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The result was: promoted by
Yoninah (
talk) 16:59, 24 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment: I would much prefer the main hook to ALT1, which is not very flattering to Gransden. This is my first nomination, so I will invoke the newbie's exception clause to the quid pro quo rule for now, but will try to do some reviewing once I get a sense of how things work.
blameless 02:43, 8 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Created by
Blameless (
talk). Self-nominated at 02:43, 8 October 2020 (UTC).reply
New enough. Long enough. Reliable inline citations throughout. AGF on non-online sources. Neutral. No copyright violations. Both hooks are cited. I think ALT1 is more interesting than the main hook, and it doesn't need the unflattering qualifier "despite middling reviews for his only full-length book of poems".
Hybernator (
talk) 04:06, 20 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Hi, I came by to promote ALT2, but I don't see a source for the fact that he published only one full-length book of poems. The source for the chapbook being his only other work is the book itself.
Yoninah (
talk) 20:00, 22 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Thanks,
Yoninah. It's a little hard to cite a negative (in this case that he had no other books of poems). The
Independent obit mentions the two books, but does not actually point out that the second one is a chapbook. If this an insurmountable obstacle, could we just go with something vaguer, like, I guess ALT3: "that K. W. Gransden, though known primarily as a critic, was included by
Philip Larkin in the
The Oxford Book of Twentieth Century English Verse?"
blameless 22:18, 22 October 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Blameless: It's not insurmountable. Perhaps go to Worldcat to check how many books he wrote. You could always say:
@
Blameless: But we need a source that says he published only two poetry collections.
Yoninah (
talk) 09:50, 23 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Understood,
Yoninah.
Powell's obit is only partly visible to non-subscribers to PN Review (including me), but the visible bit at the top does say "two collections of poems." That's all I've got for now. Worldcat does indeed just list the two, but it's not always reliable for things like fine-press limited editions. So I think it's just Powell.
blameless 20:29, 23 October 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Blameless: the Powell source is fine; thank you for adding it. Restoring tick for ALT3 per Hybernator's review.
Yoninah (
talk) 16:55, 24 October 2020 (UTC)reply
A fact from K. W. Gransden appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 2 November 2020 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to
join the project and
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England on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by
Yoninah (
talk) 16:59, 24 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment: I would much prefer the main hook to ALT1, which is not very flattering to Gransden. This is my first nomination, so I will invoke the newbie's exception clause to the quid pro quo rule for now, but will try to do some reviewing once I get a sense of how things work.
blameless 02:43, 8 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Created by
Blameless (
talk). Self-nominated at 02:43, 8 October 2020 (UTC).reply
New enough. Long enough. Reliable inline citations throughout. AGF on non-online sources. Neutral. No copyright violations. Both hooks are cited. I think ALT1 is more interesting than the main hook, and it doesn't need the unflattering qualifier "despite middling reviews for his only full-length book of poems".
Hybernator (
talk) 04:06, 20 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Hi, I came by to promote ALT2, but I don't see a source for the fact that he published only one full-length book of poems. The source for the chapbook being his only other work is the book itself.
Yoninah (
talk) 20:00, 22 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Thanks,
Yoninah. It's a little hard to cite a negative (in this case that he had no other books of poems). The
Independent obit mentions the two books, but does not actually point out that the second one is a chapbook. If this an insurmountable obstacle, could we just go with something vaguer, like, I guess ALT3: "that K. W. Gransden, though known primarily as a critic, was included by
Philip Larkin in the
The Oxford Book of Twentieth Century English Verse?"
blameless 22:18, 22 October 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Blameless: It's not insurmountable. Perhaps go to Worldcat to check how many books he wrote. You could always say:
@
Blameless: But we need a source that says he published only two poetry collections.
Yoninah (
talk) 09:50, 23 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Understood,
Yoninah.
Powell's obit is only partly visible to non-subscribers to PN Review (including me), but the visible bit at the top does say "two collections of poems." That's all I've got for now. Worldcat does indeed just list the two, but it's not always reliable for things like fine-press limited editions. So I think it's just Powell.
blameless 20:29, 23 October 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Blameless: the Powell source is fine; thank you for adding it. Restoring tick for ALT3 per Hybernator's review.
Yoninah (
talk) 16:55, 24 October 2020 (UTC)reply