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Regarding the pronunciation added by Wahkeenah (kah-NAH-Wah): It seems more often to be pronounced something like kuh-NAW-uh, with the third syllable hardly pronounced if at all, and the W silent. Any thoughts? Malepheasant 03:36, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
Needs more. Kanawha salt production dominated this area of the US in the 19th c. — LlywelynII 04:23, 10 October 2013 (UTC) Reference "Ruffner" the family name of some of the earliest white (Dutch) settlers. Kanawha salt mines, "Kanawha Salines" 2606:A000:4B47:F700:3D68:19AF:3A8B:3C76 ( talk) 15:19, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
Currently the article says the name Kanawha "derives from the region's Iroquoian dialects meaning "water way" or "canoe way" implying the metaphor, "transport way", in the local language." There's a footnote with a lot of text, but it seems rather speculative and original researchy. There's no link to a source explicitly saying the river's name comes from Iroquoian words as far as I can see. But William Bright's book Native American Placenames in the United States, which is very authoritative on the topic, says the name referrs to the Algonquian Conoy people, [1]. I would just change the article but someone put effort into the current footnote so I am posting here instead, in case anyone wants to defend it or clarify things. Pfly ( talk) 21:33, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
The main content of the article is three successive lists of names: tributaries, alternate names and cities/towns. All of these could comfortably be omitted or moved into a footnote until the article has proper content, i.e. narrative text. In particular, for names of towns, what are the inclusion/exclusion criteria? For a river like the Ohio, there are hundreds to maybe a thousand towns along the river. The encyclopedia is not WP:indiscriminate. If we enforce a modest restriction that towns along the river be notable for something, at least population, 12,000 persons is still a small town, not likely to be known outside its local county. About 90% of the list of towns would be obviated by this criteria alone. Not every town larger than 12,000 persons is notable, in fact, few of them are unless there is some historic, cultural, economic or other notable character to it. I'm going to trim the list accordingly. That leaves two names, the capital Charleston and its subsidiary South Charleston. If other names are WP:notable, then describe in detail, what they're notable for, so we build the article text. Sbalfour ( talk) 16:35, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
The text says: "The first white person to travel through Virginia all the way to the Ohio River (other than as a prisoner of the Indians) was Matthew Arbuckle, Sr., who traversed the length of the Kanawha River valley arriving at (what would later be called) Point Pleasant around 1764." Captain Abraham Woods expeditions between 1654 and 1664 preceded these by more a century. Certainly, the Kanawha River must have been well known by the late-18th century. I think this statement is misleading at best, and unsourced. The reference to prisoner of the indians can't just be dropped like that - an important name lurks there. And who was Captain Hanson? The first permanent settlement on the river was Kelly's Creek at the mouth of that creek on the river in 1774, and it wasn't by Captain Hanson. Sbalfour ( talk) 17:16, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
The lead actually reads rather decently. But it's supposed to be a summary - where in the text is anything about coal and gas described? Given the rather significant paragraph in the lead, I'd expect a substantial section devoted to the topic. I'm afraid that paragraph should move to paragraph under the History section, or into its own section in the text, and the lead should summarize it in one sentence. Sbalfour ( talk) 17:23, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
I see there is no mention of Adena culture in the article. Certainly was significant to history of the river. See for example Criel Mound and Kanawha Valley Mounds. -- David Tornheim ( talk) 17:47, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
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Regarding the pronunciation added by Wahkeenah (kah-NAH-Wah): It seems more often to be pronounced something like kuh-NAW-uh, with the third syllable hardly pronounced if at all, and the W silent. Any thoughts? Malepheasant 03:36, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
Needs more. Kanawha salt production dominated this area of the US in the 19th c. — LlywelynII 04:23, 10 October 2013 (UTC) Reference "Ruffner" the family name of some of the earliest white (Dutch) settlers. Kanawha salt mines, "Kanawha Salines" 2606:A000:4B47:F700:3D68:19AF:3A8B:3C76 ( talk) 15:19, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
Currently the article says the name Kanawha "derives from the region's Iroquoian dialects meaning "water way" or "canoe way" implying the metaphor, "transport way", in the local language." There's a footnote with a lot of text, but it seems rather speculative and original researchy. There's no link to a source explicitly saying the river's name comes from Iroquoian words as far as I can see. But William Bright's book Native American Placenames in the United States, which is very authoritative on the topic, says the name referrs to the Algonquian Conoy people, [1]. I would just change the article but someone put effort into the current footnote so I am posting here instead, in case anyone wants to defend it or clarify things. Pfly ( talk) 21:33, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
The main content of the article is three successive lists of names: tributaries, alternate names and cities/towns. All of these could comfortably be omitted or moved into a footnote until the article has proper content, i.e. narrative text. In particular, for names of towns, what are the inclusion/exclusion criteria? For a river like the Ohio, there are hundreds to maybe a thousand towns along the river. The encyclopedia is not WP:indiscriminate. If we enforce a modest restriction that towns along the river be notable for something, at least population, 12,000 persons is still a small town, not likely to be known outside its local county. About 90% of the list of towns would be obviated by this criteria alone. Not every town larger than 12,000 persons is notable, in fact, few of them are unless there is some historic, cultural, economic or other notable character to it. I'm going to trim the list accordingly. That leaves two names, the capital Charleston and its subsidiary South Charleston. If other names are WP:notable, then describe in detail, what they're notable for, so we build the article text. Sbalfour ( talk) 16:35, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
The text says: "The first white person to travel through Virginia all the way to the Ohio River (other than as a prisoner of the Indians) was Matthew Arbuckle, Sr., who traversed the length of the Kanawha River valley arriving at (what would later be called) Point Pleasant around 1764." Captain Abraham Woods expeditions between 1654 and 1664 preceded these by more a century. Certainly, the Kanawha River must have been well known by the late-18th century. I think this statement is misleading at best, and unsourced. The reference to prisoner of the indians can't just be dropped like that - an important name lurks there. And who was Captain Hanson? The first permanent settlement on the river was Kelly's Creek at the mouth of that creek on the river in 1774, and it wasn't by Captain Hanson. Sbalfour ( talk) 17:16, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
The lead actually reads rather decently. But it's supposed to be a summary - where in the text is anything about coal and gas described? Given the rather significant paragraph in the lead, I'd expect a substantial section devoted to the topic. I'm afraid that paragraph should move to paragraph under the History section, or into its own section in the text, and the lead should summarize it in one sentence. Sbalfour ( talk) 17:23, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
I see there is no mention of Adena culture in the article. Certainly was significant to history of the river. See for example Criel Mound and Kanawha Valley Mounds. -- David Tornheim ( talk) 17:47, 28 June 2019 (UTC)