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What happend in 1975 to suddenly make it the tallest peak in India? srs 21:42, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
Sikkim was an Indian protectorate until 1975, when it was annexed by India after a referendum in which the Sikkimese voted to fully join the Indian union. Sikkim was a British Indian protectorate before India became independent. It was not fully independent in 1975 as stated above. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.126.199.122 ( talk) 20:09, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
The mountain needs to be spelled properly first, Kanchenjunga (notice there isn't a G ) seems to be universally disliked by those that have been there or live there. Old references seem to suggest that Kangchenjunga is closer and used more widley, even if there is dispute by the indigenous population(s), one recent highly respected reference is http://www.hindu.com/mag/2005/02/20/stories/2005022000500200.htm. "Kanchenjunga" is, from what I'm told by the experienced and so forth, is an American spelling. One of the reasons I know some of this is that I had misspelled it in a video concerning the first ascent, and got into hot water by some of the team members that did its first ascent in 1955 and went on too write definitive books on the mountain. ( Gowron 19:54, 29 May 2006 (UTC))
I vote wih ViewFinder. My father John Angelo Jackson was on the original first ascent of "Kangchenjunga" in 1955 and wrote two books on the subject. He spoke the language and understood their meaning by the locals. My father also wrote for the "Himalayan Journal" many times and always used "Kangchenjunga", but more importantly recently published a new book on 50 plus years in the Himalayas and the it was confirmed by Indus publishing to be "Kangchenjunga". Unfortunately maps are not consistent, for one reason of another, here is a segment of a large but much earlier map used to mark out the 300 mile trek in 1954 that my father did. Kangchenjunga, and so definitive as well then?.
Unfortunately "The Hindu" spelled it WRONG ONCE in FIFTEEN! spellings (so one of the points above is lost), and sadly the paragraph contained two spellings which concerned my father. I know all of the 1st Kangchenjunga expeditioners of 1955 (and many others), who have also written on the subject with a similar take on the matter. If a definitive proof required I will personally write to Harish Kapadia on behalf of Wikipedia and get a document proving it one way or another, would that suffice? ( Gowron 19:14, 30 May 2006 (UTC))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I have been in touch with
Harish Kapadia and it is official and from an expert. Kan(G)chenjunga is the correct spelling KANCHENJUNGA is a misspelling and means nothing to the people that live there. What follows bellow is part of a communication with the renowned Indian author, publisher and mountaineer.
"KANGCHENJUNGA -- is the correct spelling with " G " in there. Kang means snow and it must be there, in the Five Treasures of Snows. Even some recent Survey of India maps too spells it wrongly but many years ago the correct spelling with " G " was established and followed by all scholarly publications. For full details kindly see HIMALAYAN JOURNAL
Vol. 2 p. 131 and vol. 3 p. 152. also see vol. 3, p.152" Harish Kapadia
Please remove KANCHENJUNGA as it is incorrect ( Gowron 17:29, 15 June 2006 (UTC))
Maybe not removed from being labelled as incorrectly spelled, but you have to take into account that the people that live in these countries do take exception to our misuse and rather arrogant of us to blithely carry on the slang, please read the above "proof" (for want of a better word) as there are good reason why it must be spelled correctly. Too what writtings other than Ransome are you refering you maybe right of course, however a quick look at Aleister Crowley's work of 1905 (chapters 51 to 53) inclusive spell the mountain correctly (Kangchenjunga) with just one exception (out of 20 occurences) and you could call that a typo. Would you agree that if we started to spell Mount Washington Mount Washingtin is wrong, that would be heresy and you would be right to ask that we spell it correctly. By all means state that different spelling exist in the West, but also state that they are incorrect. ( Gowron 07:41, 16 June 2006 (UTC))
