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KCAM AM and KCAM FM are both operated by the same organization, with similar scope and coverage area. Is there any need for two separate articles? Would it be appropriate to merge both into a single "KCAM Radio" page? --
Son of thunder (
talk)
00:29, 30 September 2014 (UTC)reply
I've previously brought this issue up at
WT:WPRS. Where a scenario exists such as you describe, there was lukewarm support for the idea of merging. Unfortunately, at the same time, members of that project appear to be content with pushing, in a not-exactly-obvious manner, the POV that it's the FCC license and FCC license alone which establishes notability, not anything the station does or has done.
C class article
KKNI (AM), stub article
KKNI-FM and dab page
KKNI (in this case, there exists conflicting information as to whether a single entity operates these stations – I haven't bothered to search the FCC database to figure it out one way or the other)
Stub article
KTOO (FM) and dab page
KTOO, plus
KTOO-TV, which inexplicably redirects to
AlaskaOne, a recent affiliation, despite extensive evidence of independent notability (KTOO also operates 360 North, arguably notable in its own right, which of course explains why little to no mention of it whatsoever exists on Wikipedia)
Stub article
KYUK (AM), stub article
KYUK-FM and dab page
KYUK, plus stub article for parent entity
Bethel Broadcasting, Incorporated – there is also
KYUK-TV, which also inexplicably redirects to the AlaskaOne article in spite of independent notability
That's simply based on matching call signs. That doesn't even include the likes of Big River Public Broadcasting (plus presumably Kotzebue Broadcasting and likely others) which hold multiple licenses and call signs, but transmit a single broadcast emanating from a "home station".
RadioKAOS /
Talk to me, Billy /
Transmissions 02:47, 16 October 2014 (UTC)reply
For the dab pages, that would have to go through
Wikipedia:Disambiguation. As it stands, their rules say we have to have a dab page for both. Plus, it avoids confusion.
As for the radio station pages themselves, I can work on them, but it will take me some time. Currently, my left hand is working at about 80% after carpal tunnel surgery. Plus, each page takes about 2 to 3 days to come together with the research, breaks to rest my hand (doctor's orders) and such.
But for the notability aspect, you would need to get consensus to change that. There is long-standing established consensus that radio stations are notable, per
WP:NMEDIA and
WP:OUTCOME. Not to mention the numerous AfDs and ANI discussions (no, I'm not going to look for them) all of which back that consensus up.
If you want to help, instead of creating a massive discussion which crosses
WP:DISAMBIG,
WP:TVS and this WikiProject, find an article, use some of the
available resources and work on getting these articles up to par. Remember,
WP:BURDEN.
Oppose since the stations have different broadcast histories, different technical histories, could be sold apart from one another at any time, and other factors that mean individual articles are the best way to handle individual radio stations. It would be liking merging
Brad Pitt and
Angelina Jolie into the (entirely real)
Brangelina article because they're currently married and living together. -
Dravecky (
talk)
08:35, 16 October 2014 (UTC)reply
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KCAM AM and KCAM FM are both operated by the same organization, with similar scope and coverage area. Is there any need for two separate articles? Would it be appropriate to merge both into a single "KCAM Radio" page? --
Son of thunder (
talk)
00:29, 30 September 2014 (UTC)reply
I've previously brought this issue up at
WT:WPRS. Where a scenario exists such as you describe, there was lukewarm support for the idea of merging. Unfortunately, at the same time, members of that project appear to be content with pushing, in a not-exactly-obvious manner, the POV that it's the FCC license and FCC license alone which establishes notability, not anything the station does or has done.
C class article
KKNI (AM), stub article
KKNI-FM and dab page
KKNI (in this case, there exists conflicting information as to whether a single entity operates these stations – I haven't bothered to search the FCC database to figure it out one way or the other)
Stub article
KTOO (FM) and dab page
KTOO, plus
KTOO-TV, which inexplicably redirects to
AlaskaOne, a recent affiliation, despite extensive evidence of independent notability (KTOO also operates 360 North, arguably notable in its own right, which of course explains why little to no mention of it whatsoever exists on Wikipedia)
Stub article
KYUK (AM), stub article
KYUK-FM and dab page
KYUK, plus stub article for parent entity
Bethel Broadcasting, Incorporated – there is also
KYUK-TV, which also inexplicably redirects to the AlaskaOne article in spite of independent notability
That's simply based on matching call signs. That doesn't even include the likes of Big River Public Broadcasting (plus presumably Kotzebue Broadcasting and likely others) which hold multiple licenses and call signs, but transmit a single broadcast emanating from a "home station".
RadioKAOS /
Talk to me, Billy /
Transmissions 02:47, 16 October 2014 (UTC)reply
For the dab pages, that would have to go through
Wikipedia:Disambiguation. As it stands, their rules say we have to have a dab page for both. Plus, it avoids confusion.
As for the radio station pages themselves, I can work on them, but it will take me some time. Currently, my left hand is working at about 80% after carpal tunnel surgery. Plus, each page takes about 2 to 3 days to come together with the research, breaks to rest my hand (doctor's orders) and such.
But for the notability aspect, you would need to get consensus to change that. There is long-standing established consensus that radio stations are notable, per
WP:NMEDIA and
WP:OUTCOME. Not to mention the numerous AfDs and ANI discussions (no, I'm not going to look for them) all of which back that consensus up.
If you want to help, instead of creating a massive discussion which crosses
WP:DISAMBIG,
WP:TVS and this WikiProject, find an article, use some of the
available resources and work on getting these articles up to par. Remember,
WP:BURDEN.
Oppose since the stations have different broadcast histories, different technical histories, could be sold apart from one another at any time, and other factors that mean individual articles are the best way to handle individual radio stations. It would be liking merging
Brad Pitt and
Angelina Jolie into the (entirely real)
Brangelina article because they're currently married and living together. -
Dravecky (
talk)
08:35, 16 October 2014 (UTC)reply
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