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This is fairly fundamental. This article should be taken down or heavily revised due to translation errors and misunderstanding.
The Japanese "tsuki" from the verb "tsuku" means "to thrust", it _quite explicitly_ does *not* mean punch. The Japanese verb to punch or hit is "nagur" or "naguru" not "tsuki".
This is of crucial importance because many of the movements in karate kata which are interpreted in the west as punches due to the nomenclature are in fact, *not* punches. The english word "punch" makes assumptions about the intent of the movement, and those assumptions are not there in the original Japanese or Okinawan. The word "thrust" simply *describes* the movement, punch describes the intent of the movement. Many of the movements in kata described as punches in the west are instead grabs of the opponent's body or clothing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.228.216.128 ( talk) 10:10, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
The Japanese "uke" is the infinitive from the verb "ukeru" and means "to receive", not "block". This is also crucial because many of the "uke" techniques in karate have nothing to do with blocking punches or strikes. They deal with receiving and handling other common types of attack against the practitioner.
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I believe that Gyaku zuki, Shita tsuki and Enpi (elbow strike) should be merged into this article they are sparsely sourced but notable techniques rather than delete them it would be better served preserving them by merging them here. Dwanyewest ( talk) 00:21, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
The other place I think a merger might be appropriate is List of karate terms. Dwanyewest ( talk) 20:25, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Received at Merge Request Noticeboard: Merge Gedan barai into the article Karate techniques. Dwanyewest ( talk) 19:05, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
i like they — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.166.250.235 ( talk) 18:48, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
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This is fairly fundamental. This article should be taken down or heavily revised due to translation errors and misunderstanding.
The Japanese "tsuki" from the verb "tsuku" means "to thrust", it _quite explicitly_ does *not* mean punch. The Japanese verb to punch or hit is "nagur" or "naguru" not "tsuki".
This is of crucial importance because many of the movements in karate kata which are interpreted in the west as punches due to the nomenclature are in fact, *not* punches. The english word "punch" makes assumptions about the intent of the movement, and those assumptions are not there in the original Japanese or Okinawan. The word "thrust" simply *describes* the movement, punch describes the intent of the movement. Many of the movements in kata described as punches in the west are instead grabs of the opponent's body or clothing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.228.216.128 ( talk) 10:10, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
The Japanese "uke" is the infinitive from the verb "ukeru" and means "to receive", not "block". This is also crucial because many of the "uke" techniques in karate have nothing to do with blocking punches or strikes. They deal with receiving and handling other common types of attack against the practitioner.
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I believe that Gyaku zuki, Shita tsuki and Enpi (elbow strike) should be merged into this article they are sparsely sourced but notable techniques rather than delete them it would be better served preserving them by merging them here. Dwanyewest ( talk) 00:21, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
The other place I think a merger might be appropriate is List of karate terms. Dwanyewest ( talk) 20:25, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Received at Merge Request Noticeboard: Merge Gedan barai into the article Karate techniques. Dwanyewest ( talk) 19:05, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
i like they — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.166.250.235 ( talk) 18:48, 27 May 2022 (UTC)