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What does the K stand for?? Georgia guy 18:10, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
K stands for Kim.
"Drexler's work on nanotechnology has been criticized as naive by scientists such as Nobel Prize winner Richard Smalley. Smalley argued that nanomachines would have to resemble chemical enzymes more than Drexler's idealized assemblers. Drexler and his followers have launched repeated attacks against Smalley in the media. Most professional nanoscientists have distanced themselves from Drexler in recent years, and regard him more as a publicity seeker than a serious scientist."
Can someone cite places or even a place where Drexler or "his followers" attacked Smalley in the media? Attacking what he said about nanotechnology/chemistry I can see, but this reads as ad hominem. I am going to edit this. If someone wants to revert it, please cite sources for such matters as "publicity seeker." Hkhenson 17:37, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
There are two URLs for references to the 1981 PNAS paper (which was what started Eric down this path -- not Engines of Creation in 1986) that are missing!
The URLs are the authoratative PNAS copy (abstract with a pointer to what I think is an image scanned PDF copy): [1] the IMM.org web site has a more htmlized version: [2]
I believe the PNAS version has a list of papers which refer to Eric's paper while the IMM version may have URL references to external sources.
Robert ( talk) 17:35, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, I fail to understand what specific professional disagreement, detailed as it my be, is doing on a personal biography wikipedia value. It looks woefully out of place. Scientifically speaking the arguments made there are near to complete rubbish. But even so those arguments are not relevant and eggriogiously over detailed to a biography page. My main qualm with the controversy section is the sheer length of it and the level of irrelevant specifics. Both make it out to look like there's some actual controversy on the person in question (Eric K. Drexler). When in fact it's just one person with too much free time bickering about his ideas. Just my 0.02$ as a wikipedia reader. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.84.56.60 ( talk) 05:43, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
I completely agree with the last comment. The section is strangely long. Some wiki editor should do something about it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.219.165.168 ( talk) 18:34, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
Actually, the controversy over Drexler is perhaps one of the most important things about him over the last decade and has resulted in a huge discussion in the nano community. While in the 90s he was largely respected, in the early 2000s he has been insistently shoved aside by the nano community to the point that he has become rather marginalized. If you want proof of this just read the above talk section about "K"--it randomly asides into Drexler bashing. Really, this is actually somewhat old news. The bulk of this controversy happened from 2000-2005. Now that all the nanoexcitement has fizzled a good bit its become less of an issue. However, I think the controversy section is still warranted for that reason.-- Etherfire ( talk) 00:47, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
I propose adding the following sentence to the end of the Controversy section:
'In 2008 UK government funding of 1.5 million pounds over six years was provided for research working towards mechanized mechanosynthesis. The project leader is Professor Moriarty of the University of Nottingham in partnership with the Institute for Molecular Manufacturing, amongst others.' See http://gow.epsrc.ac.uk/ViewGrant.aspx?GrantRef=EP/G007837/1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Star A Star ( talk • contribs) 08:17, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
Although much of the field credits Drexler's book (1986) as the initial impetus, Drexler had founded the MIT Nanotechnology Group about two years earlier. There is almost no information about the group on-line. The group has no web page that I could find, although many of its original members (excluding then-students) may still be at MIT. In the early years, Drexler was a rather charismatic visionary, but his relevance faded as the field had become more accepted. Alex.deWitte ( talk) 04:43, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
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What does the K stand for?? Georgia guy 18:10, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
K stands for Kim.
"Drexler's work on nanotechnology has been criticized as naive by scientists such as Nobel Prize winner Richard Smalley. Smalley argued that nanomachines would have to resemble chemical enzymes more than Drexler's idealized assemblers. Drexler and his followers have launched repeated attacks against Smalley in the media. Most professional nanoscientists have distanced themselves from Drexler in recent years, and regard him more as a publicity seeker than a serious scientist."
Can someone cite places or even a place where Drexler or "his followers" attacked Smalley in the media? Attacking what he said about nanotechnology/chemistry I can see, but this reads as ad hominem. I am going to edit this. If someone wants to revert it, please cite sources for such matters as "publicity seeker." Hkhenson 17:37, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
There are two URLs for references to the 1981 PNAS paper (which was what started Eric down this path -- not Engines of Creation in 1986) that are missing!
The URLs are the authoratative PNAS copy (abstract with a pointer to what I think is an image scanned PDF copy): [1] the IMM.org web site has a more htmlized version: [2]
I believe the PNAS version has a list of papers which refer to Eric's paper while the IMM version may have URL references to external sources.
Robert ( talk) 17:35, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, I fail to understand what specific professional disagreement, detailed as it my be, is doing on a personal biography wikipedia value. It looks woefully out of place. Scientifically speaking the arguments made there are near to complete rubbish. But even so those arguments are not relevant and eggriogiously over detailed to a biography page. My main qualm with the controversy section is the sheer length of it and the level of irrelevant specifics. Both make it out to look like there's some actual controversy on the person in question (Eric K. Drexler). When in fact it's just one person with too much free time bickering about his ideas. Just my 0.02$ as a wikipedia reader. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.84.56.60 ( talk) 05:43, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
I completely agree with the last comment. The section is strangely long. Some wiki editor should do something about it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.219.165.168 ( talk) 18:34, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
Actually, the controversy over Drexler is perhaps one of the most important things about him over the last decade and has resulted in a huge discussion in the nano community. While in the 90s he was largely respected, in the early 2000s he has been insistently shoved aside by the nano community to the point that he has become rather marginalized. If you want proof of this just read the above talk section about "K"--it randomly asides into Drexler bashing. Really, this is actually somewhat old news. The bulk of this controversy happened from 2000-2005. Now that all the nanoexcitement has fizzled a good bit its become less of an issue. However, I think the controversy section is still warranted for that reason.-- Etherfire ( talk) 00:47, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
I propose adding the following sentence to the end of the Controversy section:
'In 2008 UK government funding of 1.5 million pounds over six years was provided for research working towards mechanized mechanosynthesis. The project leader is Professor Moriarty of the University of Nottingham in partnership with the Institute for Molecular Manufacturing, amongst others.' See http://gow.epsrc.ac.uk/ViewGrant.aspx?GrantRef=EP/G007837/1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Star A Star ( talk • contribs) 08:17, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
Although much of the field credits Drexler's book (1986) as the initial impetus, Drexler had founded the MIT Nanotechnology Group about two years earlier. There is almost no information about the group on-line. The group has no web page that I could find, although many of its original members (excluding then-students) may still be at MIT. In the early years, Drexler was a rather charismatic visionary, but his relevance faded as the field had become more accepted. Alex.deWitte ( talk) 04:43, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
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