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I was under the impression that this song is an entirely different song from the Fats Domino version (as per Kansas City (song)), but this begs to differ. Comments? — Gordon P. Hemsley→ ✉ 13:38, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Some clarification is in order. The version of "Kansas City" recorded by The Beatles on Beatles For Sale should always have been credited as a medley of Leiber & Stoller's "Kansas City" and Little Richard's (Richard Penniman's) "Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey." The omission of Little Richard's song title and writer's credit was an error. That error has since been corrected (including the restoration of money to Little Richard that was incorrectly paid to Leiber & Stoller), and all subsequent official issues of the medley have the correct credits. Pstoller 02:39, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
It appears to me that the song has very little to do with the Beatles, other than they sang it on one of their albums, much like others mentioned on the page. However, for some reason, The Beatles are prominent in the information about this page, complete with a picture of the album. This shows a disservice to the song, and others who sang it. Furthermore, as mentioned by the article, the version of "Kansas City" by the Beatles isn't even similar lyrics, much less arrangement, so I would argue that it really shouldn't be considered the same song. Wit that said, I would argue that the Beatles infobox be removed from this page, or an infobox for all major artists that have covered this song be added to the page. As such, and in accordance with other comments on this page, I am removing it from this page about a great, non-beatles song. Jon Thompson 00:27, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
As others and myself have pointed out, this article is not actually about the Beatles' version of the song, it is about the song itself, which is a classic Blues song, and _not_ a pop medley, as appears in the infobox. The copy of the article is sufficient in mentioning that the Beatles' version, without prominently displaying a picture of the album that it resides on, which incorrectly puts an emphasis on a derivative version of the song, rather than the song itself. The original song has different lyrics, different style, and different arrangement. The only thing similar between the two are the words "I'm Going to Kansas City". This issue seems to me to be rather binary- the infobox is there or not. Adding more info boxes for other versions would be silly, as there are so many versions of this song. I have two versions on my iPod from James Brown alone. If you can think of a compromise, please let me know, as I certainly cannot. Jon Thompson 18:16, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Any song that has been a hit three separate times, is considered a standard, has been recorded by the Beatles and Little Richard as well as "hundreds" of others, is notable by definition, so I removed the concern-troll whine marker. Ortolan88 ( talk) 16:10, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
we can take the image of the single from this site and add it in as fair use: [1](mercurywoodrose) 66.80.6.163 ( talk) 23:42, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
MOS:MUSIC#Names (definite article) makes it quite clear. They even use the Beatles as an example:
Mid-sentence, per the MoS, the word "the" should in general not be capitalized in continuous prose, e.g.:
- Wings featured Paul McCartney from the Beatles and Denny Laine from the Moody Blues.
Again, see Beatles (FA) and Sgt Pepper (GA) for the currently accepted practice.
The rest of the edit follows MOS and guidelines. Discuss your specific objections, rather than a wholesale revert. — Ojorojo ( talk) 15:59, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
The remainder of the edits are silly. An infobox should be removed because it drops down into another section? As for the list of musicians, I think it's better in than out, but to say it violates WP:WEIGHT is ridiculous, it's just giving additional information to our readers and isn't prejudicial to anything else on the page. BMK ( talk) 16:08, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
The version of "Kansas City" performed by Little Richard and next covered by The Beatles was mistakenly called "Kansas City/Hey-Hey-Hey-Hey (a medley)". The title announcing this non-existent medley did appear only on a later pressings of
Beatles_for_Sale, due to an intervention of Venice Music, being an interested party (see
Notes here). But actually nor Little Richard, neither The Beatles did never perform this so-called medley, them did perform "Kansas City".
There is
the chronology of recordings by Little Richard and their releases:
September 13, 1955: "Kansas City", at least two takes. This first version was very close to the original song by Leiber & Stoller, but was first released only in 1971 (take 2 of this version, which runs 2:16).
November 29, 1955: "Kansas City", at least eight takes. This second version, very different from the first one (in particular, including a refrain starting by the words "Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey") was first released in March 1959 (it runs 2:37).
May 9, 1956: "Hey-Hey-Hey-Hey", at least eight takes. This song, having not to do with "Kansas City" (except a title and verse similar to the refrain of "Kansas City" 2nd version) was released in January 1958.
So none of versions of "Kansas City", both recorded by Little Richard in autumn 1955, can be a medley with "Hey-Hey-Hey-Hey", recorded a half of year later.
January 1958:
Single Specialty 624 "Good Golly Miss Molly" backed by "Hey-Hey-Hey-Hey" is released.
March 1959:
Album "The Fabulous Little Richard" (Specialty LP-2104) including "Kansas City" (2nd version) is released.
April 1959:
Single Specialty 664 "Kansas City" (same 2nd version) is released.
No "Hey-Hey-Hey-Hey" on title of song, no "medley", the title is simply "Kansas City".
However, as "Hey-Hey-Hey-Hey" was released more than a year before "Kansas City", it was considered as preceding "Kansas City". That "inverse chronology", together with a similarity of the word "Hey" repeated four times in both songs, created a mistake.
This second version of "Kansas City" issued in 1959 was covered by The Beatles. No medley here.
1971:
Album "Well Alright!" (Specialty LP-2136), including the first version of "Kansas City", called the same way as the first issued second one: "Kansas City".
This obvious mistake, being created accidentally or intentionally, should be fixed.
