"Because it lacks a topographic prominence" - because it isn't high?
Shield volcanoes are unique in that they are long sloping "shield" shaped mastiffs instead of classical triangles. While you could still pretty clearly tell where the summits are on other shields, Kilauea is so flat that its summit looks more like a plain than a peak. It's not that it's not tall; it's that its slope is, overall, so low that it's hard to find a center. ResMar
"ROVs" - should you spell out before using initials? (Remotely operated underwater vehicle)?
Eh...spelled out it's clunky, and I assume people know what these are in colloquial usage, or will click the link if they do not and are so inclined. ResMar21:35, 11 November 2012 (UTC)reply
"should explosive activity start anew the volcano would become much more dangerous" - so it's not explosive now? - what about "Ki-lauea's current eruption dates back to January 3, 1983"?
This distinction is not clear in the lede. Readers shouldn't have to read through the piping to figure out what is going on. I think that perhaps I don't have the required knowledge to review this article.
MathewTownsend (
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00:15, 14 November 2012 (UTC)reply
Hawaiian volcanoes are located in the middle of the Pacific ocean, which means that they necessarily start as below-water seamounts, and grow up and out from there. St. Helens is on solid land and doesn't have to work up to the surface in that manner. Fun fact: Mauna Kea is taller than Mount Everett if taken from its oceanic base, and a bajillion times wider.
"continued Hawaiian activity and occasional explosive eruptions will continue to heighten Ki-lauea's summit and build up its rift zones" - can repetition of "continued/continue" be avoided?
"occasionally intermittent with volcanic ash products from explosive eruptions" - suggestion: with intermittent volcanic ash products from explosive eruptions?
"Rainfall there exceeds the maximum 1,000 mm (39 in) a year and it is classified as a "true" desert." - this is my rewording but I don't understand. How is it classified as a desert if the rainfall exceeds the maximum? - I'm not understanding something, or did I change the meaning? Because of the acid rain?
Deserts in the classical sense are gauged exclusively by rainfall. But it's pretty much a desert and colloquially referred to as such so shrug. ResMar21:35, 11 November 2012 (UTC)reply
"a’e ferns" - not a typo, right?
Modern era
quote "something must be done" - needs a citation
I ripped this from another page it appears now that the source it quotes doesn't actually support the statement, so I'm retracting the quote marks. ResMar21:32, 24 November 2012 (UTC)reply
USGS? - the United States Geological Survey? - need to put {USGS) after first mention.
under "Tourism" - events don't seem to be chronological. First paragraph is more recent, next goes back to past but flows to present; third paragraph present.
Is this an issue? I wasn't sure how to organize this section, so the first paragraph is background for the rest of the section. I could probably work something out. ResMar16:41, 16 November 2012 (UTC)reply
I've made some edits that you're free to revert.
[1]
Comment. I think someone else should review this article, since I don't understand your replies so far. I spent a great deal of time trying to understand it, I guess to no avail, as I don't know what you mean by several of your replies.
MathewTownsend (
talk)
00:15, 14 November 2012 (UTC)reply
This is what I get for getting bored of saying "Done" to everything. :/
I'm not going to be around this weekend, but I should be able to start going over this in depth on Monday or thereabout. ResMar23:04, 15 November 2012 (UTC)reply
According to
WP:PERCENT, the percent symbol (%) is more commonly used in scientific or technical articles than the written form. Thus the article should probably use the symbol. Volcanoguy00:27, 21 November 2012 (UTC)reply
@VG I prefer spelling out percent, and since the MoS doesn't specifically require percentages as the marker, I'm allowed to cling to my stylistic preferences here. ResMar21:34, 24 November 2012 (UTC)reply
" their death is evidenced by a set of footprints, listed on the National Register of Historic Places and presently preserved within the Hawaii Volcanoes National Park." - just not sure here. Is their death listed on the National Register or the set of footprints? I guess it's the footprints, but grammatically unclear, as the subject seems to be "death". Perhaps adding "evidenced by a set of footprints that are listed on the National Register..."?
MathewTownsend (
talk)
21:48, 29 November 2012 (UTC)reply
"Because it lacks a topographic prominence" - because it isn't high?
