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SeoR: have you considered this for Women in Red, it seems remarkably well-suited?
176.14.126.88 (
talk) 19:40, 24 February 2020 (UTC)reply
I had considered, and while not a member of that project, did file at least one article there before. Why not... Thanks.
SeoR (
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Wikiprojects - question
I got a question as to why I did not add Wikiproject Idaho and WP Massachusetts. As with multiple US State projects, these are declared as "inactive" and "semi-active" respectively, so I thought to wait until such time as they resume regular activity. I did add one project (for the Mormon / LDS movement), and think 4 is a pretty good base, but if there are more, I see no issue, each may bring editors who can enrich the article. One more added, given the prominence of the magazine and work as a member of the editorial team over an extended period.
SeoR (
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Mormon female figure, NYT description
It is good to see female Mormon leaders in Wikipedia, in a church more male-dominated than any except maybe the Roman Catholic. Ms Dushku is especially interesting as she has balanced holding some quite progressive views, as the wider world sees it, while remaining a dedicated Saint. Sadly, and something she forecast could happen given Mormon attitudes to single-parent families, her children did not find it easy to stay inside the tent. Now, there is a notice that this article is being "considered for deletion" but before anyone makes a decision, I'd hope you would also consult Mormon sources, such as Brigham Young University sites and archives. Even the New York Times describes the lady as a leading figure (Google gives
https://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/16/us/politics/for-romney-a-role-of-faith-and-authority.html). Thank you for this great project.
89.20.47.17 (
talk) 08:54, 27 February 2020 (UTC)reply
On feminist credentials, from another leading female Mormon public intellectual, L. Thatcher Ulrich - “If we had a resident feminist, it was Judy Dushku, who came to that first meeting with a rhymed manifesto” quoting Dialogue 1981: The Pink ‘Dialogue’ and Beyond.
2A00:1FA0:6B1:C949:EC17:87C9:FBFA:1670 (
talk) 17:34, 27 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Also in a retrospective article by Yorgason - “My consciousness was formed as a teenager by overhearing all these Mormon women in my living room in suburban Boston discussing how to organize Exponent II – remarkable women such as Judy Dushku and Claudia Bushman..”
Thatcher Ulrich and Bushman probably had bigger public profiles, Ulrich at the top of the university anthill - but Dushku stayed involved from the late 60s to the present in practical feminist initiatives.
2A00:1FA0:6B1:C949:EC17:87C9:FBFA:1670 (
talk) 17:44, 27 February 2020 (UTC)reply
One more Ulrich reference easily seen, in “Mormon women in ‘second wave’ feminism” - “Judy Dushku, then a graduate student at Tufts University, had been invited to join a consciousness-raising group based in Cambridge. With them, she was the token conservative. With us, she was the resident radical.”
2A00:1FA0:6B1:C949:EC17:87C9:FBFA:1670 (
talk) 17:57, 27 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Thanks, will see if these can be applied to support feminist aspect of the article. Ulrich and Bushman have articles in Wikipedia, and they are useful references.
SeoR (
talk) 12:30, 2 March 2020 (UTC)reply
If you want more on the LDS context you could look further at Rexburg and other places of residence. Rexburg is part of a strip of rural Idaho with >90% Mormon population. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
194.154.66.105 (
talk) 09:42, 4 March 2020 (UTC)reply
Thanks. Not sure if that point is directly useable but noted for context.
SeoR (
talk) 14:13, 4 March 2020 (UTC)reply
Summary box?
Could this encyclopedia article benefit from one of those summary data boxes many of the articles have top-right?
109.252.200.203 (
talk) 17:38, 3 March 2020 (UTC)reply
An "infobox" should really be present. Thanks.
SeoR (
talk) 14:15, 4 March 2020 (UTC)reply
This article was nominated for
deletion on 24 February 2020. The result of
the discussion was keep.
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Turning women blue
@
SeoR: have you considered this for Women in Red, it seems remarkably well-suited?
176.14.126.88 (
talk) 19:40, 24 February 2020 (UTC)reply
I had considered, and while not a member of that project, did file at least one article there before. Why not... Thanks.
SeoR (
talk) 21:33, 24 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Wikiprojects - question
I got a question as to why I did not add Wikiproject Idaho and WP Massachusetts. As with multiple US State projects, these are declared as "inactive" and "semi-active" respectively, so I thought to wait until such time as they resume regular activity. I did add one project (for the Mormon / LDS movement), and think 4 is a pretty good base, but if there are more, I see no issue, each may bring editors who can enrich the article. One more added, given the prominence of the magazine and work as a member of the editorial team over an extended period.
SeoR (
talk) 08:59, 25 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Mormon female figure, NYT description
It is good to see female Mormon leaders in Wikipedia, in a church more male-dominated than any except maybe the Roman Catholic. Ms Dushku is especially interesting as she has balanced holding some quite progressive views, as the wider world sees it, while remaining a dedicated Saint. Sadly, and something she forecast could happen given Mormon attitudes to single-parent families, her children did not find it easy to stay inside the tent. Now, there is a notice that this article is being "considered for deletion" but before anyone makes a decision, I'd hope you would also consult Mormon sources, such as Brigham Young University sites and archives. Even the New York Times describes the lady as a leading figure (Google gives
https://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/16/us/politics/for-romney-a-role-of-faith-and-authority.html). Thank you for this great project.
89.20.47.17 (
talk) 08:54, 27 February 2020 (UTC)reply
On feminist credentials, from another leading female Mormon public intellectual, L. Thatcher Ulrich - “If we had a resident feminist, it was Judy Dushku, who came to that first meeting with a rhymed manifesto” quoting Dialogue 1981: The Pink ‘Dialogue’ and Beyond.
2A00:1FA0:6B1:C949:EC17:87C9:FBFA:1670 (
talk) 17:34, 27 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Also in a retrospective article by Yorgason - “My consciousness was formed as a teenager by overhearing all these Mormon women in my living room in suburban Boston discussing how to organize Exponent II – remarkable women such as Judy Dushku and Claudia Bushman..”
Thatcher Ulrich and Bushman probably had bigger public profiles, Ulrich at the top of the university anthill - but Dushku stayed involved from the late 60s to the present in practical feminist initiatives.
2A00:1FA0:6B1:C949:EC17:87C9:FBFA:1670 (
talk) 17:44, 27 February 2020 (UTC)reply
One more Ulrich reference easily seen, in “Mormon women in ‘second wave’ feminism” - “Judy Dushku, then a graduate student at Tufts University, had been invited to join a consciousness-raising group based in Cambridge. With them, she was the token conservative. With us, she was the resident radical.”
2A00:1FA0:6B1:C949:EC17:87C9:FBFA:1670 (
talk) 17:57, 27 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Thanks, will see if these can be applied to support feminist aspect of the article. Ulrich and Bushman have articles in Wikipedia, and they are useful references.
SeoR (
talk) 12:30, 2 March 2020 (UTC)reply
If you want more on the LDS context you could look further at Rexburg and other places of residence. Rexburg is part of a strip of rural Idaho with >90% Mormon population. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
194.154.66.105 (
talk) 09:42, 4 March 2020 (UTC)reply
Thanks. Not sure if that point is directly useable but noted for context.
SeoR (
talk) 14:13, 4 March 2020 (UTC)reply
Summary box?
Could this encyclopedia article benefit from one of those summary data boxes many of the articles have top-right?
109.252.200.203 (
talk) 17:38, 3 March 2020 (UTC)reply
An "infobox" should really be present. Thanks.
SeoR (
talk) 14:15, 4 March 2020 (UTC)reply