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Add to the end of the first paragraph: after the Estadio_Nacional_disaster of May 24, 1964. 71.231.156.74 ( talk) 11:01, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
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In the first paragraph a sentence starts with “125”. Per the MoS, this should be “One hundred twenty-five” as sentence should not start with a numerical number, the number should instead be spelled out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1011:B190:8876:80E5:3AAD:E968:1411 ( talk) 02:58, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
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Please remove this sentence:
18 of police officers who are operating the tear gas launcher is being investigated by the police.
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Investigators are also examining the role of eighteen police officers who operated the tear gas launcher.
Thanks. 120.21.144.99 ( talk) 20:22, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
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Please un-bold the sentences of 1 October 2022 in the opening part of the article. 36.68.198.229 ( talk) 23:19, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
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Please change the sentence in the opening part of the article from:
On October 6 2022, Head of Indonesian police Listyo Sigit Prabowo announced six suspects
to
On 6 October 2022, Head of Indonesian police Listyo Sigit Prabowo announced six suspects 125.167.59.139 ( talk) 20:24, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
The scope of the regulation (from page 12):
3. If an association or confederation arranges an event that will be administrated and governed by its own competition regulations, the respective association’s or confederation’s own safety and security regulations shall apply and these regulations may only serve as guidelines.
In short, FIFA does not mandate the regulation to be followed at national competition. This is only mandatory for FIFA events. 2001:448A:50E2:F771:EDE7:CC63:3516:FCE1 ( talk) 08:16, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
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@ WaddlesJP13: Shouldn't the title include "disaster" instead of "stampede" in order to harmonize it with articles of similar case? Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 00:52, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Should we create reaction section? Aftermath will show how the condition of people and venue, meanwhile the reaction section will cover reaction of federation, police, and world. BurningHill ( talk) 08:38, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Early close, not moved. Closing this early since the consensus and findings of fact are quite clear. The two historical events that are equivalent peers both use the term "disaster" ( Accra Sports Stadium disaster and Estadio Nacional disaster). As Dhiosk pointed out, they are not just superficially similar, as they had nearly identical conditions where authorities firing tear gas to disperse the crowd, resulting in large-scale fatalities beyond just a "stampede." The two examples cited in the move request are no more than stub articles, so they are not representative of best practices. It is also instructive to look at the Wikidata item to see what Wikipedia articles in other languages are using, and the vast majority use words such as "tragedy" (Bahasa Indonesian) and "disaster" (Dutch/Netherlands). Malay uses "riot," and French as an outlier is the only one using "stampede." If there is interest to discuss the other standing issue, including the year in the name, another move request can be made. - Fuzheado | Talk 15:19, 3 October 2022 (UTC) Fuzheado | Talk 18:03, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
2022 Kanjuruhan Stadium disaster → 2022 Kanjuruhan Stadium stampede – Apologies if its too early for this, but many similar articles have been titled with "stampede" as opposed to "disaster". This would also be a more accurate title, specifying the nature of the disaster as a stampede. See 1 and 2 for a few examples. Precise and recognizable in accordance with WP:CRITERIA. — That Coptic Guy ( talk) 04:25, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Another source refered to the crush: [2]...as a result of the tear gas being fired, fans rushed to one exit and “then there was a build-up”. “That process caused shortness of breath [and] lack of oxygen and medical teams tried to do rescue efforts in the stadium,” he said.
No prejudice to revisiting this after authorities investigate further.— Bagumba ( talk) 10:46, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Afinta said many people were crushed and suffocated when they ran to one exit.
The result of the move request was: Early close, moved. Closing this early since the consensus is clear, unanimous, and supported by policy with WP:NOYEAR and all other peer articles. - Fuzheado | Talk 10:59, 4 October 2022 (UTC) Fuzheado | Talk 10:59, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Some articles do not need a year for disambiguation when, in historic perspective, the event is easily described without it.
