So you need to say that Granatstein said that, the cite alone is insufficient.
Despite this, most of the German divisions along the French coast in late-1943 were either newer recruits or rebuilding veterans of the Eastern Front; "new" recruits, I think.
''to minimize the distance for which they were exposed on the beaches "during" rather than "for"
''It was formed with soldiers "largely below the age of eighteen and with men over thirty-five", comprising a total of 7,771 combat troops. "from" rather than "with"
Field exercises in Scotland commenced in August and September 1943, and succeeded in establishing unique techniques and equipment for use by armoured and artillery regiments in storming the beach." What were these "unique" techniques?
Through winter 1943 units worked in close cohesion to develop more advanced assault tactics among the Juno Beach regiments. "Through the winter of 1943"
Fixed by someone else (thank-you!)
had begun intense training for the invasion with the 3rd CID in February 1944, what is the "3rd CID"?
"30 minutes before H Hour and continue for 15 minutes; heavy bombing would then begin on the flanks of the divisional attack, lasting until H Hour" again direct attribution needed.
S before there should be intext attribution, so that a reader can figure out who said it.
All told the attack continued until 05:15, with 5,268 tons of bombs dropped by 1,136 sorties; this marked the largest attack by Bomber Command in terms of tonnage up to this point in the war. suggest drop "All told"
This would mean a lower tide, necessitating that the LCIs "would be obliged to touch down in the middle of the obstructions [beach obstacles] designed to destroy them". replace "necessitating that" with "meaning that"
Unlike for the Winnipegs, the DD Tanks had arrived at the Regina Rifles' beaches before the infantry, and in greater numbers than in Mike Sector. very clumsy phrasing
The reports coming in from the battalions already on Juno were mixed; the North Shore was "proceeding according to plan", while the Chaudieres were "making progress slowly".again, attribution needed.
...while the eastern Companies of the North Shore Regiment were fighting for St.-Aubin Should this be hyphenated? Likewise "St.-Croix" Should be either Sainte-Croix or St. Croix. And these place names need to be wikilinked to the correct target (there are 25 possible articles for
Sainte-Croix) on their first mention. Likewise for
Saint-Aubin. Also quite a few of the units are not wikilinked, yet I am sure that there are suitable targets.
Rather a lot of abbreviations are used and this becomes confusing at times as one has to refer back to figure out what is being referred to. Whilst introduced abbreviations are fine, sometimes the full name or term needs to be re-introduced.
I've gotten rid of a few of them. I'm still honestly debating whether to change over the shortened versions of the regiment names. I end up referring to them as "The Winnipegs" or "The QOR" or "The Reginas" quite a lot. Do you want me to change those over as well?
Cam(
Chat)(
Prof)18:04, 26 April 2011 (UTC)reply
Consistency, readability and understanding for the non expert reader are what matters. LCA, DD, CID are used extensively and could do with better explanation throughout.
I assume good faith for all sources which are off-line, all appear reliable, article is well referenced, no obvious OR. I note that no use has been made of [Beevor, Anthony (28 May 2009). D-Day: The Battle for Normandy. Viking.
ISBN978-0141048130.] which provides a very good overview with newly available sources. (just a comment)
Juno Beach order of battle: can you provide a short paragraph summary here, perhaps detail numbers of troops on both sides, major units, etc.
Better yet, I've moved it to be at the very top of the "planning and preparations" section, since that's basically a highly-detailed order of battle with additional information about defences and assault training. Hope that works.
Cam(
Chat)(
Prof)18:04, 26 April 2011 (UTC)reply
I will get to work on these issues likely tomorrow; I'm going to be spending most of today in aircraft and airports, but I'll get to work as quickly as I can.
Cam(
Chat)(
Prof)14:57, 22 April 2011 (UTC)reply
So you need to say that Granatstein said that, the cite alone is insufficient.
Despite this, most of the German divisions along the French coast in late-1943 were either newer recruits or rebuilding veterans of the Eastern Front; "new" recruits, I think.
''to minimize the distance for which they were exposed on the beaches "during" rather than "for"
''It was formed with soldiers "largely below the age of eighteen and with men over thirty-five", comprising a total of 7,771 combat troops. "from" rather than "with"
Field exercises in Scotland commenced in August and September 1943, and succeeded in establishing unique techniques and equipment for use by armoured and artillery regiments in storming the beach." What were these "unique" techniques?
Through winter 1943 units worked in close cohesion to develop more advanced assault tactics among the Juno Beach regiments. "Through the winter of 1943"
Fixed by someone else (thank-you!)
had begun intense training for the invasion with the 3rd CID in February 1944, what is the "3rd CID"?
"30 minutes before H Hour and continue for 15 minutes; heavy bombing would then begin on the flanks of the divisional attack, lasting until H Hour" again direct attribution needed.
S before there should be intext attribution, so that a reader can figure out who said it.
All told the attack continued until 05:15, with 5,268 tons of bombs dropped by 1,136 sorties; this marked the largest attack by Bomber Command in terms of tonnage up to this point in the war. suggest drop "All told"
This would mean a lower tide, necessitating that the LCIs "would be obliged to touch down in the middle of the obstructions [beach obstacles] designed to destroy them". replace "necessitating that" with "meaning that"
Unlike for the Winnipegs, the DD Tanks had arrived at the Regina Rifles' beaches before the infantry, and in greater numbers than in Mike Sector. very clumsy phrasing
The reports coming in from the battalions already on Juno were mixed; the North Shore was "proceeding according to plan", while the Chaudieres were "making progress slowly".again, attribution needed.
...while the eastern Companies of the North Shore Regiment were fighting for St.-Aubin Should this be hyphenated? Likewise "St.-Croix" Should be either Sainte-Croix or St. Croix. And these place names need to be wikilinked to the correct target (there are 25 possible articles for
Sainte-Croix) on their first mention. Likewise for
Saint-Aubin. Also quite a few of the units are not wikilinked, yet I am sure that there are suitable targets.
Rather a lot of abbreviations are used and this becomes confusing at times as one has to refer back to figure out what is being referred to. Whilst introduced abbreviations are fine, sometimes the full name or term needs to be re-introduced.
I've gotten rid of a few of them. I'm still honestly debating whether to change over the shortened versions of the regiment names. I end up referring to them as "The Winnipegs" or "The QOR" or "The Reginas" quite a lot. Do you want me to change those over as well?
Cam(
Chat)(
Prof)18:04, 26 April 2011 (UTC)reply
Consistency, readability and understanding for the non expert reader are what matters. LCA, DD, CID are used extensively and could do with better explanation throughout.
I assume good faith for all sources which are off-line, all appear reliable, article is well referenced, no obvious OR. I note that no use has been made of [Beevor, Anthony (28 May 2009). D-Day: The Battle for Normandy. Viking.
ISBN978-0141048130.] which provides a very good overview with newly available sources. (just a comment)
Juno Beach order of battle: can you provide a short paragraph summary here, perhaps detail numbers of troops on both sides, major units, etc.
Better yet, I've moved it to be at the very top of the "planning and preparations" section, since that's basically a highly-detailed order of battle with additional information about defences and assault training. Hope that works.
Cam(
Chat)(
Prof)18:04, 26 April 2011 (UTC)reply
I will get to work on these issues likely tomorrow; I'm going to be spending most of today in aircraft and airports, but I'll get to work as quickly as I can.
Cam(
Chat)(
Prof)14:57, 22 April 2011 (UTC)reply