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To-do list for Kate Sheppard: As per a discussion on the New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board the aim is to have this article featured as Today's Featured Article on either the 19 September 2018 or 28 November 2018 to commemorate the 125th anniversary of women's suffrage in New Zealand. In order to achieve this I propose the following timeline:
Any further suggestions are welcome. Please add any outstanding tasks (no matter how minor) below. -- Shudde talk 17:15, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
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This article has always had a birth year of 1847, until an anon changed it today to 1848. There seem to be plenty of sources on the web for either date, but the later date seems more authoritative, being in, for example, the 1966 New Zealand encyclopaedia [1]. Have the other sources been influenced by Wikipedia, or is there some genuine doubt about her birth year?- gadfium 23:07, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
An anon added the following section:
I think this material belongs more in Women's suffrage in New Zealand than it does here, but without a reference it is not acceptable in either article. It also needs wikification and a copyedit.- gadfium 00:39, 7 March 2007 (UTC) ☺
Kate Sheppard, née Catherine Wilson Malcolm (born March 10?, 1847, Liverpool, Eng.—died July 13, 1934, Christchurch, N.Z.), English-born activist, who was a leader in the woman suffrage movement in New Zealand. She was instrumental in making New Zealand the first country in the world to grant women the right to vote (1893).
Raised and educated in Scotland, she moved to New Zealand in the late 1860s, and in 1871 she married Walter Allen Sheppard, a storekeeper. An early feminist, she believed that women should participate fully in all aspects of society, including politics. Among the causes she first adopted was dress reform for women, primarily the abolishment of corsets and other constrictive clothing. In an era when women were encouraged to be “ladylike,” she also promoted bicycling and other physical activity for women. In 1885 Sheppard joined the Women’s Christian Temperance Union (WCTU) and two years later became leader of the WCTU’s suffrage campaign. A tireless advocate, she wrote pamphlets, organized meetings and lectures, and presented a series of petitions to Parliament. Several suffrage bills failed before Parliament finally granted women the right to vote in 1893. Sheppard was later active in woman suffrage movements in other countries, including England and the United States.
In 1896 Sheppard helped establish the National Council of Women (NCW) and became its first president. Among the issues she supported were greater equality in marriage and the right of women to run for Parliament. Although poor health forced her to step down as president of the NCW in 1903, she remained a prominent figure in the women’s rights movement. Her image appears on the New Zealand $10 banknote.
CITATION! <"Kate Sheppard." Encyclopædia Britannica. Encyclopædia Britannica Online. Encyclopædia Britannica, 2011. Web. 16 Mar. 2011. < http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/1090714/Kate-Sheppard>.>
Cancelschool2011 ( talk) 21:23, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
I have removed this from the article, not because I think it never existed, but mainly because it seems to have disappeared and may be a little obscure, and especially since I've found no evidence it's an on-going thing. If more information can be found would be happy for something brief about it to be re-included in the article. Here is the text (the reference was dead, so I removed it):
"In 2016, a memorial lecture in her name was initiated – the Kate Sheppard Women of Influence Lecture. The inaugural lecture was held at Massey University's Wellington campus and the speaker was Stacey Shortall. It is planned to be an annual event, sponsored by Westpac bank."