There was no other disaster in the stadium so we don't need the "2022" identifier. Dunutubble ( talk) ( Contributions) 15:48, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
References
In the lead section, it is mentioned that in total 125 people died in incident. However, in the body section, it is mentioned that 125 supporters and 2 police officers are now dead. Should we only count civilian casualties or should we include police deaths? Sir Kenneth Kho ( talk) 13:49, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
The following paragraph from the Lead section is exactly identical with the paragraph from the Casualties section:
Following a meeting with various officials of the Malang and East Java regional government, Coordinating Minister for Human Development and Cultural Affairs Muhadjir Effendy anounced that "the final amount of casualties, which have been verified by all parties involved, including the Police and the organizers, are 448 casualties". Muhadjir further specified that out of the 448 casualties, 125 people died, 302 people suffered minor injuries, and 21 people suffered serious injuries.[1] This number of casualties is disputed by human rights organization KontraS.[44]
Lead section is only supposed to contain a brief overview of the article. Perhaps it should be trimmed to something like this:
Following a meeting with various officials of the Malang and East Java regional government, Coordinating Minister for Human Development and Cultural Affairs Muhadjir Effendy anounced that 125 people died, 302 people suffered minor injuries, and 21 people suffered serious injuries.[1] This number of casualties is disputed by human rights organization KontraS.[44] Sir Kenneth Kho ( talk) 12:19, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
from Background: FIFA regulation 19b states that tear gas should not be used in stadiums by pitchside stewards or police -- why not?
from Investigation: the police also stated that they will evaluate the use of tear gas -- what are the risks/benefits they are evaluating?
Both of these comments are well-sourced but vague. Tear gas can accumulate at ground level. Also, it is designed to disperse a crowd who will run from the source into open air in order to breathe more freely. A bowl-shaped stadium exacerbates its effects. Can anyone clarify with a reliable source about tear gas being more dangerous (or even fatal) in enclosed areas? Some local press implied that there were asphyxiation deaths attributable to the chemical not the crush of human bodies. Martindo ( talk) 12:57, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
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Apparently, these YouTube channels provided satisfactory primary-source documentations during and after the disaster, many licensed under CC BY-3.0:
SOPO INGSUN for records of the disaster, and
ANT channel 1 for very, very detailed records around Kanjuruhan Stadium after the disaster. Feel free to screenshot, choose and upload to Wikimedia as needed, but don't forget to check the CC licenses of individual records.
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Please change the sentence in legal section from "The match must be held far from the Malang home base, up to 250 km from the location."
to
"The match must be held far from the Malang home base, up to 250 km (155.34 mi) from the location" (using km to mi convert). 125.167.59.139 ( talk) 22:36, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
I'm mentioning this here in case of an edit war (which I would avoid) happens on this topic. I think that it's too early to say that
Aremania (as a whole?) is the suspect, let alone the sole suspect, in this disaster. Investigations are still in their early phase and no investigating bodies, government-based or independent, stated any suspect yet. Maybe consider that many news reports stated that multiple stakeholders are to blame. These news include and especially emphasized the blame on tear gas-using police officers, as well as the organizing committee and security officers that are present on the disaster, alongside a big number (±3000) of violent Aremania members that invaded the field. Saying Aremania as the suspect without giving context also ignores the much bigger number of non-violent Aremania folks that stayed in the tribunes, and possibly suffered more deaths, compared to the violent Aremania folks.
So, until any investigation report comes out, I think it's better to leave the 'suspect' box empty. Dhio ( talk?) 08:25, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
Adding Kanjuruhan Tragedy and Arema Tragedy on the first paragraph. In Indonesian media, the tragedy is called Kanjuruhan Tragedy, and sometimes Arema Tragedy, by multiple mainstream and regional media, and the Police.