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I was under the impression that this song is an entirely different song from the Fats Domino version (as per Kansas City (song)), but this begs to differ. Comments? — Gordon P. Hemsley→ ✉ 13:38, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Some clarification is in order. The version of "Kansas City" recorded by The Beatles on Beatles For Sale should always have been credited as a medley of Leiber & Stoller's "Kansas City" and Little Richard's (Richard Penniman's) "Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey." The omission of Little Richard's song title and writer's credit was an error. That error has since been corrected (including the restoration of money to Little Richard that was incorrectly paid to Leiber & Stoller), and all subsequent official issues of the medley have the correct credits. Pstoller 02:39, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
It appears to me that the song has very little to do with the Beatles, other than they sang it on one of their albums, much like others mentioned on the page. However, for some reason, The Beatles are prominent in the information about this page, complete with a picture of the album. This shows a disservice to the song, and others who sang it. Furthermore, as mentioned by the article, the version of "Kansas City" by the Beatles isn't even similar lyrics, much less arrangement, so I would argue that it really shouldn't be considered the same song. Wit that said, I would argue that the Beatles infobox be removed from this page, or an infobox for all major artists that have covered this song be added to the page. As such, and in accordance with other comments on this page, I am removing it from this page about a great, non-beatles song. Jon Thompson 00:27, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
As others and myself have pointed out, this article is not actually about the Beatles' version of the song, it is about the song itself, which is a classic Blues song, and _not_ a pop medley, as appears in the infobox. The copy of the article is sufficient in mentioning that the Beatles' version, without prominently displaying a picture of the album that it resides on, which incorrectly puts an emphasis on a derivative version of the song, rather than the song itself. The original song has different lyrics, different style, and different arrangement. The only thing similar between the two are the words "I'm Going to Kansas City". This issue seems to me to be rather binary- the infobox is there or not. Adding more info boxes for other versions would be silly, as there are so many versions of this song. I have two versions on my iPod from James Brown alone. If you can think of a compromise, please let me know, as I certainly cannot. Jon Thompson 18:16, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Any song that has been a hit three separate times, is considered a standard, has been recorded by the Beatles and Little Richard as well as "hundreds" of others, is notable by definition, so I removed the concern-troll whine marker. Ortolan88 ( talk) 16:10, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
we can take the image of the single from this site and add it in as fair use: [1](mercurywoodrose) 66.80.6.163 ( talk) 23:42, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
MOS:MUSIC#Names (definite article) makes it quite clear. They even use the Beatles as an example:
Mid-sentence, per the MoS, the word "the" should in general not be capitalized in continuous prose, e.g.:
- Wings featured Paul McCartney from the Beatles and Denny Laine from the Moody Blues.
Again, see Beatles (FA) and Sgt Pepper (GA) for the currently accepted practice.
The rest of the edit follows MOS and guidelines. Discuss your specific objections, rather than a wholesale revert. — Ojorojo ( talk) 15:59, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
The remainder of the edits are silly. An infobox should be removed because it drops down into another section? As for the list of musicians, I think it's better in than out, but to say it violates WP:WEIGHT is ridiculous, it's just giving additional information to our readers and isn't prejudicial to anything else on the page. BMK ( talk) 16:08, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
The version of "Kansas City" performed by Little Richard and next covered by The Beatles was mistakenly called "Kansas City/Hey-Hey-Hey-Hey (a medley)". The title announcing this non-existent medley did appear only on a later pressings of
Beatles_for_Sale, due to an intervention of Venice Music, being an interested party (see
Notes here). But actually nor Little Richard, neither The Beatles did never perform this so-called medley, them did perform "Kansas City".
There is
the chronology of recordings by Little Richard and their releases:
September 13, 1955: "Kansas City", at least two takes. This first version was very close to the original song by Leiber & Stoller, but was first released only in 1971 (take 2 of this version, which runs 2:16).
November 29, 1955: "Kansas City", at least eight takes. This second version, very different from the first one (in particular, including a refrain starting by the words "Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey") was first released in March 1959 (it runs 2:37).
May 9, 1956: "Hey-Hey-Hey-Hey", at least eight takes. This song, having not to do with "Kansas City" (except a title and verse similar to the refrain of "Kansas City" 2nd version) was released in January 1958.
So none of versions of "Kansas City", both recorded by Little Richard in autumn 1955, can be a medley with "Hey-Hey-Hey-Hey", recorded a half of year later.
January 1958:
Single Specialty 624 "Good Golly Miss Molly" backed by "Hey-Hey-Hey-Hey" is released.
March 1959:
Album "The Fabulous Little Richard" (Specialty LP-2104) including "Kansas City" (2nd version) is released.
April 1959:
Single Specialty 664 "Kansas City" (same 2nd version) is released.
No "Hey-Hey-Hey-Hey" on title of song, no "medley", the title is simply "Kansas City".
However, as "Hey-Hey-Hey-Hey" was released more than a year before "Kansas City", it was considered as preceding "Kansas City". That "inverse chronology", together with a similarity of the word "Hey" repeated four times in both songs, created a mistake.
This second version of "Kansas City" issued in 1959 was covered by The Beatles. No medley here.
1971:
Album "Well Alright!" (Specialty LP-2136), including the first version of "Kansas City", called the same way as the first issued second one: "Kansas City".
This obvious mistake, being created accidentally or intentionally, should be fixed.
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