"fair comment" regarding the doubtful sentence, would be a very interesting side story o find out why, I guess thats why Wikipedia is so good. I understand that you feel deffensive regarding this issue, but as stated above from Harish Kapadia (an authority on the subject) the Survey of India have got it wrong and Harish Kapadia tells us why. I've gone to great lengths to get this right. It is a disservice to say that we in the West have other spellings, we get it wrong are we not big enough to correct ourselves? There is another missconception regarding the word HIMALAYA it should never have an S at the end and yet we in the West keep doing it to support our own grammer, it does not make it right. ( Gowron 10:15, 16 June 2006 (UTC))
Many apologies for that I'll revert to your comments, I was a little confused by your paragraph, I could not sort out wheather Ransome used KANCHENJUNGA or KANGCHENJUNGA and thought you were refering the the former spelling. I had thought you mean't the KANCHENJUNGA was the most widely used in the 1930, which would have been incorrect. Again apologies if I was incorrect in my assumption. ( Gowron 11:51, 16 June 2006 (UTC))
I am not sure if you understand. Ransome did use "Kanchenjunga" in his books but he didn't use it because he wanted to invent a new spelling of the name. He used it because that was the way that he saw the name spelled in the news reports of the 1930 German expeditions. In 1930, it was the most commonly used spelling in England where Ransome was living. It doesn't make it the right spelling, it is merely the spelling that was most commonly used. Check any newspapers of the time if you don't believe me. Dabbler 12:16, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
Thayou for clarifying your position, we will have to differ on some points. The book by Aleister Crowley of 1905 and the Swiss Expedition, spell it Kangchenjunga, that would have been the prevailing book at the time on the subject, and as a result is not possible to state that "Kanchenjunga" "was the most widely used in 1930" the comment has little meaning without proof. You would think that an author would have been more rigorous than to take a spelling from a newspaper and gone to the library. I also think its to big step to go from "in Newspapers" to "in English" for the reasons just given. ( Gowron 12:36, 16 June 2006 (UTC))
Dear God! I thought we, Ransome nerds were nit pickers and compulsive obsessives but mountain nerds like 80.176.235.247 seem far worse! Ransome wrote correct and contemporary English and he didn't write fairy stories, he wrote children's fiction and he didn't invent Kanchenjunga or its misspelling. Kangchenjunga is a lot more well known than Ulugh Muztagh (wherever the hell that is). So the name is far more widely used by many more people than one now quite obscure children's writer. Of course I know that Google is not a gospel method of telling what is true or false. I used it to point out that the "incorrect" version was more widespread than the "correct". Secondly an older "fact" is more likely to have propagated through Google than a newer one (as demonstrated by the Ulugh Muztagh height example) so its more widespread use indicates that it was more common in the past and may be being supplanted by newer sources. If you Google something that is in the process of changing in English you will receive a lot of hits for the old name as well as the new. I am not arguing that Kanchenjunga is a better name I was just trying to point out that it was an acceptable usage widely used in the past and still not extinct today. Dabbler 11:22, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
I think this article needs more info about plantlife, climate, and animal life.
Please stop adding these unsourced claims that the Kangchenjunga main peak is wholly in India. It is on the border. It is the 8586m peak shown on official Nepalese mapping. Viewfinder 06:20, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Following more POV editing I transferred the above link into the main article's Notes section. I know it includes a link to my site but there seems to be no other way. If anyone can replace it with a better link then please do so. Viewfinder 05:03, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
The opening paragraph has this in it "Kangchenjunga is written and pronounced as "Kanchanjunga" in Nepal which means "pure peak (of mountain)" and Kangchenjunga is also one of the best conservation areas in Nepal which is home to the Red Panda and other snow animals, birds and plants. India's side of Kangchenjunga also has a protected park area."
Question: If the "Kangchenjunga Conservation Area" (its written name) resides in Nepal why is it spelled "Kangchenjunga"?, I'm curious as I know one or two of the people who have worked on it. The URL ( http://www.wwfnepal.org/images/Annua003.pdf) is the Annual report from Nepal on the concervation area and spells it consistently "Kangchenjunga"?
