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The main subject of this stub is Ivan Franko’s poem “Kameniari” and its legacy, not
stonecutters or any
Slavic words for stonecutters, as such. The poem is eponymous of other related things, like Franko’s nickname Kameniar and several organizations and publications.
[1][2] It is a
wp: NOTABLE subject, having a short Ukrainian-language article at
uk: Каменярі (вірш). And remember, articles are generally about their subject, not its name (see
wp: REFERS).
The most common spelling is romanized from Ukrainian with я → ia, not ya. Counting sources according to
wp: SET:
The spellings Kameniari and kameniar also correspond to authoritative and widely used standards: the Ukrainian National system recommended by
WP:UKR, as well as the
ALA-LC romanization (omitting ligatures) which is commonly used in academic and popular-academic literature.
If consensus is against making this about the poem “
Kameniari,” then at least let’s rename to the most common spelling of the Ukrainian word, kameniar. —MichaelZ. 17:39, 11 March 2021 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Ukraine, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Ukraine on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.UkraineWikipedia:WikiProject UkraineTemplate:WikiProject UkraineUkraine articles
The following is a closed discussion of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The main subject of this stub is Ivan Franko’s poem “Kameniari” and its legacy, not
stonecutters or any
Slavic words for stonecutters, as such. The poem is eponymous of other related things, like Franko’s nickname Kameniar and several organizations and publications.
[1][2] It is a
wp: NOTABLE subject, having a short Ukrainian-language article at
uk: Каменярі (вірш). And remember, articles are generally about their subject, not its name (see
wp: REFERS).
The most common spelling is romanized from Ukrainian with я → ia, not ya. Counting sources according to
wp: SET:
The spellings Kameniari and kameniar also correspond to authoritative and widely used standards: the Ukrainian National system recommended by
WP:UKR, as well as the
ALA-LC romanization (omitting ligatures) which is commonly used in academic and popular-academic literature.
If consensus is against making this about the poem “
Kameniari,” then at least let’s rename to the most common spelling of the Ukrainian word, kameniar. —MichaelZ. 17:39, 11 March 2021 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.