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The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by
Victuallers (
talk) 08:49, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
** ALT1: ... that the new governor of
the province of Tangayika,
Julie Ngungwa (pictured), was ceremonially given the keys by
Bintou Keita, the head of the
United Nations stabilisation force? Source:
The source is a photo but the United Nations is a creditable source.
Created by Victuallers ( talk). Self-nominated at 09:40, 22 June 2022 (UTC).
leaving only two of Julie Ngungwa's territories in the "triangle of death"clause. Ignoring the odd locution that has Ngungwa seeming to own the territories on her own—she's the governor of Tanganyika, so they aren't hers, though she's the chief executive—this seems to contradict the pre-existing Tanganyika Province article, which mentions
the so-called "death triangle" of Manono- Mitwaba- Pweto(I found a UN report from 2013, [3], before Katanga was redivided in 2015 and a significant portion becoming Tanganyika). There is, of course, nothing to say that "death triangle" may be overused by UN politicians referring to dangerous areas of Tanganyika, but new DYKs are supposed to be reconciled with previously existing articles when they seem to be contradictory.
There are two territories, Nyunzu and Kalemie, north of Nyunzu, and also in the triangle of death, and here we are talking about Bendera, where there are still challenges at the security levelwhich parses to me as two territories plus the triangle of death, which she puts in the Bendara area. The Ngungwa article, however, combines these, assigning Nyunzu and Kalemis to said "triangle":
there would still be a presence in the territories of Nyunzu and Kalemie which remained in the "triangle of death" where serious crimes were happening. The phrase "triangle of death" makes for an interesting quote in a hook; I think the article needs to hew closer to Keita's actual words, and thus the ALT2 hook as well—perhaps, after
(ceremony pictured), something along the lines of
remaining in only two of the territories under Julie Ngungwa plus the "triangle of death"might be a potential approach? BlueMoonset ( talk) 03:29, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
the so-called "triangle of death" – an area bordering several localities between Tanganyika, Maniema, and South Kivu Provincesthat matches what Keita describes; this matches with the map at the end of the 2013 UN report I mentioned above, which places Bendera just south of the South Kivu border, not far from the border between it and Maniema. BlueMoonset ( talk) 03:51, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
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The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by
Victuallers (
talk) 08:49, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
** ALT1: ... that the new governor of
the province of Tangayika,
Julie Ngungwa (pictured), was ceremonially given the keys by
Bintou Keita, the head of the
United Nations stabilisation force? Source:
The source is a photo but the United Nations is a creditable source.
Created by Victuallers ( talk). Self-nominated at 09:40, 22 June 2022 (UTC).
leaving only two of Julie Ngungwa's territories in the "triangle of death"clause. Ignoring the odd locution that has Ngungwa seeming to own the territories on her own—she's the governor of Tanganyika, so they aren't hers, though she's the chief executive—this seems to contradict the pre-existing Tanganyika Province article, which mentions
the so-called "death triangle" of Manono- Mitwaba- Pweto(I found a UN report from 2013, [3], before Katanga was redivided in 2015 and a significant portion becoming Tanganyika). There is, of course, nothing to say that "death triangle" may be overused by UN politicians referring to dangerous areas of Tanganyika, but new DYKs are supposed to be reconciled with previously existing articles when they seem to be contradictory.
There are two territories, Nyunzu and Kalemie, north of Nyunzu, and also in the triangle of death, and here we are talking about Bendera, where there are still challenges at the security levelwhich parses to me as two territories plus the triangle of death, which she puts in the Bendara area. The Ngungwa article, however, combines these, assigning Nyunzu and Kalemis to said "triangle":
there would still be a presence in the territories of Nyunzu and Kalemie which remained in the "triangle of death" where serious crimes were happening. The phrase "triangle of death" makes for an interesting quote in a hook; I think the article needs to hew closer to Keita's actual words, and thus the ALT2 hook as well—perhaps, after
(ceremony pictured), something along the lines of
remaining in only two of the territories under Julie Ngungwa plus the "triangle of death"might be a potential approach? BlueMoonset ( talk) 03:29, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
the so-called "triangle of death" – an area bordering several localities between Tanganyika, Maniema, and South Kivu Provincesthat matches what Keita describes; this matches with the map at the end of the 2013 UN report I mentioned above, which places Bendera just south of the South Kivu border, not far from the border between it and Maniema. BlueMoonset ( talk) 03:51, 27 August 2022 (UTC)