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I request the senior Wikipedia Editors to look into this. 2409:4040:E86:51A4:0:0:E489:5008 ( talk) 13:11, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
An Update into the Bilge spammed by this agenda-driven editor, the banal content propagated by this Editor has been directly copy-pasted from this Agri-Koli caste alliance chauvinist Facebook page where their assembled IT Cells are trained to vandalise Maratha pages systemically with the prepared sources:
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It is a sincere request to the gullible Admins who are ignorant of Indian caste propaganda politics, to become more aware and ensure they do not spread misinformation. 2409:4040:E98:1115:0:0:E489:A0A ( talk) 07:51, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
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The article makes it sound as if only the European traders regarded Kanhoji Angre as a pirate. But was the Maratha Navy considered as a legitimate naval power, or merely a collection of pirates, by the Mughal government that had heretofore ruled most of India? The article only makes the briefest reference to Kanhoji Angre's conflict with the Mughal Emperor Aurangzeb, and doesn't really make clear whether this was a battle of two independent nations or a revolt against the Mughals' authority. Pirate Dan ( talk) 20:05, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
It is strange page edit has been protected removing comments about being termed pirate as legal or not. Natives right to own the place they have been living for centuries and govern the sea is fundamental. Before codification of law, it was not possible to get justice against an act of aggression and might was seen as the right way. In such a context, labelling pirate is illegal. Would the editor who has put a protection allow outsider to take possession of his items in the house? It is clear way of misuse of the rights by the editor to lock the page from editing. Herewith the editor who has removed the word illegal is requested to restore the edits done by me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Igurusachin ( talk • contribs) 16:19, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
This whole article is very dubious. It wants to present him as a major naval figure, but if you look at the list of victories, they are all minor skirmishes by the standards of the European navies of the day. His biggest victory was against a force led by a commander. A commander in the Royal Navy was not a very important person at all. He usually commanded only a single small ship, and he ranked below a post captain, who ranked below three grades of admiral. We are told that the force consisted of four men of war with six thousand soldiers, but this gives rise to further doubts. Man of war is a very vague term. What were these ships? Armed merchantmen, cutters, sloops, frigates, ships-of-the-line? Something towards the beginning of the list is more likely. And six thousand soldiers? Not likely, as even a first rate only had a crew of eight hundred, and most of them were sailors, not soldiers. Thus "six thousand soldiers" is probably a wildly inaccurate number, taken from an exaggerated source, and repeated uncritically. Greg Grahame ( talk) 21:46, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Kanhoji Angre's tomb is in Alibag and not in Chaul. Alibag is my native place and i have seen it for years. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dabholkar.gauri ( talk • contribs) 03:37, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
Kanhoji Angre an Indian admiral of the Maratha Navy. Vyom Bhosle ( talk) 01:37, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
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To the IPs who are repeatedly adding Kanhoji Angre: please find a WP:HISTRS-compliant source for this claim. The source should preferably be an author whose area of expertise is Maratha / Koli / Indian history. Also, castecruft doesn't belong in the lead, unless it was an important part of the person's identity. utcursch | talk 19:30, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
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Labelling Kanhoji as pirate is an incorrect view and it needs to be emphasised rather than propagated. A search on Kanhoji on google shows immediately that he was a pirate. Since this then point of view and not shared by "majority" of people alive today, it needs to be reflected. Basis of using majority is simple, rather 100% of the people today believe in codified law, seen differently do not believe in might is right philosophy. Thus terming him a pirate is not correct and I would like my changes restored with immediate effect. These have been edited out.16:38, 27 March 2019 (UTC) Igurusachin ( talk)
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Pirate needs to be changed to : Maratha Navy Officer
https://indianculture.gov.in/node/2790245
Please refer to the post and information of Kanhoji Maharaj. The info should not be taken from British POV, it should be taken from Indians as he was an Indian and Maratha Navy officer 103.51.75.63 ( talk) 07:56, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
Please note there are concerted efforts to white-wash this page. See this news article. Thanks. Kiran_891 ( TALK) 18:21, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
Angre ji was an admiral in the Navy. It was his duty to protect his nation and the sea from colonial looters, plunderers and thieves who came as traders and looted Hindustan. To say that colonial ship were innocent victims and Angre was looting them is like saying you go to someone's house and rob and the when you are caught you call the house owner a thief for taking back from what is theirs in the first place. You guys have funny way of giving narratives. 103.235.122.123 ( talk) 08:42, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
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2402:3A80:1B3A:56C8:80FE:1B92:1CF6:DFD5 ( talk) 09:54, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
Kanhoji Angre was Indian Navy commander in Maratha Empire led by Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj. He was not a pirate.
There is not much on the types of boats used by Kanhoji in his work. Where were these boats built, their designs etc. Also there should be more information on the staff he employed. Also how far away from the shore did could his boats go, i.e. were they deep sea vessels? Lot of practical information missing. Thanks. Jonathansammy ( talk) 19:24, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
Is it important to speculate too much on the origins of the Angre family? How does it help to understand Kanhoji's achievements? Thanks. Jonathansammy ( talk) 19:55, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
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Kanhoji angre was not a pirate actually he is most remarkable Admiral of Maratha Empire.he Never attack any foreign ship's for money or gold. He just defended Indian cost and forts of Maratha Empire as he appointed for the same from Maratha king. 2401:4900:5602:E984:D1D8:2392:911:EAB0 ( talk) 22:59, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
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This user: /info/en/?search=Special:Contributions/MrLukeMsEmily
Has been vandalizing major longstanding Maratha-figure pages using multiple accounts to present an overwhelming Sub-Altern narrative.