Kanjuruhan Tragedy:
https://news.detik.com/berita/d-6324274/tragedi-kanjuruhan-kronologi-penyebab-dan-jumlah-korban https://polri.go.id/berita-polri/2297 https://www.cnnindonesia.com/olahraga/20221003071649-142-855486/aremania-bantur-kronologi-tragedi-kanjuruhan-dipicu-dari-minta-foto https://sultra.antaranews.com/berita/429877/tragedi-kanjuruhan-ketua-panpel-arema-fc-dilarang-beraktivitas-di-sepak-bola-seumur-hidup https://www.liputan6.com/bola/read/5087156/headline-tragedi-kanjuruhan-malang-lembar-kelam-sepak-bola-indonesia https://www.bolasport.com/read/313510319/12-orang-sudah-mendapatkan-hukuman-atas-tragedi-kanjuruhan https://nasional.kompas.com/read/2022/10/04/21130411/akbp-ferli-hidayat-dicopot-buntut-tragedi-kanjuruhan-anggota-komisi-iii https://www.cnbcindonesia.com/news/20221005082946-7-377277/liga-champions-tragedi-kanjuruhan-dan-sindirian-untuk-polri https://www.merdeka.com/peristiwa/komdis-pssi-ungkap-hasil-investigasi-tragedi-kanjuruhan-ini-lengkapnya-hot-issue.html https://www.suarasurabaya.net/kelanakota/2022/tragedi-kanjuruhan-dalam-catatan-warganet/
Arema Tragedy:
https://www.voaindonesia.com/a/tragedi-malang-pudarkan-ambisi-olahraga-indonesia-/6774753.html
https://www.krjogja.com/olahraga/read/475029/tragedi-arema-jadi-insiden-paling-mematikan-di-stadion-dalam-40-tahun TheWandering ( talk) 03:56, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
This event has no established name. And how could it have one? It happened only a few days ago. You will find sources calling it Kanjuruhan disaster, Kanjuruhan tragedy, Kanjuruhan crush, Indonesia stadium tragedy, Kanjuruhan incident, Indonesia football stadium disaster, Indonesia football stampede, Indonesia's stampede disaster, Indonesia soccer tragedy, etc. None of these is the name for it and none of them should be highlighted in the lead as if it were a proper name. Per MOS:FIRST a merely descriptive title of the article should not appear in boldface. Surtsicna ( talk) 06:23, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
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The current opening sentence of the article is grammatically incorrect. So, please change the opening sentence of the article to more concise and clear word from "A fatal human crush occurred during an association football match at Kanjuruhan Stadium in Malang Regency, East Java, Indonesia, on 1 October 2022." to "On 1 October 2022, a fatal human crush occurred during an association football match at Kanjuruhan Stadium in Malang Regency, East Java, Indonesia." 180.254.165.250 ( talk) 14:08, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
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Please change the opening sentence from "On October 1 2022" to "On 1 October 2022". Thank you. 180.254.165.250 ( talk) 12:25, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
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Add to the end of the first paragraph: after the Estadio_Nacional_disaster of May 24, 1964. 71.231.156.74 ( talk) 11:01, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
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In the first paragraph a sentence starts with “125”. Per the MoS, this should be “One hundred twenty-five” as sentence should not start with a numerical number, the number should instead be spelled out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1011:B190:8876:80E5:3AAD:E968:1411 ( talk) 02:58, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
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Please remove this sentence:
18 of police officers who are operating the tear gas launcher is being investigated by the police.
and add this:
Investigators are also examining the role of eighteen police officers who operated the tear gas launcher.
Thanks. 120.21.144.99 ( talk) 20:22, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
Done
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Please un-bold the sentences of 1 October 2022 in the opening part of the article. 36.68.198.229 ( talk) 23:19, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
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Please change the sentence in the opening part of the article from:
On October 6 2022, Head of Indonesian police Listyo Sigit Prabowo announced six suspects
to
On 6 October 2022, Head of Indonesian police Listyo Sigit Prabowo announced six suspects 125.167.59.139 ( talk) 20:24, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
The scope of the regulation (from page 12):
3. If an association or confederation arranges an event that will be administrated and governed by its own competition regulations, the respective association’s or confederation’s own safety and security regulations shall apply and these regulations may only serve as guidelines.