Another reference to this curio is that of Tenzing Norgay (born Tsa-chu (Nepal) or possibly Moyey (Tibet) and raised in Thami in (Nepal)) of Everest fame, in his book "Man of Everest" he uses the spelling "Kangchenjunga" he also gives the full (but unused) title of "Kang-chen-dzod-nga" which also has been explained already in the text? Tenzing Norgay goes on to translate and it is very similar to that given already "The Great Snow with Five Treasures"?
Maybe some other references from Nepal would be useful as proof, then at least the article should say that both forms are used in Nepal. OR have I not understood the grammar of the sentence properly, which very possible, if so sorry. Please be assured that this query is in no way correcting anybody, but something is not quite right here. ( Gowron 09:48, 22 February 2007 (UTC)_
As always, a map would be nice. -- Writtenonsand 23:19, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
(massive indent): Very nice. How about larger scans in wikicommons. If you're going to bother, can you put a 4000 wide image in there? Is there a downside? Ratagonia ( talk) 05:54, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
The items in the Climbing History section variously used the past and the present tense ('x was/is the first ...'), sometimes even switching within an item. I have standardised on the past tense as that was the majority (and in my opinion is the correct way to describe events that happened in the past). PhilUK ( talk) 17:02, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Has anyone seen an explanation from the 1980 Japanese team as to why they did not respect the untrodden sanctity of the actual summit? PhilUK ( talk) 17:05, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Nice Pic, 94.195.201.12 Could you possibly identify the direction of view, or more specifically, the face of the mountain show? Thanks. Ratagonia ( talk) 01:28, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure, that this link is incorrect. It does not point to the alpinist Aleister Crowley. Am I right? -- 18.197.1.121 ( talk) 03:16, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
In Mossdale and Other Caving and Climbing Miscellania by Robert D. Leakey, due for publication in 2011, there is an account and photographs of an unofficial expedition to the summit by a group of soldiers during World War 2. --- When the book is published, this can perhaps be included. Ratagonia ( talk) 01:26, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
Since the article says that parties that climb Kanchenjunga stop short of the summit, is it the world's highest un-summited peak and thus a candidate for "highest unclimbed peak" under one interpretation of being unclimbed? And if so, is that notable enough to include in the article? Av9 ( talk) 19:10, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
Having two thumbnailed maps (in addition to the infobox map) seems like overkill. I have an no opinion of which one we keep --- which one can I move to commons? —
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It says the people "worship" this mountain ? Do they really ? The fact that people venerate some place , or consider it to be sacred , because it is the "abode of the gods" or some other reason, does not mean that they actually worship the mountain. Eregli bob ( talk) 02:10, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
I have deleted this claim, despite an academic document being cited in favour of it. I cannot find any evidence from the document that it does actually source this claim to the Geologic Survey of India. But what the document, which is on the general subject of remote sensing, does do is cite "topographic information from the void-free and hydrologically-sound Shuttle Radar Topography Mission ( SRTM) DEM, provided by CGIAR [58]". That is stuff and nonsense. I am familiar with both SRTM and CGIAR. CGIAR's local hydrologic accuracy is adequate, but here SRTM is not its main local source. In area of very high relief SRTM is neither void free nor hydrologically sound, and Kangchenjunga is no exception. I am especially familiar with CGIAR's additional source here for the simple reason that my site supplied it and CGIAR have acknowledged this! This is an illustration of the pitfalls of regarding academic papers and other "reliable sources", which are often out of date or cite old data, as gospel in preference to more recent studies. Viewfinder ( talk) 11:53, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
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Sorry, I messed up when I tried to undo this move from "Kangchenjunga" to "Kangchanjanga". I moved it to "Kangchenjanga", having failed to notice that two letters were changed.