Kanhoji Angre page was brutally subjected to false propaganda by using a synthesis of Surendranath Sen's source and various other modern Sub-Altern books. A modern acclaimed Scholar Rene Barendse was deleted without for the sake of another scholar which supports this vandal agenda-driven obfuscation spree.
Current User ID of this Vandal Editor is: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/?title=User:LukeEmily&action=view
I request the senior Wikipedia Editors to look into this. 2409:4040:E86:51A4:0:0:E489:5008 ( talk) 13:11, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
An Update into the Bilge spammed by this agenda-driven editor, the banal content propagated by this Editor has been directly copy-pasted from this Agri-Koli caste alliance chauvinist Facebook page where their assembled IT Cells are trained to vandalise Maratha pages systemically with the prepared sources:
https://www.facebook.com/HinduMarathaAgri/posts/318056121612093
It is a sincere request to the gullible Admins who are ignorant of Indian caste propaganda politics, to become more aware and ensure they do not spread misinformation. 2409:4040:E98:1115:0:0:E489:A0A ( talk) 07:51, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 18:24, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
The article makes it sound as if only the European traders regarded Kanhoji Angre as a pirate. But was the Maratha Navy considered as a legitimate naval power, or merely a collection of pirates, by the Mughal government that had heretofore ruled most of India? The article only makes the briefest reference to Kanhoji Angre's conflict with the Mughal Emperor Aurangzeb, and doesn't really make clear whether this was a battle of two independent nations or a revolt against the Mughals' authority. Pirate Dan ( talk) 20:05, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
It is strange page edit has been protected removing comments about being termed pirate as legal or not. Natives right to own the place they have been living for centuries and govern the sea is fundamental. Before codification of law, it was not possible to get justice against an act of aggression and might was seen as the right way. In such a context, labelling pirate is illegal. Would the editor who has put a protection allow outsider to take possession of his items in the house? It is clear way of misuse of the rights by the editor to lock the page from editing. Herewith the editor who has removed the word illegal is requested to restore the edits done by me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Igurusachin ( talk • contribs) 16:19, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
This whole article is very dubious. It wants to present him as a major naval figure, but if you look at the list of victories, they are all minor skirmishes by the standards of the European navies of the day. His biggest victory was against a force led by a commander. A commander in the Royal Navy was not a very important person at all. He usually commanded only a single small ship, and he ranked below a post captain, who ranked below three grades of admiral. We are told that the force consisted of four men of war with six thousand soldiers, but this gives rise to further doubts. Man of war is a very vague term. What were these ships? Armed merchantmen, cutters, sloops, frigates, ships-of-the-line? Something towards the beginning of the list is more likely. And six thousand soldiers? Not likely, as even a first rate only had a crew of eight hundred, and most of them were sailors, not soldiers. Thus "six thousand soldiers" is probably a wildly inaccurate number, taken from an exaggerated source, and repeated uncritically. Greg Grahame ( talk) 21:46, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Kanhoji Angre's tomb is in Alibag and not in Chaul. Alibag is my native place and i have seen it for years. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dabholkar.gauri ( talk • contribs) 03:37, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
Kanhoji Angre an Indian admiral of the Maratha Navy. Vyom Bhosle ( talk) 01:37, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
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Labelling Kanhoji as pirate is an incorrect view and it needs to be emphasised rather than propagated. A search on Kanhoji on google shows immediately that he was a pirate. Since this then point of view and not shared by "majority" of people alive today, it needs to be reflected. Basis of using majority is simple, rather 100% of the people today believe in codified law, seen differently do not believe in might is right philosophy. Thus terming him a pirate is not correct and I would like my changes restored with immediate effect. These have been edited out.16:38, 27 March 2019 (UTC) Igurusachin ( talk)
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Pirate needs to be changed to : Maratha Navy Officer
https://indianculture.gov.in/node/2790245
Please refer to the post and information of Kanhoji Maharaj. The info should not be taken from British POV, it should be taken from Indians as he was an Indian and Maratha Navy officer 103.51.75.63 ( talk) 07:56, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
Please note there are concerted efforts to white-wash this page. See this news article. Thanks. Kiran_891 ( TALK) 18:21, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
Angre ji was an admiral in the Navy. It was his duty to protect his nation and the sea from colonial looters, plunderers and thieves who came as traders and looted Hindustan. To say that colonial ship were innocent victims and Angre was looting them is like saying you go to someone's house and rob and the when you are caught you call the house owner a thief for taking back from what is theirs in the first place. You guys have funny way of giving narratives. 103.235.122.123 ( talk) 08:42, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
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2402:3A80:1B3A:56C8:80FE:1B92:1CF6:DFD5 ( talk) 09:54, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
Kanhoji Angre was Indian Navy commander in Maratha Empire led by Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj. He was not a pirate.
There is not much on the types of boats used by Kanhoji in his work. Where were these boats built, their designs etc. Also there should be more information on the staff he employed. Also how far away from the shore did could his boats go, i.e. were they deep sea vessels? Lot of practical information missing. Thanks. Jonathansammy ( talk) 19:24, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
Is it important to speculate too much on the origins of the Angre family? How does it help to understand Kanhoji's achievements? Thanks. Jonathansammy ( talk) 19:55, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
References
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Kanhoji angre was not a pirate actually he is most remarkable Admiral of Maratha Empire.he Never attack any foreign ship's for money or gold. He just defended Indian cost and forts of Maratha Empire as he appointed for the same from Maratha king. 2401:4900:5602:E984:D1D8:2392:911:EAB0 ( talk) 22:59, 11 October 2022 (UTC)