In short, FIFA does not mandate the regulation to be followed at national competition. This is only mandatory for FIFA events. 2001:448A:50E2:F771:EDE7:CC63:3516:FCE1 ( talk) 08:16, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
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@ WaddlesJP13: Shouldn't the title include "disaster" instead of "stampede" in order to harmonize it with articles of similar case? Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 00:52, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Should we create reaction section? Aftermath will show how the condition of people and venue, meanwhile the reaction section will cover reaction of federation, police, and world. BurningHill ( talk) 08:38, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Early close, not moved. Closing this early since the consensus and findings of fact are quite clear. The two historical events that are equivalent peers both use the term "disaster" ( Accra Sports Stadium disaster and Estadio Nacional disaster). As Dhiosk pointed out, they are not just superficially similar, as they had nearly identical conditions where authorities firing tear gas to disperse the crowd, resulting in large-scale fatalities beyond just a "stampede." The two examples cited in the move request are no more than stub articles, so they are not representative of best practices. It is also instructive to look at the Wikidata item to see what Wikipedia articles in other languages are using, and the vast majority use words such as "tragedy" (Bahasa Indonesian) and "disaster" (Dutch/Netherlands). Malay uses "riot," and French as an outlier is the only one using "stampede." If there is interest to discuss the other standing issue, including the year in the name, another move request can be made. - Fuzheado | Talk 15:19, 3 October 2022 (UTC) Fuzheado | Talk 18:03, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
2022 Kanjuruhan Stadium disaster → 2022 Kanjuruhan Stadium stampede – Apologies if its too early for this, but many similar articles have been titled with "stampede" as opposed to "disaster". This would also be a more accurate title, specifying the nature of the disaster as a stampede. See 1 and 2 for a few examples. Precise and recognizable in accordance with WP:CRITERIA. — That Coptic Guy ( talk) 04:25, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Another source refered to the crush: [2]...as a result of the tear gas being fired, fans rushed to one exit and “then there was a build-up”. “That process caused shortness of breath [and] lack of oxygen and medical teams tried to do rescue efforts in the stadium,” he said.
No prejudice to revisiting this after authorities investigate further.— Bagumba ( talk) 10:46, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Afinta said many people were crushed and suffocated when they ran to one exit.
The result of the move request was: Early close, moved. Closing this early since the consensus is clear, unanimous, and supported by policy with WP:NOYEAR and all other peer articles. - Fuzheado | Talk 10:59, 4 October 2022 (UTC) Fuzheado | Talk 10:59, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Some articles do not need a year for disambiguation when, in historic perspective, the event is easily described without it.
There was no other disaster in the stadium so we don't need the "2022" identifier. Dunutubble ( talk) ( Contributions) 15:48, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
References
In the lead section, it is mentioned that in total 125 people died in incident. However, in the body section, it is mentioned that 125 supporters and 2 police officers are now dead. Should we only count civilian casualties or should we include police deaths? Sir Kenneth Kho ( talk) 13:49, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
The following paragraph from the Lead section is exactly identical with the paragraph from the Casualties section:
Following a meeting with various officials of the Malang and East Java regional government, Coordinating Minister for Human Development and Cultural Affairs Muhadjir Effendy anounced that "the final amount of casualties, which have been verified by all parties involved, including the Police and the organizers, are 448 casualties". Muhadjir further specified that out of the 448 casualties, 125 people died, 302 people suffered minor injuries, and 21 people suffered serious injuries.[1] This number of casualties is disputed by human rights organization KontraS.[44]
Lead section is only supposed to contain a brief overview of the article. Perhaps it should be trimmed to something like this:
Following a meeting with various officials of the Malang and East Java regional government, Coordinating Minister for Human Development and Cultural Affairs Muhadjir Effendy anounced that 125 people died, 302 people suffered minor injuries, and 21 people suffered serious injuries.[1] This number of casualties is disputed by human rights organization KontraS.[44] Sir Kenneth Kho ( talk) 12:19, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
from Background: FIFA regulation 19b states that tear gas should not be used in stadiums by pitchside stewards or police -- why not?
from Investigation: the police also stated that they will evaluate the use of tear gas -- what are the risks/benefits they are evaluating?
Both of these comments are well-sourced but vague. Tear gas can accumulate at ground level. Also, it is designed to disperse a crowd who will run from the source into open air in order to breathe more freely. A bowl-shaped stadium exacerbates its effects. Can anyone clarify with a reliable source about tear gas being more dangerous (or even fatal) in enclosed areas? Some local press implied that there were asphyxiation deaths attributable to the chemical not the crush of human bodies. Martindo ( talk) 12:57, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Copied from the
Commons talk page:
Apparently, these YouTube channels provided satisfactory primary-source documentations during and after the disaster, many licensed under CC BY-3.0:
SOPO INGSUN for records of the disaster, and
ANT channel 1 for very, very detailed records around Kanjuruhan Stadium after the disaster. Feel free to screenshot, choose and upload to Wikimedia as needed, but don't forget to check the CC licenses of individual records.
