Andre' Breton and the Surrealists, which, while tense at times, was not uniformly hostile, nor did it involve "rejection", as the person who first wrote or edited this section erroneously states. See, for example, "It is this conception of painting [derived from Baudelaire's Modernist conceptions] which, in the latest period, renders more and more necessary, and dazzling with truth and life, the productions of [...] Kay Sage [...]" (Andre Breton, Interview with Charles Henri Ford in View magazine, (no. 7-8, October-November 1941); reprinted in Franklin Rosemont, ed., What Is Surrealism? Selected Writings of Andre Breton (NY: Monad, 1978, p. 204). See also, "Automatism has likewise prevailed over the unveiled and tender vision of Kay Sage [...]", (Andre Breton, "Genesis and Perspective of Surrealism in the Plastic Arts", reprinted in Rosemont, op. cit., p. 229). Sage also participated in the Surrealist exhibition at the Galerie Maeght, Paris, Le Surrealisme en 1947, July 7–August 30, 1947, organized by Andre Breton and Marcel Duchamp. Pernoctus ( talk) 20:15, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
These images are needed and are both educational and encyclopedic... Modernist ( talk) 12:24, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
Looking through the provided rationales for the images currently in use, the rationales are inadequate particularly with respect to criterion 8 of the non-free content policy. I am sympathetic to the desire to provide multiple examples of an artist's work, especially where this illustrates a changing approach over the course of a career. However, absent clear explanatory text in either the body of the article or the image captions, the use of bare images is of dubious usefulness and certainly falls foul of the restrictions of the use of non-free content and is functionally equivalent to an image gallery. From the perspective of many non-expert content re-users (of which I have been one), use of too many non-free images without adequate rationales renders an article essentially unusable. If all the images are to be retained in the article, the image rationales need significant attention from a subject expert. Further, the article itself would ideally be improved with a mind to the fact that many content re-users would have to strip out the images prior to re-use. CIreland ( talk) 14:02, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
wow. i'm not going into the other discussions about images in this article. this is a quibble--for the image "Margin of Silence," the caption uses the word "illudes." i really question whether this is the appropriate, or best, word choice? perhaps "alludes" is a better fit? but i don't want to just change it since there has been previous discussions here about the use of images and accompanying text. Colbey84 ( talk) 22:23, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
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Dans son ouvrage « L'Univers surréaliste », éditions Somogy, Paris 1983, l'auteur José Pierre mentionne « 1961 »
Au début de l'article, il est indiqué « 26 JUIN 1963 »
et au 7e paragraphe « 8 JANVIER 1963 ».
Quelle date est conforme ?
Je vous prie d'excuser ma discussion en français, mais mon anglais est trop alléatoire.
Arcane17
In Double Solitaire: The Surreal Worlds of Kay Sage and Yves Tanguy, Stephen Robeson Miller gives the date as January 8, 1963. Pernoctus ( talk) 10:58, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
In the current state of the article, it appears to argue with itself... AnonMoos ( talk) 07:13, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
The image Image:Multiplication of the Arcs.jpg is used in this article under a claim of fair use, but it does not have an adequate explanation for why it meets the requirements for such images when used here. In particular, for each page the image is used on, it must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Please check
This is an automated notice by FairuseBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. -- 00:29, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
The purely negative relationship between Sage and the Surrealists posited here is inaccurate. I have edited the article to reflect more accurately Sage's relationship with Andre' Breton and the Surrealists, which, while tense at times, was not uniformly hostile, nor did it involve "rejection", as the person who first wrote or edited this section erroneously states. See, for example, "It is this conception of painting [derived from Baudelaire's Modernist conceptions] which, in the latest period, renders more and more necessary, and dazzling with truth and life, the productions of [...] Kay Sage [...]" (Andre Breton, Interview with Charles Henri Ford in View magazine, (no. 7-8, October-November 1941); reprinted in Franklin Rosemont, ed., What Is Surrealism? Selected Writings of Andre Breton (NY: Monad, 1978, p. 204). See also, "Automatism has likewise prevailed over the unveiled and tender vision of Kay Sage [...]", (Andre Breton, "Genesis and Perspective of Surrealism in the Plastic Arts", reprinted in Rosemont, op. cit., p. 229). Sage also participated in the Surrealist exhibition at the Galerie Maeght, Paris, Le Surrealisme en 1947, July 7–August 30, 1947, organized by Andre Breton and Marcel Duchamp. Pernoctus ( talk) 20:15, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
These images are needed and are both educational and encyclopedic... Modernist ( talk) 12:24, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
Looking through the provided rationales for the images currently in use, the rationales are inadequate particularly with respect to criterion 8 of the non-free content policy. I am sympathetic to the desire to provide multiple examples of an artist's work, especially where this illustrates a changing approach over the course of a career. However, absent clear explanatory text in either the body of the article or the image captions, the use of bare images is of dubious usefulness and certainly falls foul of the restrictions of the use of non-free content and is functionally equivalent to an image gallery. From the perspective of many non-expert content re-users (of which I have been one), use of too many non-free images without adequate rationales renders an article essentially unusable. If all the images are to be retained in the article, the image rationales need significant attention from a subject expert. Further, the article itself would ideally be improved with a mind to the fact that many content re-users would have to strip out the images prior to re-use. CIreland ( talk) 14:02, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
wow. i'm not going into the other discussions about images in this article. this is a quibble--for the image "Margin of Silence," the caption uses the word "illudes." i really question whether this is the appropriate, or best, word choice? perhaps "alludes" is a better fit? but i don't want to just change it since there has been previous discussions here about the use of images and accompanying text. Colbey84 ( talk) 22:23, 31 August 2017 (UTC)