Cheers. -- Shudde talk 15:00, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
After I started working on the article a couple of months ago I noticed that the citation style used a mixture of formats. I have altered it to the style we have now in order to make it consistent. I prefer this style myself, but if anyone has a problem with it please ping me about it here. -- Shudde talk 17:05, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
@ Gadfium and Susan Tol: As per the discussion on the New Zealand Wikipedians' Noticeboard some time ago, I've started working on this article. I'm quite optimistic that Featured Status is achievable in time, but I will need help. I do not have many sources, but I am going to try and get a copy of Judith Devaliant's book, as it looks like the only biography of Sheppard. I've started expanding the article, copy-editing a little, and formatting things consistently, but would of course appreciate any help. I've also added some templates at the top of this page that I think can be very useful. Do you think it may be worth placing another note of the NZ noticeboard regarding this? Cheers. -- Shudde talk 17:32, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
@ Susan Tol and Gadfium: This statement needs sourcing, any ideas? Sheppard was impressed not only with the subject matter but the strength of public speaking displayed by a woman, something not witnessed often in New Zealand. -- Shudde talk 20:58, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
@ Gadfium and Susan Tol: Great thanks! Another question regarding the following paragraph:
When exactly did she do all this? 1885? 1886? Does "Her initial involvement" refer to her involvement in the WCTU, in founding the WCTU, or in the temperance movement? -- Shudde talk 18:05, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
Hi team, I've received an interview request, and the Radio NZ journalist specifically mentions the Kate Sheppard GA initiative. Is there anybody else interested in getting interviewed? If so, please add to the item on my talk page, or approach the journalist directly. Schwede 66 05:24, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
Another interview request; this time from The New Zealand Herald. Anybody keen to speak to Moana Tapaleao? I can forward her phone number but her email address is publicly displayed on the Herald website: moana.tapaleao(at)nzherald.co.nz Schwede 66 23:08, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
Hi. If we take this article to FAC then we have to be extra careful about close paraphrasing. I'm probably overparanoid about this, but is the statement Female rate payers were able to vote in local body elections in 1873 and in 1877 women "householders" were given the right to vote in and stand for education boards. in our article too similar to the source [2] In 1873 women rate-payers were given the right to vote in local body elections and in 1877 women "householders" (that is, all adult women) were given the right to vote in and stand for school committees and education boards. ?? -- Shudde talk 20:01, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
Hi. I think it's nearly ready for a peer review. I'll give it another read through and a bit more of a copy-edit and then put it up for peer review. @ Gadfium and Susan Tol: Are you both happy with this? Do you feel we are done with significant changes? -- Shudde talk 20:18, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
@ Gadfium and Susan Tol: Okay I've put it up for peer review, and left a request at the NZ noticeboard and on the Women in Red project talkpage asking for feedback. If we have no luck in the next few days I'll try to find some experienced FA-writers to approach. If you know any editors that could give valuable feedback on the article do message them. You can keep an eye on the peer review at Wikipedia:Peer review/Kate Sheppard/archive1. It may be a good idea to add the page to your watchlist so that if there are any questions we are able to answer them. Cheers. -- Shudde talk 18:40, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
http://www.chchsouth.ac.nz/NewsCentre/122/
Sorry, couldn't figure out how to add this to the template of the "Notes" section. MurielMary ( talk) 07:50, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
The citation I added to the lead states 1992, but in the "Commemoration" section it states 1991. MurielMary ( talk) 07:52, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
The article only names schools in Cantebury, but there are others around the country. Should the article list more, or would it become too long and overly detailed? For example, Oteha Valley School: http://www.oteha.school.nz/about-us/houses/
I found the article "Archival Activism: the Editors fighting Wikipedia’s Sexism Problem" this morning via Twitter. [1]
I made a few minor changes. Feel free to revert if they are not the default. Oceanflynn ( talk) 16:58, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
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I've been distracted for the last few months, but am now ready to make this article my priority for the next six weeks. I will be unavailable for a couple of weeks sometime in August, so this would seem to be the best time as far as I am concerned to put this forward as a FA candidate.
I had not anticipated that the coming anniversary of women's suffrage would make it difficult to get the source material from public libraries in New Zealand, but the main sources now have waiting lists. Fortunately I have bought my own copy of Devaliant's work. I'm in the library queue for a copy of Grimshaw's book, and I am prepared to go into the library to use a desk copy as necessary until it arrives.