Dhio (
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Please change the sentence in legal section from "The match must be held far from the Malang home base, up to 250 km from the location."
to
"The match must be held far from the Malang home base, up to 250 km (155.34 mi) from the location" (using km to mi convert). 125.167.59.139 ( talk) 22:36, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
I'm mentioning this here in case of an edit war (which I would avoid) happens on this topic. I think that it's too early to say that
Aremania (as a whole?) is the suspect, let alone the sole suspect, in this disaster. Investigations are still in their early phase and no investigating bodies, government-based or independent, stated any suspect yet. Maybe consider that many news reports stated that multiple stakeholders are to blame. These news include and especially emphasized the blame on tear gas-using police officers, as well as the organizing committee and security officers that are present on the disaster, alongside a big number (±3000) of violent Aremania members that invaded the field. Saying Aremania as the suspect without giving context also ignores the much bigger number of non-violent Aremania folks that stayed in the tribunes, and possibly suffered more deaths, compared to the violent Aremania folks.
So, until any investigation report comes out, I think it's better to leave the 'suspect' box empty. Dhio ( talk?) 08:25, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
Adding Kanjuruhan Tragedy and Arema Tragedy on the first paragraph. In Indonesian media, the tragedy is called Kanjuruhan Tragedy, and sometimes Arema Tragedy, by multiple mainstream and regional media, and the Police.
Kanjuruhan Tragedy:
https://news.detik.com/berita/d-6324274/tragedi-kanjuruhan-kronologi-penyebab-dan-jumlah-korban https://polri.go.id/berita-polri/2297 https://www.cnnindonesia.com/olahraga/20221003071649-142-855486/aremania-bantur-kronologi-tragedi-kanjuruhan-dipicu-dari-minta-foto https://sultra.antaranews.com/berita/429877/tragedi-kanjuruhan-ketua-panpel-arema-fc-dilarang-beraktivitas-di-sepak-bola-seumur-hidup https://www.liputan6.com/bola/read/5087156/headline-tragedi-kanjuruhan-malang-lembar-kelam-sepak-bola-indonesia https://www.bolasport.com/read/313510319/12-orang-sudah-mendapatkan-hukuman-atas-tragedi-kanjuruhan https://nasional.kompas.com/read/2022/10/04/21130411/akbp-ferli-hidayat-dicopot-buntut-tragedi-kanjuruhan-anggota-komisi-iii https://www.cnbcindonesia.com/news/20221005082946-7-377277/liga-champions-tragedi-kanjuruhan-dan-sindirian-untuk-polri https://www.merdeka.com/peristiwa/komdis-pssi-ungkap-hasil-investigasi-tragedi-kanjuruhan-ini-lengkapnya-hot-issue.html https://www.suarasurabaya.net/kelanakota/2022/tragedi-kanjuruhan-dalam-catatan-warganet/
Arema Tragedy:
https://www.voaindonesia.com/a/tragedi-malang-pudarkan-ambisi-olahraga-indonesia-/6774753.html
https://www.krjogja.com/olahraga/read/475029/tragedi-arema-jadi-insiden-paling-mematikan-di-stadion-dalam-40-tahun TheWandering ( talk) 03:56, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
This event has no established name. And how could it have one? It happened only a few days ago. You will find sources calling it Kanjuruhan disaster, Kanjuruhan tragedy, Kanjuruhan crush, Indonesia stadium tragedy, Kanjuruhan incident, Indonesia football stadium disaster, Indonesia football stampede, Indonesia's stampede disaster, Indonesia soccer tragedy, etc. None of these is the name for it and none of them should be highlighted in the lead as if it were a proper name. Per MOS:FIRST a merely descriptive title of the article should not appear in boldface. Surtsicna ( talk) 06:23, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
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The current opening sentence of the article is grammatically incorrect. So, please change the opening sentence of the article to more concise and clear word from "A fatal human crush occurred during an association football match at Kanjuruhan Stadium in Malang Regency, East Java, Indonesia, on 1 October 2022." to "On 1 October 2022, a fatal human crush occurred during an association football match at Kanjuruhan Stadium in Malang Regency, East Java, Indonesia." 180.254.165.250 ( talk) 14:08, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
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Please change the opening sentence from "On October 1 2022" to "On 1 October 2022". Thank you. 180.254.165.250 ( talk) 12:25, 11 October 2022 (UTC)