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I recommend this be page be locked for edits while the rumors and tabloid gossip fly over the latest nude tape incident. Also, I don't feel gossip from sites like Gawker needs to be included unless it's from a verified source and not just tabloid rumor. -- User:scottjduffy —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scottjduffy ( talk • contribs) 13:40, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
I really don't think a site like this qualifies as a reliable source, but this is the only source I could find that says she was removed from the TV show. I don't work much on celebrity articles -- my instinct is to include it with the barest fact (that she left the show), and leave it at that. - Pete ( talk) 03:17, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
I just watched the first episode and she was most definitely booted for being abusive and punching a camera man. In a later episode, Bob the counselor asks the group if she can come back and every member of the house rejects that idea, except Tom Sizemore. If I knew how to cite something I've watched, I would... 174.31.26.71 ( talk)
She was featured on E! "Beauty Queens Gone Wrong" as number 13 in the 2 hour count down of Pageant Scandals.
Since relinquishing her title, Peniche appeared on one of the highest rated episodes of The Howard Stern Show and The Playhouse, a morning talk show hosted by an ex-boyfriend from her hometown. She has appeared in Species III, Pauly Shore's " Minding the Store" as Pauly's girlfriend, Comedy Central's " Mind of Mencia", and was the star in the film "Small Change". As a model she has worked overseas in print and television commercials with Samsung, LG, and Perry Ellis. She is one of the models of Benchwarmer Trading Cards. She has a role in the New Line film Grilled starring Ray Romano, Kevin James, and Burt Reynolds. The movie went direct to DVD in 2006.
In 2008, Peniche hosted several TV shows, including "LND TV". She also released a line of clothing called "Strung Out", showing her spring collection at Portland Fashion week.
Peregrine, you've made excellent improvements, but I'm not so sure about listing all the scandals in the lead. The goal should be to write a complete biography of the woman, and the fact that her scandalous moments are all reported instantly I believe makes them appear more notable than they are. Just because something has a lot of sources over a 3 day period does not mean it's a particularly notably event, justifying placement in the lead paragraph.
My inclination would be to keep the lead section pretty short for now, and focus on rounding out the rest of the article. What do you think? - Pete ( talk) 04:17, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
I don't have the ref, but what's the deal? - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 04:26, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
But, the reason most reliable sources have commented on her is the video, so I'm thinking we should mention it in some way in the lead. Something tasteful. Maybe "News sources have commented on a home video with her and married couple and actors Eric Dane and Rebecca Gayheart." or something. It doesn't define her, but it is big with reliable sources and their coverage. - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 05:44, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
She never held that title? Lots of news sources comment on it. "miss+teen+usa" - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 19:01, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
She never was Miss Teen USA. "2002 won VANESSA SEMROW" and "2003, TAMI FARRELL (Oregon!!!)"
I think it's going to disappear soon. I tried to save it at Webcite, but it's not allowed. I guess use it as long as it exists? - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 05:51, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
I changed the last sentence the following, since this is just an allegation: According to an August 31, 2009 FoxNews report, the Los Angeles Police Department is investigating allegations that Peniche is also a Hollywood madam.[19] Dogru144 ( talk) 15:52, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
The article currently gives the pronunciation of her last name as "Pun-ee-chee", but assuming this is a Spanish surname (her father is from Mexico), then the correct pronunciation is closer to "Peh-NEE-chay". WatchAndObserve ( talk) 04:47, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
Anyone else think this article is unduly focused on Peniche's personal issues? I understand that might be what many people find interesting about her, but it's not the reason she's notable, and it doesn't need to be covered in the detail it is here - particularly when much of the content is only referenced to primary sources. Robofish ( talk) 12:14, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
In any event, I don't see how that's a neutrality issue, given the tag you placed in the article. Nightscream ( talk) 20:01, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
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I recommend this be page be locked for edits while the rumors and tabloid gossip fly over the latest nude tape incident. Also, I don't feel gossip from sites like Gawker needs to be included unless it's from a verified source and not just tabloid rumor. -- User:scottjduffy —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scottjduffy ( talk • contribs) 13:40, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
I really don't think a site like this qualifies as a reliable source, but this is the only source I could find that says she was removed from the TV show. I don't work much on celebrity articles -- my instinct is to include it with the barest fact (that she left the show), and leave it at that. - Pete ( talk) 03:17, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
I just watched the first episode and she was most definitely booted for being abusive and punching a camera man. In a later episode, Bob the counselor asks the group if she can come back and every member of the house rejects that idea, except Tom Sizemore. If I knew how to cite something I've watched, I would... 174.31.26.71 ( talk)
She was featured on E! "Beauty Queens Gone Wrong" as number 13 in the 2 hour count down of Pageant Scandals.
Since relinquishing her title, Peniche appeared on one of the highest rated episodes of The Howard Stern Show and The Playhouse, a morning talk show hosted by an ex-boyfriend from her hometown. She has appeared in Species III, Pauly Shore's " Minding the Store" as Pauly's girlfriend, Comedy Central's " Mind of Mencia", and was the star in the film "Small Change". As a model she has worked overseas in print and television commercials with Samsung, LG, and Perry Ellis. She is one of the models of Benchwarmer Trading Cards. She has a role in the New Line film Grilled starring Ray Romano, Kevin James, and Burt Reynolds. The movie went direct to DVD in 2006.
In 2008, Peniche hosted several TV shows, including "LND TV". She also released a line of clothing called "Strung Out", showing her spring collection at Portland Fashion week.
Peregrine, you've made excellent improvements, but I'm not so sure about listing all the scandals in the lead. The goal should be to write a complete biography of the woman, and the fact that her scandalous moments are all reported instantly I believe makes them appear more notable than they are. Just because something has a lot of sources over a 3 day period does not mean it's a particularly notably event, justifying placement in the lead paragraph.
My inclination would be to keep the lead section pretty short for now, and focus on rounding out the rest of the article. What do you think? - Pete ( talk) 04:17, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
I don't have the ref, but what's the deal? - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 04:26, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
But, the reason most reliable sources have commented on her is the video, so I'm thinking we should mention it in some way in the lead. Something tasteful. Maybe "News sources have commented on a home video with her and married couple and actors Eric Dane and Rebecca Gayheart." or something. It doesn't define her, but it is big with reliable sources and their coverage. - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 05:44, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
She never held that title? Lots of news sources comment on it. "miss+teen+usa" - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 19:01, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
She never was Miss Teen USA. "2002 won VANESSA SEMROW" and "2003, TAMI FARRELL (Oregon!!!)"
I think it's going to disappear soon. I tried to save it at Webcite, but it's not allowed. I guess use it as long as it exists? - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 05:51, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
I changed the last sentence the following, since this is just an allegation: According to an August 31, 2009 FoxNews report, the Los Angeles Police Department is investigating allegations that Peniche is also a Hollywood madam.[19] Dogru144 ( talk) 15:52, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
The article currently gives the pronunciation of her last name as "Pun-ee-chee", but assuming this is a Spanish surname (her father is from Mexico), then the correct pronunciation is closer to "Peh-NEE-chay". WatchAndObserve ( talk) 04:47, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
Anyone else think this article is unduly focused on Peniche's personal issues? I understand that might be what many people find interesting about her, but it's not the reason she's notable, and it doesn't need to be covered in the detail it is here - particularly when much of the content is only referenced to primary sources. Robofish ( talk) 12:14, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
In any event, I don't see how that's a neutrality issue, given the tag you placed in the article. Nightscream ( talk) 20:01, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
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