Any comments before I start the FAC process?- gadfium 21:31, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
For the Kathy Lynch article, I once created a map of places where she has lived (is living). Should we perhaps create a map of relevant places for Sheppard in Christchurch? This could include:
Regarding the Odeon Theatre, it's notable as the place where most of the 1893 campaign meetings were held. It's not mentioned in the article. Schwede 66 21:11, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
Right, I've put a mock up together. This is on a map base with rather poor resolution. Some thoughts:
My own thoughts are:
Let me know what you think. Schwede 66 05:54, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi all, I've made an interactive map in my user sandbox using {{ OSM Location map}} if you'd like to take a look. I've included some explanatory comments; feel free to take the code and modify it. Please {{ ping}} me if you have any questions. — Hugh ( talk) 03:24, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
This article references both print and web versions of Tessa Malcom's entry for Sheppard in the 1993 edition of the DNZB. These should be merged. I'd be happy to do this if it's agreed upon. — Hugh ( talk) 01:12, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
If you plan to merge Malcolm 2013 into Malcolm 1993, that should be fine, assuming that the 11 statements supported by Malcolm 2013 are indeed supported by Malcolm 1993, and are not supported only by 2013 updates. If you were thinking of merging Malcolm 1993 into Malcolm 2013, that would be a bit problematic. Footnote 'a' is what clarifies the 1847 birth year confusion, which seems to have been started by Malcolm 1993. By the way, I suspect that Tessa Malcolm drafted and submitted the DNZB article in 1992, before she had a chance to read Devaliant 1992. I suspect that had she already read Devaliant, she would have written "on 10 March 1848", rather than "probably on 10 March 1847". Unfortunately, whoever did the 2013 update did not correct the birth year, even though they added Devaliant "1993" [sic] as an additional source. Anyway, the reference for footnote 'a' really needs to be Malcolm 1993, not Malcolm 2013, because it was from the 1993 article onwards that other works started putting out the erroneous 1847 birth year. Nurg ( talk) 10:50, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
Spotted this banner the other day; it's displayed at the Trinity Church in central Christchurch. Schwede 66 05:01, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
When this article was promoted to featured article status in 2018 ( this is the version that was promoted)], it uses the word 'suffragette' several times to describe Sheppard and other people she worked with - indeed, the first sentence of the lead describes her as "the country's most famous suffragette", and linking to suffragette. All of these uses of the word have been removed since then, most recently by Caligulady. I see that Schwede66 has reviewed and accepted the change, so I'm not going to revert again - I just want to make sure that the text currently in the article accurately reflects the sources we are using - I'd be surprised if nobody noticed that 'suffragette' wasn't supported by the sources during the FA review, but I guess it could have slipped through. Some of the sources are offline, so I can't review this for myself; also pinging Gadfium, who did a lot of work on it and nominated it for FA, so presumably has access. Best Girth Summit (blether) 10:31, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
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This article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article on September 19, 2018. | |||||||||||||
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content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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This article has been
mentioned by a media organization:
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To-do list for Kate Sheppard: As per a discussion on the New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board the aim is to have this article featured as Today's Featured Article on either the 19 September 2018 or 28 November 2018 to commemorate the 125th anniversary of women's suffrage in New Zealand. In order to achieve this I propose the following timeline:
Any further suggestions are welcome. Please add any outstanding tasks (no matter how minor) below. -- Shudde talk 17:15, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
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The following references may be useful when improving this article in the future:
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Daily pageviews of this article
A graph should have been displayed here but
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This article has always had a birth year of 1847, until an anon changed it today to 1848. There seem to be plenty of sources on the web for either date, but the later date seems more authoritative, being in, for example, the 1966 New Zealand encyclopaedia [1]. Have the other sources been influenced by Wikipedia, or is there some genuine doubt about her birth year?- gadfium 23:07, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
An anon added the following section:
I think this material belongs more in Women's suffrage in New Zealand than it does here, but without a reference it is not acceptable in either article. It also needs wikification and a copyedit.- gadfium 00:39, 7 March 2007 (UTC) ☺
Kate Sheppard, née Catherine Wilson Malcolm (born March 10?, 1847, Liverpool, Eng.—died July 13, 1934, Christchurch, N.Z.), English-born activist, who was a leader in the woman suffrage movement in New Zealand. She was instrumental in making New Zealand the first country in the world to grant women the right to vote (1893).
Raised and educated in Scotland, she moved to New Zealand in the late 1860s, and in 1871 she married Walter Allen Sheppard, a storekeeper. An early feminist, she believed that women should participate fully in all aspects of society, including politics. Among the causes she first adopted was dress reform for women, primarily the abolishment of corsets and other constrictive clothing. In an era when women were encouraged to be “ladylike,” she also promoted bicycling and other physical activity for women. In 1885 Sheppard joined the Women’s Christian Temperance Union (WCTU) and two years later became leader of the WCTU’s suffrage campaign. A tireless advocate, she wrote pamphlets, organized meetings and lectures, and presented a series of petitions to Parliament. Several suffrage bills failed before Parliament finally granted women the right to vote in 1893. Sheppard was later active in woman suffrage movements in other countries, including England and the United States.
