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To call Karl van Beethoven "Kaspar" is just ludicrous. His name was Karl and that's how he called himself and his whole life he signed his name "Carl van Beethoven"!-- 62.47.128.102 ( talk) 09:59, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
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To call Karl van Beethoven "Kaspar" is just ludicrous. His name was Karl and that's how he called himself and his whole life he signed his name "Carl van Beethoven"!-- 62.47.128.102 ( talk) 09:59, 4 February 2011 (UTC)