The correct, commonname seems to be "Kangchenjunga" (ca. 507,000 Google hits). Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 14:33, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
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I'm away from my library but at least Messner is mentioned. His main book and its English translation (All 8 KM Peaks) should at least be cited in the Further Reading section. If not, I'll get to it when I get home. 140.221.190.221 ( talk) 15:07, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
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What happend in 1975 to suddenly make it the tallest peak in India? srs 21:42, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
Sikkim was an Indian protectorate until 1975, when it was annexed by India after a referendum in which the Sikkimese voted to fully join the Indian union. Sikkim was a British Indian protectorate before India became independent. It was not fully independent in 1975 as stated above. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.126.199.122 ( talk) 20:09, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
The mountain needs to be spelled properly first, Kanchenjunga (notice there isn't a G ) seems to be universally disliked by those that have been there or live there. Old references seem to suggest that Kangchenjunga is closer and used more widley, even if there is dispute by the indigenous population(s), one recent highly respected reference is http://www.hindu.com/mag/2005/02/20/stories/2005022000500200.htm. "Kanchenjunga" is, from what I'm told by the experienced and so forth, is an American spelling. One of the reasons I know some of this is that I had misspelled it in a video concerning the first ascent, and got into hot water by some of the team members that did its first ascent in 1955 and went on too write definitive books on the mountain. ( Gowron 19:54, 29 May 2006 (UTC))
I vote wih ViewFinder. My father John Angelo Jackson was on the original first ascent of "Kangchenjunga" in 1955 and wrote two books on the subject. He spoke the language and understood their meaning by the locals. My father also wrote for the "Himalayan Journal" many times and always used "Kangchenjunga", but more importantly recently published a new book on 50 plus years in the Himalayas and the it was confirmed by Indus publishing to be "Kangchenjunga". Unfortunately maps are not consistent, for one reason of another, here is a segment of a large but much earlier map used to mark out the 300 mile trek in 1954 that my father did. Kangchenjunga, and so definitive as well then?.
Unfortunately "The Hindu" spelled it WRONG ONCE in FIFTEEN! spellings (so one of the points above is lost), and sadly the paragraph contained two spellings which concerned my father. I know all of the 1st Kangchenjunga expeditioners of 1955 (and many others), who have also written on the subject with a similar take on the matter. If a definitive proof required I will personally write to Harish Kapadia on behalf of Wikipedia and get a document proving it one way or another, would that suffice? ( Gowron 19:14, 30 May 2006 (UTC))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I have been in touch with
Harish Kapadia and it is official and from an expert. Kan(G)chenjunga is the correct spelling KANCHENJUNGA is a misspelling and means nothing to the people that live there. What follows bellow is part of a communication with the renowned Indian author, publisher and mountaineer.
"KANGCHENJUNGA -- is the correct spelling with " G " in there. Kang means snow and it must be there, in the Five Treasures of Snows. Even some recent Survey of India maps too spells it wrongly but many years ago the correct spelling with " G " was established and followed by all scholarly publications. For full details kindly see HIMALAYAN JOURNAL
Vol. 2 p. 131 and vol. 3 p. 152. also see vol. 3, p.152" Harish Kapadia
Please remove KANCHENJUNGA as it is incorrect ( Gowron 17:29, 15 June 2006 (UTC))
Maybe not removed from being labelled as incorrectly spelled, but you have to take into account that the people that live in these countries do take exception to our misuse and rather arrogant of us to blithely carry on the slang, please read the above "proof" (for want of a better word) as there are good reason why it must be spelled correctly. Too what writtings other than Ransome are you refering you maybe right of course, however a quick look at Aleister Crowley's work of 1905 (chapters 51 to 53) inclusive spell the mountain correctly (Kangchenjunga) with just one exception (out of 20 occurences) and you could call that a typo. Would you agree that if we started to spell Mount Washington Mount Washingtin is wrong, that would be heresy and you would be right to ask that we spell it correctly. By all means state that different spelling exist in the West, but also state that they are incorrect. ( Gowron 07:41, 16 June 2006 (UTC))
