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The city of Ponce was not founded by JPDLL. The city was named in his honor, to his memory. There are many references to the fact that Ponce was named in JPDLL's honor (see for example http://www.travelponce.com/Ponce-de-Leon-biography.html), but none of them could reasonably claim, that he himself founded the city. The reason for this is that he was the son of Juan Troche-Ponce de Leon (aka, Juan Ponce de Leon II), who is believed to have died in 1591. Even if Juan Ponce de Leon y Loayza was born the year his father died, that is, in 1591, Juan Ponce de Leon y Loayza would had been 101 years old to found the city of Ponce in 1692. Ponce de Leon y Loayza probably settled in what is now the Ponce region, sometime around 1600 - still a long stretch to 1692. I have thus modified your entry. Regards, Mercy11 ( talk) 01:39, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
We cannot say with certainty where Juan Ponce de Leon y Loayza married Ana de Salamanca. Some sources appear to say Spain, others appear to say Puerto Rico.
As a result of this ambiguity, I have removed the marriage location entry which, although desirable, is not essential. By the way, the recently added "Ana de Salamanca arrived from Spain" link does not seem to lead to a reference on the married in Spain matter. Regards, Mercy11 ( talk) 02:15, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
If you read Wikipedia:Verifiability#Reliable sources it says "Articles should be based upon reliable, third-party published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy." Gavin Menzies various books clearly do not have this reputation and should not be used as a source for this article. Reliability is not a default position, and in this case, where we have someone with no qualifications in history writing a book that has been heavily criticised by historians, it's clearly not something we can use here. If anyone disagrees they can take it to the Reliable Sources Noticeboard, WP:RSN, but this is a pretty clear cut case. Dougweller ( talk) 19:40, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
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The city of Ponce was not founded by JPDLL. The city was named in his honor, to his memory. There are many references to the fact that Ponce was named in JPDLL's honor (see for example http://www.travelponce.com/Ponce-de-Leon-biography.html), but none of them could reasonably claim, that he himself founded the city. The reason for this is that he was the son of Juan Troche-Ponce de Leon (aka, Juan Ponce de Leon II), who is believed to have died in 1591. Even if Juan Ponce de Leon y Loayza was born the year his father died, that is, in 1591, Juan Ponce de Leon y Loayza would had been 101 years old to found the city of Ponce in 1692. Ponce de Leon y Loayza probably settled in what is now the Ponce region, sometime around 1600 - still a long stretch to 1692. I have thus modified your entry. Regards, Mercy11 ( talk) 01:39, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
We cannot say with certainty where Juan Ponce de Leon y Loayza married Ana de Salamanca. Some sources appear to say Spain, others appear to say Puerto Rico.
As a result of this ambiguity, I have removed the marriage location entry which, although desirable, is not essential. By the way, the recently added "Ana de Salamanca arrived from Spain" link does not seem to lead to a reference on the married in Spain matter. Regards, Mercy11 ( talk) 02:15, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
If you read Wikipedia:Verifiability#Reliable sources it says "Articles should be based upon reliable, third-party published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy." Gavin Menzies various books clearly do not have this reputation and should not be used as a source for this article. Reliability is not a default position, and in this case, where we have someone with no qualifications in history writing a book that has been heavily criticised by historians, it's clearly not something we can use here. If anyone disagrees they can take it to the Reliable Sources Noticeboard, WP:RSN, but this is a pretty clear cut case. Dougweller ( talk) 19:40, 5 January 2010 (UTC)