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On 30 October 2023, it was proposed that this article be
moved to
Sign Man. The result of
the discussion was not moved.
Requested move 30 October 2023
The following is a closed discussion of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
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Karl Ehrhardt →
Sign Man – This should be moved per
WP:COMMONNAME. Karl Ehrhardt was and is known as "Sign Man" in sports circles, the only realm in which he was WP:Notable. Googling "'sign man' mets" returns 16,500 results. Googling "'Karl Ehrhardt' mets" returns 1,200 results. It seems mostly like obituaries which use his birth name.
Dennis C. Abrams (
talk)
19:06, 30 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Oppose. He's billed as Karl Ehrhardt on his To Tell the Truth episode, his NYT obit calls him Karl Ehrhardt in the headline, and every source currently in the article uses Karl Ehrhardt. No evidence the nickname ever supplanted his real name. Compare to someone like
Freddy Schuman whose NYT obit did actually call him Freddy Sez.
Nohomersryan (
talk)
01:32, 3 November 2023 (UTC)reply
But they would never write "Sign Man, an iconic fixture of Shea Stadium, died February 5 at the age of 83...", and the third paragraph describes him as the "Sign Man of Shea". If most reliable sources don't identify him solely as "Sign Man", and he described himself as "Karl Ehrhardt" as opposed to "Sign Man", it is not exactly what I'd say is used by a "significant majority of independent, reliable English-language sources".
Nohomersryan (
talk)
23:44, 3 November 2023 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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On 30 October 2023, it was proposed that this article be
moved to
Sign Man. The result of
the discussion was not moved.
Requested move 30 October 2023
The following is a closed discussion of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Karl Ehrhardt →
Sign Man – This should be moved per
WP:COMMONNAME. Karl Ehrhardt was and is known as "Sign Man" in sports circles, the only realm in which he was WP:Notable. Googling "'sign man' mets" returns 16,500 results. Googling "'Karl Ehrhardt' mets" returns 1,200 results. It seems mostly like obituaries which use his birth name.
Dennis C. Abrams (
talk)
19:06, 30 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Oppose. He's billed as Karl Ehrhardt on his To Tell the Truth episode, his NYT obit calls him Karl Ehrhardt in the headline, and every source currently in the article uses Karl Ehrhardt. No evidence the nickname ever supplanted his real name. Compare to someone like
Freddy Schuman whose NYT obit did actually call him Freddy Sez.
Nohomersryan (
talk)
01:32, 3 November 2023 (UTC)reply
But they would never write "Sign Man, an iconic fixture of Shea Stadium, died February 5 at the age of 83...", and the third paragraph describes him as the "Sign Man of Shea". If most reliable sources don't identify him solely as "Sign Man", and he described himself as "Karl Ehrhardt" as opposed to "Sign Man", it is not exactly what I'd say is used by a "significant majority of independent, reliable English-language sources".
Nohomersryan (
talk)
23:44, 3 November 2023 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.