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A fact from Julia Dawson appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 23 July 2022 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that Julia Dawson's first Clarion Van (pictured) was named for Scottish socialist
Caroline Martyn?
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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The result was: promoted by
Z1720 (
talk) 18:35, 19 July 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment: QPQ = 2 of 2 part hook. If you see an error fix it. All changes welcome... but if you can see how the hook might be tweeked (to fit with how you would have written it) when its in the queues for the main page then please look for a more constructive edit.
Other problems: - "Clarion Van number One was named for Caroline Martyn" appears with a citation only as the caption to the image on the page. I would recommend repeating this information and citation in the main body of the text.
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Overall: @
Madeleineog and
Victuallers: A very nice article! Good to go with a couple of minor changes. 1st, see above. 2nd, Wikipedia's manual of style recommends using double quotes around quotations, so it would be desirable to change from single quotes to double quotes throughout the article. My preference would be for the ALT as more hooky, as it leaves the reader wondering just what the vans were for.
Mary Mark Ockerbloom (
talk) 13:24, 20 June 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Mary Mark Ockerbloom and
Victuallers: Thanks for the review Mary. Your points are useful, but obviously neither of these are essential for DYK approval and and I think this is important to note as we will make DYK more inaccessible if new articles have to comply not only with DYK requirements but every "nice to have" in an article. I notice that you don't make the changes, this is allowed, but I've made them anyway. She seems like an interesting woman so nice to see that she now has an article and the vans are now mentioned more widely. Thx again.
Victuallers (
talk) 15:27, 21 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Do you need a reason? Surely that is a rhetorical question. Are you expecting one of us to admit that the other dozen or so references are all a cover? No idea why you are asking this. <--- yes this is a rhetorical statement. I do not need to chat about it. Thanks
Victuallers (
talk) 13:54, 8 July 2022 (UTC)reply
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A fact from Julia Dawson appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 23 July 2022 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that Julia Dawson's first Clarion Van (pictured) was named for Scottish socialist
Caroline Martyn?
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by
Z1720 (
talk) 18:35, 19 July 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment: QPQ = 2 of 2 part hook. If you see an error fix it. All changes welcome... but if you can see how the hook might be tweeked (to fit with how you would have written it) when its in the queues for the main page then please look for a more constructive edit.
Other problems: - "Clarion Van number One was named for Caroline Martyn" appears with a citation only as the caption to the image on the page. I would recommend repeating this information and citation in the main body of the text.
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Overall: @
Madeleineog and
Victuallers: A very nice article! Good to go with a couple of minor changes. 1st, see above. 2nd, Wikipedia's manual of style recommends using double quotes around quotations, so it would be desirable to change from single quotes to double quotes throughout the article. My preference would be for the ALT as more hooky, as it leaves the reader wondering just what the vans were for.
Mary Mark Ockerbloom (
talk) 13:24, 20 June 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Mary Mark Ockerbloom and
Victuallers: Thanks for the review Mary. Your points are useful, but obviously neither of these are essential for DYK approval and and I think this is important to note as we will make DYK more inaccessible if new articles have to comply not only with DYK requirements but every "nice to have" in an article. I notice that you don't make the changes, this is allowed, but I've made them anyway. She seems like an interesting woman so nice to see that she now has an article and the vans are now mentioned more widely. Thx again.
Victuallers (
talk) 15:27, 21 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Do you need a reason? Surely that is a rhetorical question. Are you expecting one of us to admit that the other dozen or so references are all a cover? No idea why you are asking this. <--- yes this is a rhetorical statement. I do not need to chat about it. Thanks
Victuallers (
talk) 13:54, 8 July 2022 (UTC)reply