Shield volcanoes are unique in that they are long sloping "shield" shaped mastiffs instead of classical triangles. While you could still pretty clearly tell where the summits are on other shields, Kilauea is so flat that its summit looks more like a plain than a peak. It's not that it's not tall; it's that its slope is, overall, so low that it's hard to find a center. ResMar
"ROVs" - should you spell out before using initials? (Remotely operated underwater vehicle)?
Eh...spelled out it's clunky, and I assume people know what these are in colloquial usage, or will click the link if they do not and are so inclined. ResMar21:35, 11 November 2012 (UTC)reply
"should explosive activity start anew the volcano would become much more dangerous" - so it's not explosive now? - what about "Ki-lauea's current eruption dates back to January 3, 1983"?
This distinction is not clear in the lede. Readers shouldn't have to read through the piping to figure out what is going on. I think that perhaps I don't have the required knowledge to review this article.
MathewTownsend (
talk)
00:15, 14 November 2012 (UTC)reply
Hawaiian volcanoes are located in the middle of the Pacific ocean, which means that they necessarily start as below-water seamounts, and grow up and out from there. St. Helens is on solid land and doesn't have to work up to the surface in that manner. Fun fact: Mauna Kea is taller than Mount Everett if taken from its oceanic base, and a bajillion times wider.
"continued Hawaiian activity and occasional explosive eruptions will continue to heighten Ki-lauea's summit and build up its rift zones" - can repetition of "continued/continue" be avoided?
"occasionally intermittent with volcanic ash products from explosive eruptions" - suggestion: with intermittent volcanic ash products from explosive eruptions?
"Rainfall there exceeds the maximum 1,000 mm (39 in) a year and it is classified as a "true" desert." - this is my rewording but I don't understand. How is it classified as a desert if the rainfall exceeds the maximum? - I'm not understanding something, or did I change the meaning? Because of the acid rain?
Deserts in the classical sense are gauged exclusively by rainfall. But it's pretty much a desert and colloquially referred to as such so shrug. ResMar21:35, 11 November 2012 (UTC)reply
"a’e ferns" - not a typo, right?
Modern era
quote "something must be done" - needs a citation
I ripped this from another page it appears now that the source it quotes doesn't actually support the statement, so I'm retracting the quote marks. ResMar21:32, 24 November 2012 (UTC)reply
USGS? - the United States Geological Survey? - need to put {USGS) after first mention.
under "Tourism" - events don't seem to be chronological. First paragraph is more recent, next goes back to past but flows to present; third paragraph present.
Is this an issue? I wasn't sure how to organize this section, so the first paragraph is background for the rest of the section. I could probably work something out. ResMar16:41, 16 November 2012 (UTC)reply
I've made some edits that you're free to revert.
[1]
Comment. I think someone else should review this article, since I don't understand your replies so far. I spent a great deal of time trying to understand it, I guess to no avail, as I don't know what you mean by several of your replies.
MathewTownsend (
talk)
00:15, 14 November 2012 (UTC)reply
This is what I get for getting bored of saying "Done" to everything. :/
I'm not going to be around this weekend, but I should be able to start going over this in depth on Monday or thereabout. ResMar23:04, 15 November 2012 (UTC)reply
According to
WP:PERCENT, the percent symbol (%) is more commonly used in scientific or technical articles than the written form. Thus the article should probably use the symbol. Volcanoguy00:27, 21 November 2012 (UTC)reply
@VG I prefer spelling out percent, and since the MoS doesn't specifically require percentages as the marker, I'm allowed to cling to my stylistic preferences here. ResMar21:34, 24 November 2012 (UTC)reply
" their death is evidenced by a set of footprints, listed on the National Register of Historic Places and presently preserved within the Hawaii Volcanoes National Park." - just not sure here. Is their death listed on the National Register or the set of footprints? I guess it's the footprints, but grammatically unclear, as the subject seems to be "death". Perhaps adding "evidenced by a set of footprints that are listed on the National Register..."?
MathewTownsend (
talk)
21:48, 29 November 2012 (UTC)reply