In 1896 Sheppard helped establish the National Council of Women (NCW) and became its first president. Among the issues she supported were greater equality in marriage and the right of women to run for Parliament. Although poor health forced her to step down as president of the NCW in 1903, she remained a prominent figure in the women’s rights movement. Her image appears on the New Zealand $10 banknote.
CITATION! <"Kate Sheppard." Encyclopædia Britannica. Encyclopædia Britannica Online. Encyclopædia Britannica, 2011. Web. 16 Mar. 2011. < http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/1090714/Kate-Sheppard>.>
Cancelschool2011 ( talk) 21:23, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
I have removed this from the article, not because I think it never existed, but mainly because it seems to have disappeared and may be a little obscure, and especially since I've found no evidence it's an on-going thing. If more information can be found would be happy for something brief about it to be re-included in the article. Here is the text (the reference was dead, so I removed it):
"In 2016, a memorial lecture in her name was initiated – the Kate Sheppard Women of Influence Lecture. The inaugural lecture was held at Massey University's Wellington campus and the speaker was Stacey Shortall. It is planned to be an annual event, sponsored by Westpac bank."
Cheers. -- Shudde talk 15:00, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
After I started working on the article a couple of months ago I noticed that the citation style used a mixture of formats. I have altered it to the style we have now in order to make it consistent. I prefer this style myself, but if anyone has a problem with it please ping me about it here. -- Shudde talk 17:05, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
@ Gadfium and Susan Tol: As per the discussion on the New Zealand Wikipedians' Noticeboard some time ago, I've started working on this article. I'm quite optimistic that Featured Status is achievable in time, but I will need help. I do not have many sources, but I am going to try and get a copy of Judith Devaliant's book, as it looks like the only biography of Sheppard. I've started expanding the article, copy-editing a little, and formatting things consistently, but would of course appreciate any help. I've also added some templates at the top of this page that I think can be very useful. Do you think it may be worth placing another note of the NZ noticeboard regarding this? Cheers. -- Shudde talk 17:32, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
@ Susan Tol and Gadfium: This statement needs sourcing, any ideas? Sheppard was impressed not only with the subject matter but the strength of public speaking displayed by a woman, something not witnessed often in New Zealand. -- Shudde talk 20:58, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
@ Gadfium and Susan Tol: Great thanks! Another question regarding the following paragraph:
When exactly did she do all this? 1885? 1886? Does "Her initial involvement" refer to her involvement in the WCTU, in founding the WCTU, or in the temperance movement? -- Shudde talk 18:05, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
Hi team, I've received an interview request, and the Radio NZ journalist specifically mentions the Kate Sheppard GA initiative. Is there anybody else interested in getting interviewed? If so, please add to the item on my talk page, or approach the journalist directly. Schwede 66 05:24, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
Another interview request; this time from The New Zealand Herald. Anybody keen to speak to Moana Tapaleao? I can forward her phone number but her email address is publicly displayed on the Herald website: moana.tapaleao(at)nzherald.co.nz Schwede 66 23:08, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
Hi. If we take this article to FAC then we have to be extra careful about close paraphrasing. I'm probably overparanoid about this, but is the statement Female rate payers were able to vote in local body elections in 1873 and in 1877 women "householders" were given the right to vote in and stand for education boards. in our article too similar to the source [2] In 1873 women rate-payers were given the right to vote in local body elections and in 1877 women "householders" (that is, all adult women) were given the right to vote in and stand for school committees and education boards. ?? -- Shudde talk 20:01, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
Hi. I think it's nearly ready for a peer review. I'll give it another read through and a bit more of a copy-edit and then put it up for peer review. @ Gadfium and Susan Tol: Are you both happy with this? Do you feel we are done with significant changes? -- Shudde talk 20:18, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
@ Gadfium and Susan Tol: Okay I've put it up for peer review, and left a request at the NZ noticeboard and on the Women in Red project talkpage asking for feedback. If we have no luck in the next few days I'll try to find some experienced FA-writers to approach. If you know any editors that could give valuable feedback on the article do message them. You can keep an eye on the peer review at Wikipedia:Peer review/Kate Sheppard/archive1. It may be a good idea to add the page to your watchlist so that if there are any questions we are able to answer them. Cheers. -- Shudde talk 18:40, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
http://www.chchsouth.ac.nz/NewsCentre/122/
Sorry, couldn't figure out how to add this to the template of the "Notes" section. MurielMary ( talk) 07:50, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
The citation I added to the lead states 1992, but in the "Commemoration" section it states 1991. MurielMary ( talk) 07:52, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
The article only names schools in Cantebury, but there are others around the country. Should the article list more, or would it become too long and overly detailed? For example, Oteha Valley School: http://www.oteha.school.nz/about-us/houses/
I found the article "Archival Activism: the Editors fighting Wikipedia’s Sexism Problem" this morning via Twitter. [1]
I made a few minor changes. Feel free to revert if they are not the default. Oceanflynn ( talk) 16:58, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
References
I've been distracted for the last few months, but am now ready to make this article my priority for the next six weeks. I will be unavailable for a couple of weeks sometime in August, so this would seem to be the best time as far as I am concerned to put this forward as a FA candidate.
