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Rick Block's edit (categorization: Category:Tibetan Buddhism is a form of Category:Vajrayana Buddhism) seems a bit strange. Certainly not all Kagyu is from Tibet. And Vajrayana spred as far as Mongolia and Siberia. On the other hand 'Tibet' and 'Buddhism' are inventions of western scholars, and maybe most people in the west use Vajrayana and Tibetan Buddism interchangably. Comments please! Billlion 16:47, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Is it accurate to state, that Karmapa is the head of the Kagyu-school? I think he is the head of the Karma-Kagyü-School of tibetan-buddhism. There are different other Kagyu-lineageholders like the Drikungpa-lamas. I assume that Karmapa is not the head of the Drikung-school. So it is maybe better to give unter Kagyu a general introduction to Kagyu, a schoolform developed by Gampopa, by uniting the yogic and monastic form of tantric buddhism. From Gampopas diciples developed the different Kagyu-schools under wich, the Karma-Kagyu with its head Karmapa is only one of nine. (Drukpa, Drikung, Yelpa, Yoru, Krophu, Karma, Shangpa etc.) Greetings Panchito 9.12.04 10:35 CET
The article does not mention the disputed title of Karmapa and the two contenders. It should at very least mention this and explain both sides of the argument. For basic background on this dispute, which has split the Karma Kagyu school, refer to this article: http://www.newstatesman.com/200405170048
I reverted Nathan Hill's edits as it rather difficult to revert just his obscurification of tibetan words. Nathan please feel free to reinstate your other edits, and if you like put the tibetan in your favourite romanization of the correct pronunciation in brackets after the first time each word is used. Billlion 18:43, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Hello,
Why is there no information on the Six Yogas of Naropa? This article is seriously short. There's ample info available on it. Maybe all this info is in other articles?
My local Kagyu centre pronounces it Kadjyu. I don't know if this is a common Anglicisation or not. I've not heard the pronounciation suggested in the article. Secretlondon ( talk) 22:39, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm currently trying to re work and improve this page. I'll try to make some notes here about what I've done as I go along. Chris Fynn ( talk) 05:27, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
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I've removed the Tibetan-Chinese infobox since it adds nothing of real value to the article and just adds clutter. This is English Wikipedia and the article is about an aspect of Tibetan Buddhism ~ so I think it best to stick to English and Tibetan names (and maybe translitterated Sanskrit where a technical term is better known in that language). If someone wants to know the Chinese name they can always look at the corresponding article in Chinese Wikipedia which is linked in the left column of the page along with other languages. BTW I don't see any English or Tibetan names there. Chris Fynn ( talk) 17:18, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
@ Ogress and VictoriaGrayson:Most of the material inserted in the sub-section on Martsang Kagyu on 7 January 2014 seems to be just a copy and paste job by Rinchen Tsomo from the two Martsang Kagyu web sites www.martsangkagyu.co.uk & martsangkagyuofficial.org - and potentially a copyright violation. Anyway it needs better quality sources. Also, considering the relative historical importance and influence of this particular Kagyu sub-school, the Martsang Kagyu section has grown far too long. The section is now in need of a serious cleanup. This Kagyu article was intended to be an overview of all the Kagyu schools of Tibet and not go into great detail about each particular one. Where they are sufficiently significant or notable these Kagyu sub-schools can always be the subjects of separate Wikipedia articles. If someone thinks the Martsang Kagyu is sufficiently notable and wants to write a separate Wikipedia article on the Martsang Kagyu, go ahead (though any such article should obviously be based on good quality secondary sources, rather than on the self-published Martsang Kagyu affiliated websites). Chris Fynn ( talk) 13:38, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
