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The result of the move request was: Moved ( non-admin closure) ( t · c) buidhe 07:23, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
Gannet Island (New Zealand) → Karewa / Gannet Island – Launching a full move request to establish consensus due to an earlier move being reverted. The proposed name has been the official name of the island since 2002, before which the name was an earlier convention of dual name (Gannet Island (Karewa), with the Māori name in brackets instead of separated by a slash as it is currently). Every source cited by this article has either the current name of Karewa / Gannet Island or the earlier form of Gannet Island (Karewa), as does the official NZ Geographic board gazetteer of place names. The proposed name is also consistent with WP:NZNC guidelines for dual place names and aligns with the dozens of articles about New Zealand geographic features which have dual place names, including Aoraki / Mount Cook, Whakaari / White Island and Lake Ellesmere / Te Waihora. It is also consistent with multiple move requests which I have made for dual place names in the past, which were passed with unanimous support ( 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6), which establish a precedent for the move and are why I initially made the move as an uncontroversial proposal in line with the instructions in Wikipedia:Requested moves#Undiscussed moves. Turnagra ( talk) 05:34, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus. Reasonable common-name and concision-vs.-precision arguments on both sides mean I can't extract a consensus out of this divided discussion. The primary-topic question got very little attention here, so I don't see a consensus to move Gannet Island to Gannet Island (disambiguation) either; feel free to start a separate RM on that issue at any time. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 18:43, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
– Per WP:COMMONNAME, WP:CONCISE, and MOS:SLASH; now that WP:NZNC has been amended to remove the requirement to use official names, it is time to revert this erroneous move. Google News shows 10 results for "Gannet Island", and no results for any dual name (the sole result that mentions both does so as separate names, rather than as a single name). Google Scholar has a similar result, with 25 suitable results for Gannet Island, compared to 7 suitable results for any form of a dual name. In addition, this Gannet Island is the primary topic for Gannet Island, having been viewed twice as much as all other Gannet Islands put together over the past year. BilledMammal ( talk) 13:44, 4 September 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mello hi! ( 投稿) 16:22, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
Karewa or Gannet Island). Per Multiple local names we should only choose a dual name when it is actually what English-speakers call the place, and thus an example of both being mentioned doesn't support a move to the dual title. BilledMammal ( talk) 00:23, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
It has been suggested that the main purpose of this legend is to make it clear that Karewa (Gannet Island) was once on land and so continues to mark the limits of tribal territory.Those need to be excluded.
The result of the move request was: no consensus. No apparent progress since the last RM. ( closed by non-admin page mover) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mello hi! ( 投稿) 02:14, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
The proposed title also better conforms with
MOS:SLASH, which recommends against using a slash because it suggests that the words are related without specifying how
. The proposed title is more
WP:RECOGNIZABLE as it leads with the common part of the name, and because readers are more likely to understand that this is the island in New Zealand if we disambiguate with "New Zealand" than if we disambiguate with "Kārewa".
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talk) 05:09, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: Moved ( non-admin closure) ( t · c) buidhe 07:23, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
Gannet Island (New Zealand) → Karewa / Gannet Island – Launching a full move request to establish consensus due to an earlier move being reverted. The proposed name has been the official name of the island since 2002, before which the name was an earlier convention of dual name (Gannet Island (Karewa), with the Māori name in brackets instead of separated by a slash as it is currently). Every source cited by this article has either the current name of Karewa / Gannet Island or the earlier form of Gannet Island (Karewa), as does the official NZ Geographic board gazetteer of place names. The proposed name is also consistent with WP:NZNC guidelines for dual place names and aligns with the dozens of articles about New Zealand geographic features which have dual place names, including Aoraki / Mount Cook, Whakaari / White Island and Lake Ellesmere / Te Waihora. It is also consistent with multiple move requests which I have made for dual place names in the past, which were passed with unanimous support ( 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6), which establish a precedent for the move and are why I initially made the move as an uncontroversial proposal in line with the instructions in Wikipedia:Requested moves#Undiscussed moves. Turnagra ( talk) 05:34, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus. Reasonable common-name and concision-vs.-precision arguments on both sides mean I can't extract a consensus out of this divided discussion. The primary-topic question got very little attention here, so I don't see a consensus to move Gannet Island to Gannet Island (disambiguation) either; feel free to start a separate RM on that issue at any time. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 18:43, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
– Per WP:COMMONNAME, WP:CONCISE, and MOS:SLASH; now that WP:NZNC has been amended to remove the requirement to use official names, it is time to revert this erroneous move. Google News shows 10 results for "Gannet Island", and no results for any dual name (the sole result that mentions both does so as separate names, rather than as a single name). Google Scholar has a similar result, with 25 suitable results for Gannet Island, compared to 7 suitable results for any form of a dual name. In addition, this Gannet Island is the primary topic for Gannet Island, having been viewed twice as much as all other Gannet Islands put together over the past year. BilledMammal ( talk) 13:44, 4 September 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mello hi! ( 投稿) 16:22, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
Karewa or Gannet Island). Per Multiple local names we should only choose a dual name when it is actually what English-speakers call the place, and thus an example of both being mentioned doesn't support a move to the dual title. BilledMammal ( talk) 00:23, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
It has been suggested that the main purpose of this legend is to make it clear that Karewa (Gannet Island) was once on land and so continues to mark the limits of tribal territory.Those need to be excluded.
The result of the move request was: no consensus. No apparent progress since the last RM. ( closed by non-admin page mover) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mello hi! ( 投稿) 02:14, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
The proposed title also better conforms with
MOS:SLASH, which recommends against using a slash because it suggests that the words are related without specifying how
. The proposed title is more
WP:RECOGNIZABLE as it leads with the common part of the name, and because readers are more likely to understand that this is the island in New Zealand if we disambiguate with "New Zealand" than if we disambiguate with "Kārewa".
BilledMammal (
talk) 05:09, 4 March 2023 (UTC)