I had not anticipated that the coming anniversary of women's suffrage would make it difficult to get the source material from public libraries in New Zealand, but the main sources now have waiting lists. Fortunately I have bought my own copy of Devaliant's work. I'm in the library queue for a copy of Grimshaw's book, and I am prepared to go into the library to use a desk copy as necessary until it arrives.
Any comments before I start the FAC process?- gadfium 21:31, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
For the Kathy Lynch article, I once created a map of places where she has lived (is living). Should we perhaps create a map of relevant places for Sheppard in Christchurch? This could include:
Regarding the Odeon Theatre, it's notable as the place where most of the 1893 campaign meetings were held. It's not mentioned in the article. Schwede 66 21:11, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
Right, I've put a mock up together. This is on a map base with rather poor resolution. Some thoughts:
My own thoughts are:
Let me know what you think. Schwede 66 05:54, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi all, I've made an interactive map in my user sandbox using {{ OSM Location map}} if you'd like to take a look. I've included some explanatory comments; feel free to take the code and modify it. Please {{ ping}} me if you have any questions. — Hugh ( talk) 03:24, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
This article references both print and web versions of Tessa Malcom's entry for Sheppard in the 1993 edition of the DNZB. These should be merged. I'd be happy to do this if it's agreed upon. — Hugh ( talk) 01:12, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
If you plan to merge Malcolm 2013 into Malcolm 1993, that should be fine, assuming that the 11 statements supported by Malcolm 2013 are indeed supported by Malcolm 1993, and are not supported only by 2013 updates. If you were thinking of merging Malcolm 1993 into Malcolm 2013, that would be a bit problematic. Footnote 'a' is what clarifies the 1847 birth year confusion, which seems to have been started by Malcolm 1993. By the way, I suspect that Tessa Malcolm drafted and submitted the DNZB article in 1992, before she had a chance to read Devaliant 1992. I suspect that had she already read Devaliant, she would have written "on 10 March 1848", rather than "probably on 10 March 1847". Unfortunately, whoever did the 2013 update did not correct the birth year, even though they added Devaliant "1993" [sic] as an additional source. Anyway, the reference for footnote 'a' really needs to be Malcolm 1993, not Malcolm 2013, because it was from the 1993 article onwards that other works started putting out the erroneous 1847 birth year. Nurg ( talk) 10:50, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
Spotted this banner the other day; it's displayed at the Trinity Church in central Christchurch. Schwede 66 05:01, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
When this article was promoted to featured article status in 2018 ( this is the version that was promoted)], it uses the word 'suffragette' several times to describe Sheppard and other people she worked with - indeed, the first sentence of the lead describes her as "the country's most famous suffragette", and linking to suffragette. All of these uses of the word have been removed since then, most recently by Caligulady. I see that Schwede66 has reviewed and accepted the change, so I'm not going to revert again - I just want to make sure that the text currently in the article accurately reflects the sources we are using - I'd be surprised if nobody noticed that 'suffragette' wasn't supported by the sources during the FA review, but I guess it could have slipped through. Some of the sources are offline, so I can't review this for myself; also pinging Gadfium, who did a lot of work on it and nominated it for FA, so presumably has access. Best Girth Summit (blether) 10:31, 19 April 2022 (UTC)