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Rick Block's edit (categorization: Category:Tibetan Buddhism is a form of Category:Vajrayana Buddhism) seems a bit strange. Certainly not all Kagyu is from Tibet. And Vajrayana spred as far as Mongolia and Siberia. On the other hand 'Tibet' and 'Buddhism' are inventions of western scholars, and maybe most people in the west use Vajrayana and Tibetan Buddism interchangably. Comments please! Billlion 16:47, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Is it accurate to state, that Karmapa is the head of the Kagyu-school? I think he is the head of the Karma-Kagyü-School of tibetan-buddhism. There are different other Kagyu-lineageholders like the Drikungpa-lamas. I assume that Karmapa is not the head of the Drikung-school. So it is maybe better to give unter Kagyu a general introduction to Kagyu, a schoolform developed by Gampopa, by uniting the yogic and monastic form of tantric buddhism. From Gampopas diciples developed the different Kagyu-schools under wich, the Karma-Kagyu with its head Karmapa is only one of nine. (Drukpa, Drikung, Yelpa, Yoru, Krophu, Karma, Shangpa etc.) Greetings Panchito 9.12.04 10:35 CET
The article does not mention the disputed title of Karmapa and the two contenders. It should at very least mention this and explain both sides of the argument. For basic background on this dispute, which has split the Karma Kagyu school, refer to this article: http://www.newstatesman.com/200405170048
I reverted Nathan Hill's edits as it rather difficult to revert just his obscurification of tibetan words. Nathan please feel free to reinstate your other edits, and if you like put the tibetan in your favourite romanization of the correct pronunciation in brackets after the first time each word is used. Billlion 18:43, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Hello,
Why is there no information on the Six Yogas of Naropa? This article is seriously short. There's ample info available on it. Maybe all this info is in other articles?
My local Kagyu centre pronounces it Kadjyu. I don't know if this is a common Anglicisation or not. I've not heard the pronounciation suggested in the article. Secretlondon ( talk) 22:39, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm currently trying to re work and improve this page. I'll try to make some notes here about what I've done as I go along. Chris Fynn ( talk) 05:27, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
References
I've removed the Tibetan-Chinese infobox since it adds nothing of real value to the article and just adds clutter. This is English Wikipedia and the article is about an aspect of Tibetan Buddhism ~ so I think it best to stick to English and Tibetan names (and maybe translitterated Sanskrit where a technical term is better known in that language). If someone wants to know the Chinese name they can always look at the corresponding article in Chinese Wikipedia which is linked in the left column of the page along with other languages. BTW I don't see any English or Tibetan names there. Chris Fynn ( talk) 17:18, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
@ Ogress and VictoriaGrayson:Most of the material inserted in the sub-section on Martsang Kagyu on 7 January 2014 seems to be just a copy and paste job by Rinchen Tsomo from the two Martsang Kagyu web sites www.martsangkagyu.co.uk & martsangkagyuofficial.org - and potentially a copyright violation. Anyway it needs better quality sources. Also, considering the relative historical importance and influence of this particular Kagyu sub-school, the Martsang Kagyu section has grown far too long. The section is now in need of a serious cleanup. This Kagyu article was intended to be an overview of all the Kagyu schools of Tibet and not go into great detail about each particular one. Where they are sufficiently significant or notable these Kagyu sub-schools can always be the subjects of separate Wikipedia articles. If someone thinks the Martsang Kagyu is sufficiently notable and wants to write a separate Wikipedia article on the Martsang Kagyu, go ahead (though any such article should obviously be based on good quality secondary sources, rather than on the self-published Martsang Kagyu affiliated websites). Chris Fynn ( talk) 13:38, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
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Thanks goes to User:Lotje for making this attempt to fix some dead urls which were found in some WP:BAREURL refs. Adding a {{ cite web}} template is a good start for regularizing the citation, but unfortunately it's not sufficient by itself if the url is a dead link, as the urls in this example are.. You can find out more about dead links and how to repair them, at Wikipedia:Link rot, in particular, section #Repairing a dead link. A good start, is to see if you can find an archived copy of the old url, at the Internet archive ([ archive.org]). I hope this helps, and if you have any questions, please ping me here. Thanks, Mathglot ( talk) 05:30, 21 May 2021 (UTC)