"fair comment" regarding the doubtful sentence, would be a very interesting side story o find out why, I guess thats why Wikipedia is so good. I understand that you feel deffensive regarding this issue, but as stated above from Harish Kapadia (an authority on the subject) the Survey of India have got it wrong and Harish Kapadia tells us why. I've gone to great lengths to get this right. It is a disservice to say that we in the West have other spellings, we get it wrong are we not big enough to correct ourselves? There is another missconception regarding the word HIMALAYA it should never have an S at the end and yet we in the West keep doing it to support our own grammer, it does not make it right. ( Gowron 10:15, 16 June 2006 (UTC))
Many apologies for that I'll revert to your comments, I was a little confused by your paragraph, I could not sort out wheather Ransome used KANCHENJUNGA or KANGCHENJUNGA and thought you were refering the the former spelling. I had thought you mean't the KANCHENJUNGA was the most widely used in the 1930, which would have been incorrect. Again apologies if I was incorrect in my assumption. ( Gowron 11:51, 16 June 2006 (UTC))
I am not sure if you understand. Ransome did use "Kanchenjunga" in his books but he didn't use it because he wanted to invent a new spelling of the name. He used it because that was the way that he saw the name spelled in the news reports of the 1930 German expeditions. In 1930, it was the most commonly used spelling in England where Ransome was living. It doesn't make it the right spelling, it is merely the spelling that was most commonly used. Check any newspapers of the time if you don't believe me. Dabbler 12:16, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
Thayou for clarifying your position, we will have to differ on some points. The book by Aleister Crowley of 1905 and the Swiss Expedition, spell it Kangchenjunga, that would have been the prevailing book at the time on the subject, and as a result is not possible to state that "Kanchenjunga" "was the most widely used in 1930" the comment has little meaning without proof. You would think that an author would have been more rigorous than to take a spelling from a newspaper and gone to the library. I also think its to big step to go from "in Newspapers" to "in English" for the reasons just given. ( Gowron 12:36, 16 June 2006 (UTC))
Dear God! I thought we, Ransome nerds were nit pickers and compulsive obsessives but mountain nerds like 80.176.235.247 seem far worse! Ransome wrote correct and contemporary English and he didn't write fairy stories, he wrote children's fiction and he didn't invent Kanchenjunga or its misspelling. Kangchenjunga is a lot more well known than Ulugh Muztagh (wherever the hell that is). So the name is far more widely used by many more people than one now quite obscure children's writer. Of course I know that Google is not a gospel method of telling what is true or false. I used it to point out that the "incorrect" version was more widespread than the "correct". Secondly an older "fact" is more likely to have propagated through Google than a newer one (as demonstrated by the Ulugh Muztagh height example) so its more widespread use indicates that it was more common in the past and may be being supplanted by newer sources. If you Google something that is in the process of changing in English you will receive a lot of hits for the old name as well as the new. I am not arguing that Kanchenjunga is a better name I was just trying to point out that it was an acceptable usage widely used in the past and still not extinct today. Dabbler 11:22, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
I think this article needs more info about plantlife, climate, and animal life.
Please stop adding these unsourced claims that the Kangchenjunga main peak is wholly in India. It is on the border. It is the 8586m peak shown on official Nepalese mapping. Viewfinder 06:20, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Following more POV editing I transferred the above link into the main article's Notes section. I know it includes a link to my site but there seems to be no other way. If anyone can replace it with a better link then please do so. Viewfinder 05:03, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
The opening paragraph has this in it "Kangchenjunga is written and pronounced as "Kanchanjunga" in Nepal which means "pure peak (of mountain)" and Kangchenjunga is also one of the best conservation areas in Nepal which is home to the Red Panda and other snow animals, birds and plants. India's side of Kangchenjunga also has a protected park area."
Question: If the "Kangchenjunga Conservation Area" (its written name) resides in Nepal why is it spelled "Kangchenjunga"?, I'm curious as I know one or two of the people who have worked on it. The URL ( http://www.wwfnepal.org/images/Annua003.pdf) is the Annual report from Nepal on the concervation area and spells it consistently "Kangchenjunga"?
