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This "article" is completely lacking in any international outlook & describes only the narrow American use of the term Junior. 2.29.246.5 ( talk) 09:39, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved to Junior (education year). The nominator is unsure which title is the best, and despite three relists and a WikiProject reminder, only one other participant turned up to provide yet another title suggestion. This is a WP:NOGOODOPTIONS situation.
However, from what both participants have said and the concerns raised in the "Totally American-centric" section of this talk page, the current name is too ambiguous to keep on using. As such, we must pick one of the suggestions instead. Of these, I will provisionally pick Junior (education year) on precision grounds as it best embodies the scope of this article (a specific year of education at a higher-level school).
A new RM can be opened later if anyone has any better ideas. ( non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mello hi! ( 投稿) 06:05, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Junior (education) → ? – The current title is an incomplete disambiguation. There are multiple meanings of "junior" in the context of education:
As it stands, this article is purely about definition 1. As you see, this sense is specific to a small part of the world, and in any case disambiguated titles should not be still ambiguous.
But I'm not sure what the best new title would be. I see from here and Junior school that Canada has both definitions 1 and 2? So what would be a good title? Junior (United States and Canada)? Junior (North American education)? Hmm.... — Smjg ( talk) 23:43, 23 May 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 00:33, 31 May 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 05:11, 7 June 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 05:14, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
The lede describes the junior year as the third year, however, that depends on the local grade structure. This was particularly different a few decades ago when High School was commonly only 10th, 11th, and 12th grades (9th grade being part of "Junior High" before the Middle School structure became common). In 3-year High Schools, the junior year is the second year (Freshman, Junior, Senior for 10th, 11th, 12th grades, respectively). Perhaps a better description would be that the junior year is the penultimate year as that is fairly consistent regardless of how many grades per school level. — al-Shimoni ( talk) 10:35, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
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This "article" is completely lacking in any international outlook & describes only the narrow American use of the term Junior. 2.29.246.5 ( talk) 09:39, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved to Junior (education year). The nominator is unsure which title is the best, and despite three relists and a WikiProject reminder, only one other participant turned up to provide yet another title suggestion. This is a WP:NOGOODOPTIONS situation.
However, from what both participants have said and the concerns raised in the "Totally American-centric" section of this talk page, the current name is too ambiguous to keep on using. As such, we must pick one of the suggestions instead. Of these, I will provisionally pick Junior (education year) on precision grounds as it best embodies the scope of this article (a specific year of education at a higher-level school).
A new RM can be opened later if anyone has any better ideas. ( non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mello hi! ( 投稿) 06:05, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Junior (education) → ? – The current title is an incomplete disambiguation. There are multiple meanings of "junior" in the context of education:
As it stands, this article is purely about definition 1. As you see, this sense is specific to a small part of the world, and in any case disambiguated titles should not be still ambiguous.
But I'm not sure what the best new title would be. I see from here and Junior school that Canada has both definitions 1 and 2? So what would be a good title? Junior (United States and Canada)? Junior (North American education)? Hmm.... — Smjg ( talk) 23:43, 23 May 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 00:33, 31 May 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 05:11, 7 June 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 05:14, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
The lede describes the junior year as the third year, however, that depends on the local grade structure. This was particularly different a few decades ago when High School was commonly only 10th, 11th, and 12th grades (9th grade being part of "Junior High" before the Middle School structure became common). In 3-year High Schools, the junior year is the second year (Freshman, Junior, Senior for 10th, 11th, 12th grades, respectively). Perhaps a better description would be that the junior year is the penultimate year as that is fairly consistent regardless of how many grades per school level. — al-Shimoni ( talk) 10:35, 26 December 2022 (UTC)