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Please cease and desist from removing the Notability template from Kate Novak, an article which does not have any reliable secondary sources. There is no reasonable justification for removing the template which was put there to address this problem. The reason why I ask you to do this in the strongest possible terms is that you appear to be POV pushing, as the explanations for removing the template are not supported by the notability guideline WP:BIO and WP:RS which applies to this topic. Unless you adding reliable secondary sources to the article, I would be grateful if you would restore the template immediately. -- Gavin Collins ( talk) 09:44, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I've added an additional two sources: pen-paper.net, an RPG database, and MobyGames, a respected computer games database. I've also done a bit of cleanup on the article. Note that having written six books with ISBNs and cataloging in the Library of Congress should constitute notability. Snuppy 23:17, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
I've just looked this all over and agree that there is still a serious notability issue. The lightweight source are problematic and [1] and [2] are practically the same text. The first identifies itself as twenty years old. None of the sources on offer amount to reliable sources. Cheers, Jack Merridew 11:04, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Part of the problem is that, as you note, the first text identifies itself as twenty years old. Much of this author's work was created well before the widespread usage of the WWW, and thus much of her work was referenced in magazines that have not been digitized. Do you have any suggestions on how to note this and add it to the article? Snuppy 13:31, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
If you are trying to track down the recent history of Kate Novak, you may want to read The Blog Goes Ever On and On from Jeff Grubb's blog. In the blog, Jeff Grubb comments that in 2005, his wife had a short story published and that was the first thing she had had published in a long time.
Jeff Grubb's New Jersie post reveals that Kate Novak's mother is actress Nardi Novak. Hopefully at least one of these two facts can be used to improve this article. Big Mac ( talk) 19:05, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
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Please cease and desist from removing the Notability template from Kate Novak, an article which does not have any reliable secondary sources. There is no reasonable justification for removing the template which was put there to address this problem. The reason why I ask you to do this in the strongest possible terms is that you appear to be POV pushing, as the explanations for removing the template are not supported by the notability guideline WP:BIO and WP:RS which applies to this topic. Unless you adding reliable secondary sources to the article, I would be grateful if you would restore the template immediately. -- Gavin Collins ( talk) 09:44, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I've added an additional two sources: pen-paper.net, an RPG database, and MobyGames, a respected computer games database. I've also done a bit of cleanup on the article. Note that having written six books with ISBNs and cataloging in the Library of Congress should constitute notability. Snuppy 23:17, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
I've just looked this all over and agree that there is still a serious notability issue. The lightweight source are problematic and [1] and [2] are practically the same text. The first identifies itself as twenty years old. None of the sources on offer amount to reliable sources. Cheers, Jack Merridew 11:04, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Part of the problem is that, as you note, the first text identifies itself as twenty years old. Much of this author's work was created well before the widespread usage of the WWW, and thus much of her work was referenced in magazines that have not been digitized. Do you have any suggestions on how to note this and add it to the article? Snuppy 13:31, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
If you are trying to track down the recent history of Kate Novak, you may want to read The Blog Goes Ever On and On from Jeff Grubb's blog. In the blog, Jeff Grubb comments that in 2005, his wife had a short story published and that was the first thing she had had published in a long time.
Jeff Grubb's New Jersie post reveals that Kate Novak's mother is actress Nardi Novak. Hopefully at least one of these two facts can be used to improve this article. Big Mac ( talk) 19:05, 26 July 2008 (UTC)