Another reference to this curio is that of Tenzing Norgay (born Tsa-chu (Nepal) or possibly Moyey (Tibet) and raised in Thami in (Nepal)) of Everest fame, in his book "Man of Everest" he uses the spelling "Kangchenjunga" he also gives the full (but unused) title of "Kang-chen-dzod-nga" which also has been explained already in the text? Tenzing Norgay goes on to translate and it is very similar to that given already "The Great Snow with Five Treasures"?
Maybe some other references from Nepal would be useful as proof, then at least the article should say that both forms are used in Nepal. OR have I not understood the grammar of the sentence properly, which very possible, if so sorry. Please be assured that this query is in no way correcting anybody, but something is not quite right here. ( Gowron 09:48, 22 February 2007 (UTC)_
As always, a map would be nice. -- Writtenonsand 23:19, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
(massive indent): Very nice. How about larger scans in wikicommons. If you're going to bother, can you put a 4000 wide image in there? Is there a downside? Ratagonia ( talk) 05:54, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
The items in the Climbing History section variously used the past and the present tense ('x was/is the first ...'), sometimes even switching within an item. I have standardised on the past tense as that was the majority (and in my opinion is the correct way to describe events that happened in the past). PhilUK ( talk) 17:02, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Has anyone seen an explanation from the 1980 Japanese team as to why they did not respect the untrodden sanctity of the actual summit? PhilUK ( talk) 17:05, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Nice Pic, 94.195.201.12 Could you possibly identify the direction of view, or more specifically, the face of the mountain show? Thanks. Ratagonia ( talk) 01:28, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure, that this link is incorrect. It does not point to the alpinist Aleister Crowley. Am I right? -- 18.197.1.121 ( talk) 03:16, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
In Mossdale and Other Caving and Climbing Miscellania by Robert D. Leakey, due for publication in 2011, there is an account and photographs of an unofficial expedition to the summit by a group of soldiers during World War 2. --- When the book is published, this can perhaps be included. Ratagonia ( talk) 01:26, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
Since the article says that parties that climb Kanchenjunga stop short of the summit, is it the world's highest un-summited peak and thus a candidate for "highest unclimbed peak" under one interpretation of being unclimbed? And if so, is that notable enough to include in the article? Av9 ( talk) 19:10, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
Having two thumbnailed maps (in addition to the infobox map) seems like overkill. I have an no opinion of which one we keep --- which one can I move to commons? —
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It says the people "worship" this mountain ? Do they really ? The fact that people venerate some place , or consider it to be sacred , because it is the "abode of the gods" or some other reason, does not mean that they actually worship the mountain. Eregli bob ( talk) 02:10, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
I have deleted this claim, despite an academic document being cited in favour of it. I cannot find any evidence from the document that it does actually source this claim to the Geologic Survey of India. But what the document, which is on the general subject of remote sensing, does do is cite "topographic information from the void-free and hydrologically-sound Shuttle Radar Topography Mission ( SRTM) DEM, provided by CGIAR [58]". That is stuff and nonsense. I am familiar with both SRTM and CGIAR. CGIAR's local hydrologic accuracy is adequate, but here SRTM is not its main local source. In area of very high relief SRTM is neither void free nor hydrologically sound, and Kangchenjunga is no exception. I am especially familiar with CGIAR's additional source here for the simple reason that my site supplied it and CGIAR have acknowledged this! This is an illustration of the pitfalls of regarding academic papers and other "reliable sources", which are often out of date or cite old data, as gospel in preference to more recent studies. Viewfinder ( talk) 11:53, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
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Sorry, I messed up when I tried to undo this move from "Kangchenjunga" to "Kangchanjanga". I moved it to "Kangchenjanga", having failed to notice that two letters were changed.
The correct, commonname seems to be "Kangchenjunga" (ca. 507,000 Google hits). Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 14:33, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
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Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 23:15, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
I'm away from my library but at least Messner is mentioned. His main book and its English translation (All 8 KM Peaks) should at least be cited in the Further Reading section. If not, I'll get to it when I get home. 140.221.190.221 ( talk) 15:07, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
Fhghhh 103.252.166.54 ( talk) 15:30, 27 January 2022 (UTC)