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In the third paragraph of History, the sentence beginning "From the half of 14th and in 15th" is incomplete. I would like to do a GOCE review, but first I need a little more information to understand what the sentence is about. Folklore1 ( talk) 13:25, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
Also in the third paragraph, see 'where is mentioned "dominum Caçigh".' Does this mean that something is mentioned in "dominum Cacigh" or that "dominum Cacigh" is mentioned? Folklore1 ( talk) 13:31, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
In the sentence beginning "Knez Nikola was enough", it is unclear who executed the archbishop. The sentence is awfully long and complicated. Folklore1 ( talk) 14:04, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
The sentence beginning with "The Split army" is unclear. What did the army do? What did the two brothers do? Folklore1 ( talk) 15:05, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
See also, "In March of 1245, knez Nikola of Hodimir, with hundred Omiš citizens". Should that be "a hundred Omiš citizens" or "hundreds of Omiš citizens"? Folklore1 ( talk) 15:19, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
Was Juraj married to the daughter of Stefan? Or was Stefan married to the daughter of Juraj? Folklore1 ( talk) 15:22, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
What did Béla IV and Stjepan do about the dispute between Osor and the city of Trogir? Folklore1 ( talk) 15:27, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
See the sentence beginning "In the 1261–62 document". This is an awfully confusing sentence. I can't figure it out. Also, what "document" does it refer to? Folklore1 ( talk) 15:33, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
See "In 1275 started the conflict". Who or what started the conflict? Who were the combatants in this conflict? Folklore1 ( talk) 17:57, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
See "the Venetians wrote to Dubrovnik residents to pay compensation as did not armed ship against them." Who was paying, or expected to pay compensation? Why? Folklore1 ( talk) 18:31, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
See "The said Simon some related with Šimun Kačić". What does this mean? Folklore1 ( talk) 19:20, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Done copy editing, a couple of points remained:
1* Another prominent branch of the family was part of the Hungarian nobility. → I don't think this is very clear
6* for some Zadar, → For some what? and 8* The fourth paragraph of History doesn't seem to be in chronological order as the previous para talks about the 15th century?
9* principality undoubtedly was → Sounds bias
10* making it sometimes hard to reliably identify members of the genus. → Bit informal and doesn't quite make sense
11* → Is this entire paragraph attributed to citation 5?
16* Given the length and detail of the article, there lead is insufficient and needs expanding. It should be two, perhaps even three, paragraphs long.
GA review 2. C. "No original research" - there's no OR, all claims are from sources. In previous revision almost each sentence had ref-note, but the editor Folklore1, who done GOCE review and copy editing, reduced the number of ref-note repetition in the same paragraph (it is mostly the case of "Majnarić (HBL) 2005").-- Crovata ( talk) 12:30, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
Okay, well I feel like I can pass this now. Thanks for explaining some things as well as addressing. Passing. — Calvin999 16:54, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
Kacsics was merged here. Why? The article says: Several scholars considered that Hungarian Kacsics may have been descendants of Omiš Kačićs (Majnaric 2005, 2009). May.-- Zoupan 00:17, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
@ Rkersic12: is there a reliable source which confirms that the surname Kersic is related to Kačić family as well as royal title of prince being held by the same family members? For any such claim, especially article rated GA-class, you need to provide a WP:RS. Please provide a link here to a RS to be checked. If there aren't any, then edits including the same information without any RS will be reverted.-- Miki Filigranski ( talk) 15:17, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
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The contents of the Kacsics page were merged into Kačić family on 1 May 2015. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected page, please see its history; for the discussion at that location, see its talk page. |
In the third paragraph of History, the sentence beginning "From the half of 14th and in 15th" is incomplete. I would like to do a GOCE review, but first I need a little more information to understand what the sentence is about. Folklore1 ( talk) 13:25, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
Also in the third paragraph, see 'where is mentioned "dominum Caçigh".' Does this mean that something is mentioned in "dominum Cacigh" or that "dominum Cacigh" is mentioned? Folklore1 ( talk) 13:31, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
In the sentence beginning "Knez Nikola was enough", it is unclear who executed the archbishop. The sentence is awfully long and complicated. Folklore1 ( talk) 14:04, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
The sentence beginning with "The Split army" is unclear. What did the army do? What did the two brothers do? Folklore1 ( talk) 15:05, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
See also, "In March of 1245, knez Nikola of Hodimir, with hundred Omiš citizens". Should that be "a hundred Omiš citizens" or "hundreds of Omiš citizens"? Folklore1 ( talk) 15:19, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
Was Juraj married to the daughter of Stefan? Or was Stefan married to the daughter of Juraj? Folklore1 ( talk) 15:22, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
What did Béla IV and Stjepan do about the dispute between Osor and the city of Trogir? Folklore1 ( talk) 15:27, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
See the sentence beginning "In the 1261–62 document". This is an awfully confusing sentence. I can't figure it out. Also, what "document" does it refer to? Folklore1 ( talk) 15:33, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
See "In 1275 started the conflict". Who or what started the conflict? Who were the combatants in this conflict? Folklore1 ( talk) 17:57, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
See "the Venetians wrote to Dubrovnik residents to pay compensation as did not armed ship against them." Who was paying, or expected to pay compensation? Why? Folklore1 ( talk) 18:31, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
See "The said Simon some related with Šimun Kačić". What does this mean? Folklore1 ( talk) 19:20, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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On hold for 7 days. — Calvin999 19:21, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
Done copy editing, a couple of points remained:
1* Another prominent branch of the family was part of the Hungarian nobility. → I don't think this is very clear
6* for some Zadar, → For some what? and 8* The fourth paragraph of History doesn't seem to be in chronological order as the previous para talks about the 15th century?
9* principality undoubtedly was → Sounds bias
10* making it sometimes hard to reliably identify members of the genus. → Bit informal and doesn't quite make sense
11* → Is this entire paragraph attributed to citation 5?
16* Given the length and detail of the article, there lead is insufficient and needs expanding. It should be two, perhaps even three, paragraphs long.
GA review 2. C. "No original research" - there's no OR, all claims are from sources. In previous revision almost each sentence had ref-note, but the editor Folklore1, who done GOCE review and copy editing, reduced the number of ref-note repetition in the same paragraph (it is mostly the case of "Majnarić (HBL) 2005").-- Crovata ( talk) 12:30, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
Okay, well I feel like I can pass this now. Thanks for explaining some things as well as addressing. Passing. — Calvin999 16:54, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
Kacsics was merged here. Why? The article says: Several scholars considered that Hungarian Kacsics may have been descendants of Omiš Kačićs (Majnaric 2005, 2009). May.-- Zoupan 00:17, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
@ Rkersic12: is there a reliable source which confirms that the surname Kersic is related to Kačić family as well as royal title of prince being held by the same family members? For any such claim, especially article rated GA-class, you need to provide a WP:RS. Please provide a link here to a RS to be checked. If there aren't any, then edits including the same information without any RS will be reverted.-- Miki Filigranski ( talk) 15:17, 31 May 2022 (UTC)